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Sooo... just like Hulu already does it.

Yep. And some of the other network sites too.

**** advertisements.
But that is fersure Charlie from Lost in that pic :)

Charlie and Claire—I thought so too. Enough of us think so—it must be so :)

What bugs me about these sort of implementations - and you can find them on Hulu, for example - is that if you want to see a particular scene in a movie, you have to play the whole thing up to that scene.

For example, suppose you get into a discussion about a scene in a movie, and want to pull just that scene up. You can't. Annoying.

Not so, currently—you can skip to any point in the movie, you’ll just have to watch an ad (unless it’s a part you already watched—so when the movie is done you can skip anywhere with no ads). That’s my experience, anyway.

So I won't be watching that content at all.
I have no TV because I do not want the commercials.
If Apple implements this forcing commercials on other content I'll cull that content.
Hopefully there will be programs to surgically remove the commercials.

If that’s the model you support, how will the content be paid for? How will TV shows exist?

(If you’re buying shows on iTunes, fear not: Apple’s not going to charge you AND insert ads. They’re not a cable company :p )
 
Nothing say pirate or bootleg like interrupting content with ads

I hate to say it, but +1. I absolutely abhor taking content illegally, and will use any fair means to not do so (ala iTunes Store). However, these advertisements and commercials are becoming more and more intrusive as the years go on. They used to just be confined to the side bars of browser windows. Now they are so in front of your face that you can hardly find the content you were hoping to view. The same goes for these videos. I have absolutely no problem paying for content to watch...or if I want it free, to have a few advertisements. However, paying AND having advertisements is complete BS, which is one of the reasons I gave up cable.

The original poster is correct...pirating will only increase with this type of "forced advertising" model.
 
Deal Breaker For Me

Paying for video and being forced to watch ads is a deal breaker for me. Paid TV content without ads works for me.

Enough of the brain washing!!!
 
Apple patents stuff on purpose?

Just an idea,
what if Apple tries to patent this kind of junk just so they can lock it up and NEVER implement it, nor have anyone else implement it?
Like doing us all the biggest public service of not seeing those friggin ads ever, because they could, but they don't.

Chris
 
I don't mind this idea so long as the ads I view [read: leave the room to grab a snack during] pay for the content. If anyone's expecting me to pay and then forcibly view advertisements, well, there's always piracy.. :rolleyes:
 
I dont have a problem with ads if i get to watch tv shows without any fee as i understand they do have to make money from somewhere, but if i pay for it it better be ad free. Perhaps the only exception is if there was a small monthly subscription fee to have access to all the shows, sort of like a convenience fee for having all the shows in one place and being to able to watch them at your own schedule, but i would only pay that if ALL the shows i like where available.
 
Not necessarily. We have the BBC here which doesn't show advertising. I tend to avoid shows if I have to sit through adverts now. Nothing worse than getting absorbed into a show only to have meaningless trash piped through every 15 minutes.

Well, do you still pay for the TV license in the UK? I recall having to pay around 100 - 150 quid per year when I lived in England in the late 90's...

Also, BBC is run as a government institution, as I understand, using public servants as managers and taxpayers money to finance the programs.

That would explain the absence of ads on BBC.
 
Paying for video and being forced to watch ads is a deal breaker for me.

However, paying AND having advertisements is complete BS, which is one of the reasons I gave up cable.

I agree, but this patent doesn't address pricing. If advertisements show up in paid content on iTunes, I'll be just as against this as you, (unless there's a SIGNIFICANT discount). Until this gets implemented, I feel safe to assume this is in lieu of a paid model.
 
Most of us pay for cable or satellite anyway. This is just another vehicle. I would pay $10-15 for all of iTunes TV shows even if they had ads in them especially if it was on something like the Apple TV.

Everyone needs a bathroom/snack break.

It would be a heck of a lot easier than searching torrent sites or hooking up my MacBook to the TV and going to Hulu, TV.com, Comedy Central, etc. And the quality would probably be much higher also (5.1 sound, 720p HD at a constant bit rate which looks better than my over-compressed 1080i cable channels, etc)
 
Like others, this sounds fantastic to me! So long as I have the option, cheap or free with ads or paid without ads, this is ideal.

For example, I want to buy and own Lost, but free with ads is great for Myth Busters or Ice Road Truckers.

Bring it on! This option can't arrive on my Apple TV soon enough!
 
I just threw up in my mouth a little. Yeah let's patent the hell out of every single Apple implementation! Only Apple will be allowed to write software! I know Apple fanbois LOVE the US Patent Office, but that thing needs serious reform or abolishing.
 
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Heh. I wonder, after that show started, how many times that number set started getting played in Lottos all over the place. I bet if it ever hit you'd find 1000 people splitting up the huge jackpot. 50 million becomes 50 thousand. I don't think I'd play them.

Now, back to topic... For those who are complaining about all this, just don't use it. I really doubt that Apple is going to drop the current model (buy shows and movies ad-free).

I agree that the choice on :apple:TV / iTunes between paid or free (with ads) would be a good thing. I, myself, have never paid for any movie or TV show on iTunes. Probably never will. But, of the free episodes or short specials that I have grabbed, I liked the convenience. I would be willing to put up with commercials for TV shows, presuming they are placed at the network's commercial breakpoints. Hopefully you could also set up the season pass for free content, too.

As for movies, well, I don't think so. Not for anything that's new. Maybe just to re-watch old ones that I've seen several times. Then it would be no different than watching it again on TV. Maybe with shorter commercial breaks.
 
Just an idea,
what if Apple tries to patent this kind of junk just so they can lock it up and NEVER implement it, nor have anyone else implement it?
Like doing us all the biggest public service of not seeing those friggin ads ever, because they could, but they don't.

Chris

Apple has become TEH evil with help from the US Patent office and AAPL-loving judges. :confused::rolleyes:
 
Don't Worry !

Ads only concern stupid people especially in this new decade, and especially when you have to pay directly for these ads.
 
Not necessarily. We have the BBC here which doesn't show advertising. I tend to avoid shows if I have to sit through adverts now. Nothing worse than getting absorbed into a show only to have meaningless trash piped through every 15 minutes.

Yes necessarily. TV Shows including News exist to serve the ads in between, and nothing further. Precisely why the content is junk, and the news is wrong. There is no accountability for quality, because there is no concern for it. The concern, is for the ads.
 
I agree this sounds exactly like what Hulu is doing... so, I suppose the question is whether Hulu or someone else has a similar patent predating the Apple patent.

It doesn't matter. Hulu launched more than a year ago, and any invention that has existed more than a year prior to being filed can not be patented.
 
This sounds a lot like the patent that is out there to block people from skipping adds on DVR. Watching live TV is a foreign concept to me now as I DVR everything.
 
This would only make sense if it were a currently Free model like Hulu, ...<snip[> ... it damn well better be a very cheap fee. Anything major and I would want non interrupted shows.
What if Hulu isn't offered on the iPad due to Flash? Then Apple doesn't have competition for iPad users.

Ads tailor-served

To me, it makes more sense for ads to be targeted to my likes not just throwing ad after ad and nothing sticking. I think that in order to use the service, in this manner, you would have to do a fairly brief survey with the Usual Suspects: age; sex; race; interests (entertainment; business; etc). Finally, you would have to choose a predetermined numbered type of products in order to finish the survey. Then Ads would be choosen for you based on that information. If you don't fill out the survey (YOUR CHOICE) you simply get the generic ads about tampons (although you're a dude) and automobiles (although you just BOUGHT a car last year) -- Frankly, and I know this flies in the face of people and their precious "privacy" -- I don't care that Apple knows that I'm a 44-55 white male that likes technology; fast food; restaurants; cars, etc. Who cares? This describes a whole lot of middle-aged white MFers. It is no big deal.

I would rather Apple ask if I were likely to buy certain products or watch certain types of movies or tv shows then suffer through crap I have no interest in. Now, I typically just turn the volume down to intentionally miss the commercial. I also use the Universal Access Zoom feature to zoom way any to obliterate any video.

The only way I would ever get this information to Apple is if there was a major disclaimer at the beginning that said in plain English that Apple would only use this information to tailor ads to me and not sell or give the information to anyone else and especially not give them my email address in order to send me junk email.

Otherwise I wouldn't even consider this idea.

But that is fersure Charlie from Lost in that pic :)
Yeah -- so that must be Claire with the fugly teeth. These patent artists suck.

My only suggestion if Apple does this: put the commercial breaks in where the actual commercial breaks are!
I would imagine that by design, there are places that the commercials will go and you only screw yourself up with the syncing of the those spaces when you try to jump to certain scenes in order to miss the ads. I wouldn't worry to much.
 
On ads in movies: If I pay for something, I expect it to be ad free. After all, I paid for it, they already made their money. I would hate movies on the iTunes store to eventually become like cable: you pay out the nose, and still have to watch ads.

Do you pay for Cable TV?

I understand the continunity of a film, and paying $2 to rent it, or $15 to own it, but will we move from cable to Internet TV where we still pay for basically what we get from cable?

I think we will but the reason will be

1. Time Shifting is free
2. Everything is pretty much on Demand
3. Works on any computing platform
a. Home Systems
b. Portable Sytems
c. Mobile Systems
 
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