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Drop in the bucket. That settlement is nothing compared to the loss of performance we suffered through, knowing our devices should have been providing services at the agreed upon level which is, no less than 100%. I have seen Apple putting little bits of info out there recently pushed to our devices hinting at throttling activities to “enhance performance”. Only Apple could get away with telling its customers, we are limiting your Device’s performance to improve it.
 
Frankly, only someone totally paranoid and devoid of any understanding of technology could have seen a strategy by Apple for planned obsolescence, especially when the effect and intent were clearly the opposite of that. Stupidity has won the day yet again. Apple should not have had to pay for this, but I guess a few millions and no admission of wrong doing was still better than dragging this ridiculous thing any longer.
 
I opposed this lawsuit from the start and did not file a claim. I should have and blown it on some high margin item to give Apple the money back.

Who would have ever thought that a free update would end up costing a company money. Apple is the first company to ever give away version updates and the company that forced others to do it. Of course Apple one-upped them by offering multiple version updates.

I'd require a waiver for updates before installing them.
 
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Get out of here. You telling me an avg person can't understand, hey we are slowly down your phone on purpose to save the battery. You don't have to upgrade to a new phone because it's slow now.
First of all, the choice was between having the phone suddenly shut down on the user or having very slightly reduced peak performance. It is stupid to assume anyone would have preferred their phone to be unusable rather than ever so slightly slower. And on top of that, these phones continuously adjust the cpu clock speed and related energy drain dynamically. That's part of how they get good battery run time in the first place. The "slowdown" only made sure that the peak energy consumption of the cpu remained within what the aged battery could provide. It was not a general slowdown of the phone. So no, Apple did nothing nefarious.
 
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First of all, the choice was between having the phone suddenly shut down on the user or having very slightly reduced peak performance. It is stupid to assume anyone would have preferred their phone to be unusable rather than ever so slightly slower. And on top of that, these phones continuously adjust the cpu clock speed and related energy drain dynamically. That's part of how they get good battery run time in the first place. The "slowdown" only made sure that the peak energy consumption of the cpu remained within what the aged battery could provide. It was not a general slowdown of the phone. So no, Apple did nothing nefarious.
It's not about the pretended reason. It's about not explaining the update would do that and the lack of transparency. The throttle was so rough that it made some iphones nearly unuseable.
You don't know what was the real reason they did that, it might just be for both preventing shutdowns and make people change their phones (instead of telling them that it was just a matter of a battery swap)
 
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I don't know or care what it should be. It's for the courts to decide and it would seem that's happened.

I was just saying the amount shouldn't be a percentage of their income as some one else seemed to be implying. That's not how we run things. No one should have to pay more for the same crime just because they can afford to pay more.
To be clear this is an out of court settlement, the courts have decided nothing of it. Apple just chose to pay some amount to make it go early rather than drag this for years before the courts.
 
It's not about the pretended reason. It's about not explaining the update would do that and the lack of transparency. The throttle was so rough that it made some iphones nearly unuseable.
You don't know what was the real reason they did that, it might just be for both preventing shutdowns and make people change their phones (instead of telling them that it was just a matter of a battery swap)
Well this is untrue.
 
... While Apple said that it implemented the feature to make sure iPhones lasted as long as possible even as the battery began to fail, customers and regulators saw it as evidence of planned obsolescence. ...

To be clear, not all customers necessarily assumed that Apple's move equated to a premeditated planned obsolescence tactic. Actually, I would suggest that whichever engineer happened to implement this measure thought very little about marketing motives... and really, they just wanted their own phone (or their kid's phone, or their spouse's phone, etc.) to stop shutting down on them. It just feels a lot more like an Occam's Razor kind of explanation to me.
 
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To be clear, not all customers necessarily assumed that Apple's move equated to a premeditated planned obsolescence tactic. Actually, I would suggest that whichever engineer happened to implement this measure thought very little about marketing motives... and really, they just wanted their own phone (or their kid's phone, or their spouse's phone, etc.) to stop shutting down on them. It just feels a lot more like an Occam's Razor kind of explanation to me.
Come on. Do you really think this is only decided by engineers? The finance guys need to approve their every move+

I would love to see your source.
Yes this is what I asked

I bet you must be talking about the "unuseable". It means not usuable as it used to. Laggy to the point is was a pain to use and that the need for a new phone would arise. I personally experienced it with my iphone 6S and 8+. Friends and family noticed it too, some of them had a strong throttle. And there was no Battery menu in the settings app letting you know the battery capacity.
 
Well, if it was so dumb, why didn't Apple go to trial rather than settle? I guess Apple is just dumb by your logic.
Anyone with a modicum of knowledge of Law will tell you that the PR costs and general attorney expenditures over years of dragging a case like this through the courts far outweigh the price paid to settle early out of courts. The fact that the parties suing Apple agreed to settle also indicate that they knew they wouldn't get more by going to trial. Apple is far from dumb. There is no admission of guilt, only the cost of doing business in the overly litigious USA.
 
They certainly get their share, but is it really most that they would get, or even the majority?
Haven't read the settlement, but it is sadly common for lawyers to get most of the settlement money, either directly or because unclaimed settlement money revert to them.
 
Yes this is what I asked

I bet you must be talking about the "unuseable". It means not usuable as it used to. Laggy to the point is was a pain to use and that the need for a new phone would arise. I personally experienced it with my iphone 6S and 8+. Friends and family noticed it too, some of them had a strong throttle. And there was no Battery menu in the settings app letting you know the battery capacity

Being a pain to use is not unusable. Nor is it nearly unusable. It doesn't matter how many people said 'this feels slower'. We all agree it was slower. The only question that matters is 'does the device still function. If you can make a call or launch apps than it works. How long it takes was irrelevant. But the issue is that it barely caused it to get slower. It wasn't so slow that you could leave and go to work and come back to find it still loading.

Show me a source, besides your friends, where it became unusable.
 
Come on. Do you really think this is only decided by engineers? The finance guys need to approve their every move+
Actually, I do kind'a think that, especially in this kind of scenario. I would suggest that the finance guys don't know or care about the vast majority of what happens in the bug fix stages of a product lifecycle; they're focused on marketing the next product, and almost certainly couldn't care less what software engineers do with respect to previous products -- so long as some amazing new whiz-bang features are reserved as exclusives for that next great thing.
 
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It's not about the pretended reason. It's about not explaining the update would do that and the lack of transparency. The throttle was so rough that it made some iphones nearly unuseable.
You don't know what was the real reason they did that, it might just be for both preventing shutdowns and make people change their phones (instead of telling them that it was just a matter of a battery swap)
It's only a "pretended" reason if you don't understand the technology and you wear a tin foil hat at home. Second, yes I do know why they did it, because it's clear what they did. It was either letting old phones "randomly" shut down on the user or having slightly reduced peak energy consumption and thus performance. If you think someone would be less likely to upgrade a phone that is seemingly malfunctioning than a phone barely getting slower, you are delusional. And finally, no, this change could not have made phones nearly unusable. We're talking insignificant percentage points speed impact on demanding tasks, it's not even a general slowdown. You've read too much FUD and nonsense.
 
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Frivolous. If they only messaged it better out of the gate, this would have been viewed as a good thing.
No, the initial problem was the trash batteries they put in these phones, then doubling down on hiding it proved their guilt. I updated to iOS whatever-it-was and immediately saw such bad keyboard lag that I couldn't type.

The $30 battery replacements should've been free. I'd have been happy with that. The settlement was weird; the site kept saying my serial number didn't match, and the alternative was to give them tons of info on the phone that I didn't have. All for $25 years after the fact, not even enough to have covered the battery replacement back then.
 
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