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Apple Paying $113 Million to Settle U.S. iPhone Throttling Investigation
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The iPhone 6 with the iOS throttling update is the only time I've said Apple has scammed me. I stopped buying new iPhones after that.
If I update my OS, it should not throttle my CPU significantly without my knowledge and without any way to revert it. Blatant.
I respect your beliefs but still I think that when an update has the potential to make millions of customer upgrade, they still have the final word
I'll put it this way, it sucked so bad that I stopped using my phone at all until they undid it. Turns out having a phone was less important than I thought. Thanks for the lesson, Apple!
$13 million will go to the people, $100 million will go to the law offices of Schlomo, Schlomo, and Schlomo.
At least you stopped buying new iPhones. I respect that more than sticking with it while complaining relentlessly.
Still, I think you were misled by the hype around this. Your performance is managed for any number of reasons, this just happened to be a new approach that got a ton of uninformed attention.
A small fraction of units lost a small fraction of peak benchmark performance meaning that a small fraction of units couldn't perform the highest intensity operations quite as quickly while still being able to perform most tasks without degradation and all tasks without resetting.
I'd argue much more firmly that sudden resets make a phone more unusable than a reduction in Geekbench performance from 2500 to 1750...
Most users are simply too dumb to understand it even if Apple would try to force them into class to teach them the basic understanding of technology to be able to comprehend it. They're users, who don't (need to) understand it. But the lawmakers and judicial system should learn to listen to those few who do understand technology before they accuse companies of doing the wrong thing - esp. if they are doing the right thing - despite a bunch of youtube hype trash talk that might look intelligent to the uninitiated, but really is just footage of self-important talking heads saying nothing intelligent in the end in order to promote themselves.
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Usually I disagree with comments such as this. However, I was working in a store and I know I sold a ton of iPhone 8’s to replace 6 and 7s. Oddly enough most of those customers had similar performance complaints
My point is simple: What they earned last year shouldn't factor into what they owe. That's the only point I was ever trying to make. I don't care about the rest.
You think finance is involved in feature selection for point releases? Do you have anything at all to support this fantasy?
1 unit? That is a plot of the distribution of Geekbench4 scores for iPhone 6s before and after the update.
The main issue in question with all of this wasn't so much about what Apple did, but more about how they communicated it and handled it until it was actually brought to light and how that affected what a variety of consumers ended up doing with their devices.
For someone demanding sources, you’re relying a lot on your uninformed opinions to drive your side of the discussion.
I might argue that, assuming the finance department somehow got it in their head that needlessly slowing down their customers devices made long term financial sense, and assuming that they secretly pull the strings of the engineering organization, they might have argued instead that it was more financially advantageous to simply under optimize the entire OS for older devices rather than building a great OS and selectively slowing down the small fraction of devices that were already most at risk of spurious reset and thus were likely replacement candidates anyway.
I think it says a lot that the Arizona AG says he pursued this case to “send a message to the Googles of the world”. Wait, wut?
Uninformed populism much?
Yes, a lot of things impact performance, but this was an unprecedented huge drop. It made the phone so painful to use that I realized I didn't need it, which is part of why I stopped buying new ones, not so much because I'm trying to stick it to em. Though the bad experience definitely made me less excited about new iPhones.
Thanks for recognizing it. I don't like when people complain and buy anyway either. Kinda self-disproving.
My point was that Apple is obligated to explain how they conserve battery as much as they are obligated to explain how iMessage works.
Completely disagree. The only reason I upgraded from my iPhone 6 to the X was because my 6 was way too slow. Finding out it was slowed on purpose was infuriating. My "completely degraded" iPhone X battery still lasts a whole day. So now, after this lawsuit, I have a speedy phone and I get to decide when I upgrade. Seems like exactly what lawsuits are for.
This seems so pointless and greedy by Apple customers. Apple is trying to make their devices work for a bit longer and this is how they’re rewarded? ‘Murica! 😒
It had caused people like me to upgrade our phones sooner than desired. I actually upgraded to the iPhone X thinking my phone wasn’t good enough running the new iOS. Had I known I could just replace the battery, it could have been a different story
If Apple had said, “we are dialing your phone down because of battery concerns” BEFORE the debacle (even thru sites like Macrumors), most people would appreciate the transparency instead of finding out AFTER that the phone had been dialed down.
