Apple Pay Express Transit Coming to London 'in the Coming Months'

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    Apple is working closely with London's transport network (TfL) to enable Apple Pay Express Transit, a feature which allows riders to pay their fare without needing to wake or unlock their device, or authenticate with Face ID, Touch ID, or a passcode.

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    "We are having positive discussions with Apple about enabling express transit on Apple devices on the TfL network," a TfL spokesperson said in a statement given to The Verge. "More information about timing and plans will be available at a future date."

    TfL's Twitter account also noted that the company is "working closely with Apple to allow the benefits of this update to be introduced on London's transport network in the coming months."

    Users of London's transport network can already use Apple Pay for ride purchases at Oyster terminals and gates, but they must first authenticate with Face ID, Touch ID, or passcode. Express Transit would change all that with its tap-and-go system, speeding up entry into subway and train stations in the process.

    Apple Pay's Express Transit mode can be used on iPhone SE, iPhone 6s, or iPhone 6s Plus or later, and Apple Watch Series 1 and 2 or later. Owners of iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, and iPhone XR can also use Express Transit in power reserve mode, which is available for up to five hours when an iPhone needs to be charged.

    Apple introduced Express Transit in iOS 12.3, which was released earlier this month. London would join a handful of cities with transit systems that support the express Apple Pay feature, including Beijing, Shanghai, Portland, and New York City (from Friday). Express Transit also works for Suica cards in Japan.

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    Great. This will be SO much more convenient and reduce the frequent bottlenecks
     
  3. rmoliv macrumors 6502a

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    In the coming months means at the end of the year at best.
     
  4. Onelifenofear macrumors regular

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    So just allowing the use of the nfc chip without authentication for tubes etc.

    So as I understand it even if the phone is dead - charge icon on screen ... you can still use this for 5 hours - that is cool
     
  5. tuckerjj macrumors member

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    Congratulations, London! Welcome to NewYork City in, er, this Friday!
     
  6. idrewuk macrumors regular

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    Can't wait. Although I use it daily, those extra seconds without any authentication will be great.
     
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    While this is good, I really am used to using face ID now and just quickly instigate it in the few steps before the barrier. As the thing stays on for about a minute there's been no issues during bottlenecks at the barriers so far.
     
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    Excellent news, certainly at Euston it'll speed up getting through the barriers. I normally see a line of people with their iPhone trying to authenticate before getting to the barrier.
     
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    The TFL contactless readers are the only ones where I feel my iPhone doesn't work as well as a regular contactless card or Lobster card. For every other payment reader e.g. in stores, the range of the iPhone Apple Pay stuff feels better and more reliable than using a contactless bank card but the opposite seems to be true for TFL card readers and I end up feeling like a lemon holding people up for a few seconds as I try to get it to read a couple of times. It's been this way for every iPhone I've had.
     
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    That’s strange? I seem to already have it enabled on my XR.
     

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    Good! Keep at it Apple, getting nearer to leaving the wallet at home.
     
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    Was the XR purchased outside of the UK? Are you running a beta?
     
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    Nope. It’s a contract phone with EE.
    On 12.3? I think
     
  16. danmart macrumors 65816

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    I see that option available in my device, too. Maybe try it next time you are there and there isn’t a queue?

    Bear in mind this may need to be enabled on both sides (phone and TfL) before it works...
     
  17. inkhorn macrumors member

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    Lines of people all taking out and re-pocketing ~£1000 iPhones to walk through a bustling 'pinch' point.

    Yeah, I can't see a problem with that... :/
     
  18. Bin Cook macrumors 6502

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    Same here. Been using the Tube a lot more recently and it is a total crapshoot whether the Oyster reader will recognise my Apple Watch or not. Don't have that issue in shops, with parking machines or even the odd trip on the semi rural bus in Surrey. As soon as the yellow Oyster reader comes into view, the Watch is useless.

    So methinks it is TFL/Network Rail, not anything inherently wrong with the Apple Watch.
     
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    ....have to agree - the TFL Oyster readers are a little hit and miss. I have to actually physically touch my S4 Apple Watch onto the reader before it gets scanned. It should at least be able to read it in close proximity without the need for a physical touch....
     
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    What is the issue you see here? People commonly walk with their phones in their hands. It's no more difficult to take your phone out than it is to take out a "dumb" card.
     
  21. Gorms macrumors 6502

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    Oh excellent. This almost certainly means NFC writing is coming in iOS13
     
  22. SteveOfTheStow macrumors member

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    It needs updates on the barriers to work on the Tube, but for now you can use your XR in Express Transit mode if you go to any of the currently supported cities.
     
  23. inkhorn macrumors member

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    Just a play on words between the British English verb 'to pinch' ('to steal'), and the noun 'pinch point' (area of congestion). Pick pocketing is commonplace in many London tube stations.
     
  24. Reason077 macrumors 68020

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    Yes, it's great news!

    But then again, I only ever use Apple Pay on TfL these days, and I'd hardly call it a bottleneck. Pre-authenticating Apple Pay with Face ID as you approach the gates / bus takes about a second and certainly beats fumbling around for a paper ticket or even an Oyster Card.

    But Express Transit, of course, will make it even more convenient yet.
     
  25. ksec macrumors 6502a

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    ROFL.

    Anyway rather than having Express Transit for PayPass and Paywave, I would much rather they have made Oyster Card into Apple Pay.
     

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