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If some people type like me, i.e. HAMMER style there will be a lot of injuries and bruised fingers.

Carpal tunnel syndrome like and Apple will say:

You are typing wrong!

and please give your heart a push Apple: numeric keyboard. Please!


Seriously though, perhaps you should change your style. There's no reason or efficiency in slamming keys as you type and it would lead to less stress on your wrists.
 
Thinner macs is a distraction for lack of innovation. No one is asking for thinner anything, it is like "the only thing they can come up with" until someone have an actual idea at Apple. But being familiarize with the corporate structure I bet there are a good amount of "Steve Jobs" who are being stepped on. As a matter of fact... was not Steve Jobs fired from Apple himself?

After the failure the Apple Watch is (a bad developed idea), Apple is doing just like Hollywood is doing with movies, play safe and do re runs instead of coming up with new ideas.

No. The keyboard technology in this story is incredibly innovative. And will lead to new classes of devices as well as smaller and lighter weight laptops. With the same battery capacity. Excellent.

"Apple is doing just like Hollywood is doing with movies, play safe and do re runs instead of coming up with new ideas."

Playing safe? You mean like force touch and haptic feedback trackpads? Or better and innovative keyboards? Just to name a couple of the most recent innovations?
 
Thinness...where will it end?

Sometimes I think Apple can't wait for the day when they can replace the the keyboard and trackpad with an iOS-enabled glass slab.

How about this: epidermal implants. :rolleyes:

Key travel is already too short in the newest Macbooks. This sounds awful.

I agree. YMMV but I hated the rMB keyboard. This does _not_ sound like an improvement...
 
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Push hard for CAPS. Push harder for BOLD CAPS.

You know what, I really dig that idea. Push the first letter of the word hard to make it a title. Like in those old-timy books with the giant letters at the beginning of a chapter.

Selecting a word and just pushing hard to make it bold, push and drag up-right for italic and push right for underline would make me happy. The current keyboard shortcuts are hard when your hands are in the typing position.

If you really think about it, the keyboard is holding us back in terms of usability. Keyboard shortcuts are hard to remember and sometimes very inconsistent.

The letter layout is terrible as it was designed so hammers don't jam when you type fast on a mechanical typewriter. Now you can type fast and auto-correct will fix most errors like swapped letters, wrong but close letter and plain old spelling errors. There's no need for a really precise keyboard. Even for programming, auto-completion works, I maybe type a tenth of the characters I want to appear on screen.

I don't think anyone misses the mechanical click on the force touch trackpads. I'm totally fine with a keyboard that is just a screen with some sort of tactile feedback and the keyboard only appearing when I need one. Only thing I can think of that could annoy me is the screen reflecting in the glass keyboard thing.
 
This. So basically it's a Mac, and not much more. I kinda feel like people have been paying more and getting less from Apple for a little while now... I will use my 2012 rMBP until the thing refuses to work. And even then, I'll pay money to have it repaired. I fear I can't get this type of quality from Apple anymore.

Ports? Who needs ports? Every port I need is here lightening (2) usb 3 (2), HDMI, SD, MAGSAFE... And what a beast it still is.

I'll remain on my 2011 17" and 2012 15" cMBPs for those reasons and because I need both real internal storage, connectivity, and the ability to switch out both the HDD/SSDs and RAM at will.

F the cloud. I feel that lately Apple is constantly moving towards a Chromebook.
 
Just add 'to me', and there's no reason for heat. :)
Personally, I find the new MacBook keyboard just fine, and I'm a 100 WPM typist.
Frankly, the better a typist you are, the less the keyboard matters after a few minutes of adjustment.

I'm a 125 WPM typist and I find it feels terrible. Can I type fast on it? yes. Is it enjoyable? No.

To me the MacBook keyboard is like using a non-Retina phone or laptop display. Sure I can get all my stuff done and be just as productive but I won't enjoy it as much, usable but not great.

And to me Apple sets the benchmark and makes great products the MacBook keyboard isn't great, it's one of the worst keyboards I've ever used, way below their competitors keyboards and it especially sucks because the MacBook Pro keyboard is really great.
 
I remember people like you saying the same thing when the PowerBook Duo came out 25 years ago.

I miss the days when our electronics had enough weight to kill small animals. Take, for example, the new 12" rMB. You throw that thing at a squirrel, and all it'll do is slightly inconvenience them.

Apple has forgotten its purpose.
 
I'm a 125 WPM typist and I find it feels terrible. Can I type fast on it? yes. Is it enjoyable? No.

To me the MacBook keyboard is like using a non-Retina phone or laptop display. Sure I can get all my stuff done and be just as productive but I won't enjoy it as much, usable but not great.

And to me Apple sets the benchmark and makes great products the MacBook keyboard isn't great, it's one of the worst keyboards I've ever used, way below their competitors keyboards and it especially sucks because the MacBook Pro keyboard is really great.
 
THINNER?!?! THEY SHOULD HAVE A BIGGER BATTERY

/s

How about a thinner keyboard so that we can have a thicker battery?

I use a surface pro 3 at work and a MacBook Pro and iMac at home. All are relatively low travel keyboards, with the SP3 having the least. Every now and then I have to use a standard desktop keyboard with a lot of travel (just a few minutes ago actually) and my error rate sky rockets as I miss keys or clip them as I move.

For me at least, some Taptic feedback and decent key separation is essential, travel is just something we get accustomed to.
 
I'm a 125 WPM typist and I find it feels terrible. Can I type fast on it? yes. Is it enjoyable? No.

To me the MacBook keyboard is like using a non-Retina phone or laptop display. Sure I can get all my stuff done and be just as productive but I won't enjoy it as much, usable but not great.

And to me Apple sets the benchmark and makes great products the MacBook keyboard isn't great, it's one of the worst keyboards I've ever used, way below their competitors keyboards and it especially sucks because the MacBook Pro keyboard is really great.
Best that I could muster on a rMBP, MBA, and your typical Windows ultrabook is 90-100WPM ~95% accuracy. Give me a mechanical desktop keyboard with ultra deep travel I might reach 110. Seems counter intuitive that the deeper the travel the faster the typing speed but it's true. The rMBP is already too shallow for my taste.. I just bought a Lenovo Thinkpad with a nice plush keyboard with deep travel. The race is on - 125WPM :p

As is usual for Apple, form over function.
 
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Guys common, in the near future we will have a thinner mac but with artificial cells into the display for recharging the battery
So, unless you are using your mac in the night with all lights off, your battery should continue recharging unless you don't heavy use it, in this case battery will drain more than charging but still i think this can last for 5-6h
 
I'm 100+ (probably not 125) and agree that the new MacBook keyboard is terrible. I'm a programmer and spellcheck doesn't really exist in my world. I would bet that I'm about 25 WPM on my MacBook - so many missed keystrokes and keystrokes that I have to visually confirm that I hit because I couldn't tell.

I love everything else about it and it would probably be my favorite computer if it weren't for that damned keyboard. Instead, I only use it on the plane every other week. Aside from that, it's my rMBP when I'm on the go and the MB stays in the bag.
 
How thin can they go?

I can already almost slit my wrists on the edge of my rMB

I see it now... Keyboard-gate! "You're typing on it wrong"

Ha you're not far from the truth though

There is a learning curve on the rMB. I don't lose speed on it, but I do type differently than a standard clunky keyboard. I tend to mash the keys on those, but on my rMB I am like a floating fairy in the twilight sky, being so effortless and tender to take caution on how I type. I feel like it's fragile and Im very gentile on it when I type.

Not a bad thing, i like it and it saves my fingers some fatigue.
 
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Interesting choice in a time when people aren't asking for thinner anymore and instead a better battery.
 
How about a thinner keyboard so that we can have a thicker battery?
That would be wonderful, but with how Apple has been going they will use a thinner keyboard to make the whole thing thinner, and if anything a smaller battery.
 
Maybe I'm in the minority but as a big guy with big hands this thinness obsession is pushing me away. It seems everything apple does now seems to push me away.
 
Everyone assumes the touchscreen should go up top like a Surface Book, but it'd be far more useful and ergonomic on the horizontal base.

The future of computing, I think, is going to be something like an iPad that can wirelessly connect to any TV or other monitor and change itself into a keyboard / trackpad / tablet / other input device that perfectly matches what the user is doing.

Ultimately the tablet is going to replace the keyboard, not the screen, of the traditional computer. And since it's trivial to connect to any screen in your house, people will find it as convenient as a remote or video game controller and stop thinking about it as something best done in a chair at a desk... it'll be something you can do lounging in a couch or bed.
 
Meanwhile, I try to perform as much of my keyboard intensive activities as I can on a mechanical keyboard. Funny how less travel is being sold as a good thing. Mechanical keyboards would be impractical on a laptop* admittedly, but still.

*I do recall reading about a laptop with a mechanical keyboard though, chunky as heck unsurprisingly.
 
Absolutely! And it will likely enable new classes of devices that many here would never dream of. While other computer companies are fine with the status quo regarding keyboards, trackpads, staid manufacturing, batteries, etc, Apple is thinking and innovating outside the box. And that will have huge payoffs going forward.

I agree, if the vision is there (which is dubious since Steve's passing). We'll see.

The problem is that Apple has a habit of making these things the only option, which puts its users in the position of "love us or leave us".
 
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