The question is, how many illustrators, designers, artists, etc WILL draw on their iPad on a regular basis now that there's a stylus like this.
That alone will sell a ton of iPad Pros and Pencils.
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The question is, how many illustrators, designers, artists, etc WILL draw on their iPad on a regular basis now that there's a stylus like this.
That alone will sell a ton of iPad Pros and Pencils.
Perhaps that's you would do it. Other's would plug it into a Lightening extension cable. Plenty of those out there.
You can draw and write. I'm getting one of these for school. It will replace my notebooks since I can type and write as well as view my books.
I'm too lazy to see if this was said already, but Steve Jobs' quote can still remain true. When the iPhone was introduced, there were no drawing apps and no other general UX need that would require a stylus. I believe for normal use that quote is 100% true. But for drawing (and those who prefer hand writing notes) then the stylus is the better UX. I don't think Jobs meant that there's no use for a stylus. I believe he meant as the main input method and general use of a device. And I'd agree with that, it makes no sense when your finger is way more convenient and always with you.
So in conclusion, they aren't changing their stance. There's no back peddling here. It's the use cases of general input vs something like drawing/painting/handwriting. And they certainly didn't make Apple Pencil the main input method of the iPad Pro. It's for drawing.
So in conclusion, they aren't changing their stance. There's no back peddling here. It's the use cases of general input vs something like drawing/painting/handwriting. And they certainly didn't make Apple Pencil the main input method of the iPad Pro. It's for drawing.
Or it could simply mean that not including it would stop the people that don't want it from complaining that they are paying for something they don't need or will ever use.
Article from cultofmac praising the performance on an Apple accessory. You don't say!
People that use these tools for their livelihood won't care as much about the nickel and dime add-ons as they will be making money to pay it all back or write if off on their taxes.
Except her points are valid. The stylus for my Cintiq is annoying as hell, I have to crane my neck at times to see around the flare on the barrel.
Also, even after calibration, the color accuracy on most Cintiqs are not the best.
With that said, I'm cautiously optimistic about the iPad Pro/Apple Pencil combo at the moment, but I'm not going to rush right out until I see reviews from artists and graphic designers.
To be fair, the pen for my Cintiq is $80, and it's a passive stylus.
Not likely. I re-watched the presentation, and they said something about special sensors in the iPad Pro. I doubt the Pencil will work on a device that doesn't have these sensors.
A more interesting question is what other Apple devices will get this support in the future. I think it's logical to assume that future versions of the smaller iPads will. iPhones and iPod Touches would be nice, but I'm not expecting that.
Not a majority, but quite a lot. And they will definitely appreciate this device.
I just watched that video. As with everything else, context is key.
The first Jobs quote in the video was talking about handwriting recognition. I remember that interview. It was justifying the use on an on-screen keyboard instead of handwriting (e.g. Apple Newton and Windows tablets from that time) or gesture-scripts (PalmOS and Pocket PC). He was pointing out that you need a stylus for these input methods, but a virtual keyboard doesn't.
The second quote was talking specifically about Tablet PCs of the day and the Pen technology in Windows - which could not be operated without a stylus (or a mouse, I suppose). I used them. They sucked. That's why they didn't sell many of them.
In all cases, he was describing the basic functionality of the OS. The Apple Pencil is a specialized input device and is not at all required for basic OS functionality.
They won't pay $100 for a metal tube with rubber on the end, like all of the styli sold for other touchscreen devices. But the Apple Pencil is a precision input device. It's easily worth $100. A graphic tablet with similar capabilities can easily cost that much.
If I remember the presentation correctly, the pressure sensors for the screen are global. That is, they measure overall force, not force at a single point. If you want to distinguish the pencil's force from your fingers' force (remember, you can use both at once - the video even showed that) then you need something beyond what it uses to detect finger pressure.
I know of some graphic tablets that power the stylus/puck from the pad. Yes, they put an antenna coil in the stylus/puck, which gets energy from a field generated by the tablet, in much the same way RFID/NFC tech works.
I think that is a great idea for a device that can draw power from a host computer or has a power brick like a Wacom tablet. I think it may not be a good idea for an iPad. Maintaining the field for powering the pencil is going to be a drain on your battery.[/QUOTE]
If the size of a pencil is "giant" compared to what you are used to, then I think it is safe to say that you are in the minuscule minority.
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No, you don't have to give them credit. The problem of having to recharge your stylus has been resolved decades ago. Everyone is used to Wacoms without batteries. This is a step back.
Beyond the obvious utility for artists, I think this shows promise for many academics and business folks as well.
Imagine a lecturer in mathematics or chemistry. They can draw chemical formula and mathematical equations, freehand on an iPad pro, while talking at their lectern and have it projected onto the wall in real time (perhaps also requiring an iTV attached to the projector?). This would replace the old draw on the clear plastic mylar sheets with ugly markers with a hot lamp projector thing. All with the added benefit of producing a digital copy that could be posted to the course webpage for later downloads. Same goes for business. I think it could be great but will likely roll out slowly to universities and the like given the upfront costs (iPad Pro, Pencil, AppleTV) and technical resistance of many IT folks for apple products.
Imagine a lecturer in mathematics or chemistry. They can draw chemical formula and mathematical equations, freehand on an iPad pro, while talking at their lectern and have it projected onto the wall in real time (perhaps also requiring an iTV attached to the projector?). This would replace the old draw on the clear plastic mylar sheets with ugly markers with a hot lamp projector thing. All with the added benefit of producing a digital copy that could be posted to the course webpage for later downloads. Same goes for business. I think it could be great but will likely roll out slowly to universities and the like given the upfront costs (iPad Pro, Pencil, AppleTV) and technical resistance of many IT folks for apple products.
Got hurt at work few years ago. In wheelchair now. Anyway long story short I can't move fingers so I use a rubber tip stylus that fits in a strap that's around my hand. Never used a Bluetooth stylus but I know it only works with apps that support it. Was wondering if I'd b able to use the apple pencil universally or does it require built in app support?
Maybe so, but at least it's nice to hear *something* about the product and its capabilities while everyone is throwing around opinions having never even used it.
What's going to end up happening is no one is ever going to charge it. Oh snap it's dead! 15 seconds later- i'm charged up!
No, it's not.
Then post here why the others are a better buy.
With no CPU, no GPU, not even close to 5.1 million pixels IPS screen, not 10 hour battery, can't work on the couch.
Emm... Where is my pencil cap???
I am sure there are several Kickstarters and Indiegogos in planning for this.
Think colors and cartoon icon tops, fancy overpriced blinged up ones.
This will happen.
I could see a scenario where the iPadPro could be used as a tablet (obviously expensive) as one of its uses.
Watch the Keynote and you will understand. And please don't tell me you believe that if it can work up to 30 minutes on a 15 sec charge that you think the iPadPro will run 30 minutes less. The impact would be negligible.
to me Apple Pen it too generic. Isn't there an S Pen that Samsung uses.
Pencil feels more like its for artistic purposes to me. Slightly different feel I would guess.
Or be amused or disgusted by the people who distort what Steve Jobs said in order to be right....
The poster you commented on was correct regarding what Apple was talking about in terms of a stylus and the iPhone.
Watch the Keynote and you will understand. And please don't tell me you believe that if it can work up to 30 minutes on a 15 sec charge that you think the iPadPro will run 30 minutes less. The impact would be negligible.
to me Apple Pen it too generic. Isn't there an S Pen that Samsung uses.
Pencil feels more like its for artistic purposes to me. Slightly different feel I would guess.
Or be amused or disgusted by the people who distort what Steve Jobs said in order to be right....
The poster you commented on was correct regarding what Apple was talking about in terms of a stylus and the iPhone.
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Its looking pretty slick. However, not having a rocker-switch (or buttons of any kind) will limit the pencil's usage. Especially for 3D applications. It will be interesting to see how/if developers can work around this disappointing (but not unexpected... it is Apple after all) short-coming.
Good palm-rejection is crucial and has a big impact on how pleasant this stylus will be to use, especially for longer drawing sessions and/or fine and precise work.
Good palm-rejection is crucial and has a big impact on how pleasant this stylus will be to use, especially for longer drawing sessions and/or fine and precise work.
I bet it takes literally a half percent of iPad battery to charge this stylus fully. Should be a non-issue.