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True but much of what consumers invest in is to make their lives easier. Do you have a garage or a remote garage door? A dish washer? A washing machine and dryer? A hot water heater or alarm clock? All these things are luxury investments (when comparing us in the first world to others) that we invest in to make our lives easier.
 
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A new report out this week by Bloomberg highlights Apple's ongoing efforts to boost adoption of Apple Pay, which is said to be gaining more traction this year thanks to the launch of Apple Pay Cash, as well as a growing number of of retailers supporting the mobile wallet. Although it still struggles to surpass rival mobile wallets, analyst Gene Munster argues that Apple's real advantage lies in the fact that it's the only digital wallet with payment options for mobile apps, desktop, peer-to-peer, and in stores.

According to Munster, Apple Pay Cash's launch in December 2017 "was a big missing piece" to the Apple Pay ecosystem, and has led the company to "make up a lot of ground" with its competition in 2018.

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In total, 60 percent of United States merchants will have Apple Pay-ready equipment in their shops by the end of this year, which is an increase from three percent four years ago, when Apple Pay launched. Apple Pay already has made impressive growth in the United Kingdom, because merchants there "already accepted contactless payments and consumers were already using contactless cards," explained Crone Consulting CEO Richard Crone.

Multiple analysts believe that Apple's biggest opportunity in the mobile payments field is to increase acceptance of Apple Pay from e-commerce sites and to beef up the features of Apple Pay Cash. According to data from Crone Consulting, the number of online mobile app transactions using Apple Pay is "growing much faster" than transactions made inside retail stores. In this area, Apple Pay is used by hundreds of thousands of websites and is accepted by 85 of the top 100 global e-commerce apps. Senior managing director for Falcon Point Capital, Michael Mahoney, agreed:
As of estimates from August, 31 percent of worldwide iPhone users have used Apple Pay in some way in the last year, up from 25 percent one year ago, according to Loup Ventures data. In regards to the total number of active users making at least two transactions per month, Crone Consulting estimates that Apple has 32 million users in the U.S., compared to its total user base of around 252 million global. In terms of U.S. usage, PayPal has the most at 250 million users and Walmart Pay is just below Apple Pay at 31 million users.

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Apple Pay Cash was the highest-rated peer-to-peer payments platform on the market, according to a review by Consumer Reports. The service beat out Zelle, Square Cash, Venmo, and Facebook Messenger P2P payments, mainly due to Apple's stronger privacy and security measures. Munster pointed out that the growth of Apple's P2P platform is convincing new people to add their banks into Apple Pay (which is required for P2P iMessage payments), many of which eventually add their credit and debit cards into Wallet as well to enable the main NFC features of Apple Pay.

Apple is also continuously expanding the mobile wallet into new countries, and this week Apple Pay will launch in Belgium. Belgium-based newspaper De Tijd reports that several sources believe Apple Pay will launch in early November -- as soon as tomorrow, November 1 -- with major bank BNP Paribas Fortis supporting the launch. Next, Apple Pay is said to be "coming soon" to Saudi Arabia.

Article Link: Apple Pay 'Making Up a Lot of Ground' With Competitors Thanks to Success of Apple Pay Cash

It appears to me that the reference to Crone consulting's analysis is comparing apples and oranges. It makes reference to Apple's 32 million "active" (defined in this article as 2 uses per month) US users of Apple Pay and compares it with PayPal's 250 million "users" - dropping the reference to "active" when calling out PayPal's number. It doesn't seem logical that there are 250 million "active" users of PayPal (using at least twice per month). Any thoughts or clarification?
 
Some do. It was starting to gain traction, but there are many who fear change and swallowed the fear mongering around contactless, somehow believing that a contactless card meant that the "bad guys" would siphon money off all the contactless cards by walking past them with a high tech crime suitcase. You are, after all, talking about a country that still has $1 bills.

A few banks are starting to bring it back. I fear that there'll be a backlash again, however, but we'll see.
 
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20$ for ramen ? Marketing at Apple just lose touch with reality :D
Not for quality Ramen at a Ramen Shop, Top Ramen is cheaper sure, but not the same thing.
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I cannot stand PayPal and their tight affiliation with eBay. I have been stung before as a Seller when selling my iPhone (ripped off by a fraudster) only to have PayPal automatically deduct money or block transactions.

I hope that Apple can gain more ground here.
I have had PayPal do stuff like this to me both as a buyer and seller with no possible recourse. Really they are a rip off, but ultimately I don't see Apple Pay taking off completely since they are limited to Apple devices only. I could see Google Pay taking off, except they are almost as bad as Paypal in terms of support. Oddly enough the one that I have had work the best for sending and receiving money is Facebook. Money appears instantly.
 
I've been trying to use Apple Pay ever since the day it became available in Canada, but every time I end up just going back to using the physical cards. We've had contactless 'tap' cards here for a while... and it's just quicker.

Also... that picture... do text bubbles turn black after sending Apple Pay cash?
I haven't used Apple Pay yet but it's coming soon for Belgium so I will be happy to use it although we had NFC cards for a while as well.

For the black text thingy I think it's your money + the message you send with it.
 
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Contactless Apple Pay in stores is fun, but once we (the customer) are paying online, we (the customer) could care less whether it's Apple Pay or PayPal. PayPal works fine, has been around forever, is ubiquitous and platform and device agnostic. Almost every website shopping cart uses it as a payment option now. I can't see Apple Pay ever unsurping PayPal (or PayPal users bothering to switch).

ApplePay is an answer to Apple's problem, not the customer's.

PayPal has my card number and bank account info. Apple doesn't. That's the end of the discussion for me. The moment I can do all my on line shopping with Apple Pay, I'm closing my PayPal account.
 
I am really loooking forward to a day when we could use Apple Pay as simply as PayPal, including international money transfers.
 
A few banks are starting to bring it back. I fear that there'll be a backlash again, however, but we'll see.

There has been some scaremongering over contactless payments here in the U.K.

One concern I did agree with was cards being reported as lost/stolen; if a fraudster found said card(s) it was still possible to make a tap & pay transaction.

Think it was around a year ago Visa/MasterCard/American Express made a change to the system so they are now processed online to try and combat it.

Nothing is ever 100% secure but I prefer using Apple Pay given the tokenistation etc-it’s just a shame more retailers aren’t >£30 for it and the lack of Apple Pay Cash rollout is another minor irk.
 
Do US banks not have contactless cards? Most retailers in the UK had contactless already when apple pay came along so it wasn't really anything new.
Same in Belgium.
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I haven't used Apple Pay yet but it's coming soon for Belgium so I will be happy to use it although we had NFC cards for a while as well.

For the black text thingy I think it's your money + the message you send with it.
According to the news it should be tomorrow. But as you know it’s a holiday. We’ll see.
 
I use Apple Pay as much as I possibly can, in person and online. Probably about 80% of my in person sales are done via Apple Pay (I live in SoCal, USA), and any time it’s available online, I use it.

Apple Pay Cash, however, is super slow to catch on with my circle, which is incredibly frustrating! I’m 45, so most of us have been using PayPal for ~20 years, and that’s a hard habit for a lot of them to break. I, however, would drop PayPal like a hot potato if possible.

There are always two sides of the medal. In this case Apple's fees which hurt the banks, the amount multiplies tremendously year over year across all customer payments.

The fees hurt, but not as much as a hack. They need to get over themselves.

Also... that picture... do text bubbles turn black after sending Apple Pay cash?
Apple Pay Cash transactions and messages are always black, I assume to distinguish them from typical iMessages.
 
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I've been using Venmo between friends due to wider support. The only way I'd ever use Apple Pay between friends is if Apple supported non-Apple users which is basically never.

Also for Apple Pay in stores, the conversation starts with "Do you support Apple Pay?" The answer is usually "No", so I have to take out my credit card. I have a thin wallet, so it's not a problem. I feel the claim of support for Apple Pay is overblown, and it's really not that widespread.
 
Also for Apple Pay in stores, the conversation starts with "Do you support Apple Pay?" The answer is usually "No", so I have to take out my credit card. I have a thin wallet, so it's not a problem. I feel the claim of support for Apple Pay is overblown, and it's really not that widespread.
You’re doing it wrong™️

No, seriously, don’t ask, just look for the contactless sign, which looks like a sideways WiFi signal, and if you see it, use Apple Pay.

I’ve used Apple Pay since it was first available, and I learned early on that too many cashiers have no idea that their terminals can use it until people start. Also, if they do, they might know it as “contactless payment,” “NFC payment,” “Apple Pay,” or “Google Pay.” Years later, that’s still the case!

Don’t bother using the words, just use the gesture.

And I don’t know where you live, so it may or may not be less available for you, but I guarantee it’s not nowhere.
 
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I've been trying to use Apple Pay ever since the day it became available in Canada, but every time I end up just going back to using the physical cards. We've had contactless 'tap' cards here for a while... and it's just quicker.

Also... that picture... do text bubbles turn black after sending Apple Pay cash?

Odd, in my area, I use it about 80-90% of the time. The other times are when the transaction exceeds 100$ or at mom and pop shops that haven't updated their terminal, where I pay cash anyways, to be nice.

Oh, and the odd time that I must to buy something at Walmart.

Heck, restaurants in my area that deliver now have the portable terminal that supports tap, so I use my phone or watch.
 
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I’ll post this email I just sent to Tim Cook yesterday as it relates to Apple Pay Cash and Family Sharing...

Good morning Tim,

As I sit here planning out our family vacation to Disney in a couple days I’m pondering why exactly I can’t setup Apple Pay Cash cards on my 9 and 11 year olds iPhones. Both our daughters now use iPhones on a daily basis to keep track of their lives, with limits of course; however I’m just now finding out that I can’t introduce them to financial responsibility via Apple Pay because it’s limited to users 18 years and older. That’s a HUGE shortcoming on Apple’s part in my opinion.

Let me give you just one use case... Disney World takes Apple Pay at literally every payment location within their parks and as we know kids in Disney are always bothering their parents for money to purchase things. Both our kids have iPhones and if I could setup an Apple Pay Cash card on each of their phones I could simply send them $20 each and help them learn financial responsibility in real time via them using their iPhones to pay for things via Apple Pay. It would be incredibly better then the current “nonsimilar” option which would be to get them prepaid debit cards from a company like FamZoo, which mind you still wouldn’t even integrate with Apple Pay because Apple won’t allow a child iCloud account to add a credit card to Apple wallet. Not to mention a prepaid debit card has monthly fees and can’t be setup on the fly... you have to sign up and wait for the cards to come in the mail, etc.

Honestly, I could turn this email into a really long business proposition, but I’m just looking for some answers for now... has Apple ever thought of updating family sharing to allow child members to have Apple Pay Cash cards setup that are directly managed via their parents? If so, why isn’t it implemented yet?

Thanks for your time!

Michael

Sent from my iPhone
 
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Contactless Apple Pay in stores is fun, but once we (the customer) are paying online, we (the customer) could care less whether it's Apple Pay or PayPal. PayPal works fine, has been around forever, is ubiquitous and platform and device agnostic. Almost every website shopping cart uses it as a payment option now. I can't see Apple Pay ever unsurping PayPal (or PayPal users bothering to switch).

ApplePay is an answer to Apple's problem, not the customer's.
Applepay is the answer to my problem. I don’t use PayPal and it isn’t fine for me. It’s a credit card or Apple Pay. I (the customer) do care about how the money is transacted.
 
why the heck isn't this in Canada yet
What?? Apple\Google\Samsung Pay are all available in Canada (unless you live in the Arctic I suppose!)
I use Google Pay everywhere I shop (that has Tap capabilities without issue). When I enter a shop Google will even tell me if that location has Google Pay!!
 



A new report out this week by Bloomberg highlights Apple's ongoing efforts to boost adoption of Apple Pay, which is said to be gaining more traction this year thanks to the launch of Apple Pay Cash, as well as a growing number of of retailers supporting the mobile wallet. Although it still struggles to surpass rival mobile wallets, analyst Gene Munster argues that Apple's real advantage lies in the fact that it's the only digital wallet with payment options for mobile apps, desktop, peer-to-peer, and in stores.

According to Munster, Apple Pay Cash's launch in December 2017 "was a big missing piece" to the Apple Pay ecosystem, and has led the company to "make up a lot of ground" with its competition in 2018.

apple-pay-cash-1.jpg

In total, 60 percent of United States merchants will have Apple Pay-ready equipment in their shops by the end of this year, which is an increase from three percent four years ago, when Apple Pay launched. Apple Pay already has made impressive growth in the United Kingdom, because merchants there "already accepted contactless payments and consumers were already using contactless cards," explained Crone Consulting CEO Richard Crone.

Multiple analysts believe that Apple's biggest opportunity in the mobile payments field is to increase acceptance of Apple Pay from e-commerce sites and to beef up the features of Apple Pay Cash. According to data from Crone Consulting, the number of online mobile app transactions using Apple Pay is "growing much faster" than transactions made inside retail stores. In this area, Apple Pay is used by hundreds of thousands of websites and is accepted by 85 of the top 100 global e-commerce apps. Senior managing director for Falcon Point Capital, Michael Mahoney, agreed:
As of estimates from August, 31 percent of worldwide iPhone users have used Apple Pay in some way in the last year, up from 25 percent one year ago, according to Loup Ventures data. In regards to the total number of active users making at least two transactions per month, Crone Consulting estimates that Apple has 32 million users in the U.S., compared to its total user base of around 252 million global. In terms of U.S. usage, PayPal has the most at 250 million users and Walmart Pay is just below Apple Pay at 31 million users.

apple-pay-vs-rivals-bloomberg.jpg

Apple Pay Cash was the highest-rated peer-to-peer payments platform on the market, according to a review by Consumer Reports. The service beat out Zelle, Square Cash, Venmo, and Facebook Messenger P2P payments, mainly due to Apple's stronger privacy and security measures. Munster pointed out that the growth of Apple's P2P platform is convincing new people to add their banks into Apple Pay (which is required for P2P iMessage payments), many of which eventually add their credit and debit cards into Wallet as well to enable the main NFC features of Apple Pay.

Apple is also continuously expanding the mobile wallet into new countries, and this week Apple Pay will launch in Belgium. Belgium-based newspaper De Tijd reports that several sources believe Apple Pay will launch in early November -- as soon as tomorrow, November 1 -- with major bank BNP Paribas Fortis supporting the launch. Next, Apple Pay is said to be "coming soon" to Saudi Arabia.

Article Link: Apple Pay 'Making Up a Lot of Ground' With Competitors Thanks to Success of Apple Pay Cash





What a missed opportunity to give Naruto a plug.......
 
Apple Cash is missing for me for some reason. Shows up for the wife tho. Seems like a buggy system. And when it comes to bugs and money, should be avoided.
 
I disagree. It's about simplicity for the customer. Apple Pay is far simpler in many cases. In-store, it's easier to quick tap our watch or phone to pay when compared to taking out the wallet, removing a credit card and inserting it into a chip-reader, then dealing with the prompts, etc.

Online, Apple Pay is also generally easier that PayPal. With Apple Pay, you simply click the phone button and you're done (or the TouchID on your MBP or MBA). No need to be redirected to the PayPal site, sign, click the confirmations, and be redirected back to the retailer website.

It's a far more seamless experience and one that can be done with far greater ease using Apple Pay.

Exactly. If I get the option to use Apple Pay or Paypal, I would usually go for Apple Pay because more often than not, Paypal would ask you to login again and send you an annoying receipt via email.
 
I linked my PayPal cash debit card to my Apple Pay. So would that be recorded as using Apple Pay or PayPal?
 
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