3D Touch is more like right clicking.
If the day comes where you can create an amazing illustration by simply pressing into the screen, I'll paypal you a million bucks.
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Apple Pencil Offers High Precision and Low Latency, Gains 30 Minutes of Use From 15-Second Charge
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3D Touch is more like right clicking.
If the day comes where you can create an amazing illustration by simply pressing into the screen, I'll paypal you a million bucks.
profit margins
yes the pen SHOULD come with the device, this is the equivalent of Samsung charging for the pen separately with the Note or Tab devices
I was thinking the same thing. But 15s for 30m charge is pretty damn good. I was thinking that the pen would have a female connector and then you can just use a cable to charge in no time, but at the same time if you are not near an outlet you are kind of screwed (an external battery would remedy this issue though).
It will only work for the iPad Pro.
There's only a certain degree that you can get from screen pressure sensitivity. To get higher levels you need the stylus to have sensors too.
Takes processing power to take in the inputs from the pen and then keep up with what's happening in near real-time. That's why you need the iPad Pros power.
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Although I agree with you,I think most people that are paying 1000.00 for the iPad pro will think "what's another 100.00 for the pencil?"
I'm looking into the 32gb pro and there's no way I'd get it without the pencil.
I'm totally guessing though
Which is why this feels like a stop gap, until the sensitivity of 3D Touch catches up to that point. And the profit margin of adding 3D Touch to iPad tablets falls within Apple's preferred range.
If it's that much stress and hardship for you, there are several nice (though not Pencil-first-party-functional) styluses on the market, some with even fairly small tips... Not perfect but certainly better for someone forced into finger painting and using lots of exclamation points
LOL(!) I have several Wacoms and have tried most iPad pens on the market and none of them compare to the Wacoms, so I am very hopeful that Apple has scored a hit with their Apple Pencil. Can't wait to try!!!
Only a small portion of the people buying the Pro will have a need for the Pencil. Why increase the cost to everyone for something that only a small percentage need.
This isn't comparable to the pen that you get with the Surface. They're not even in the same ballpark.
Funny thing is,I remember everyone ready to burn apple to the ground for switching to the lighting connector.
And now look,a few short years and not a peep. Can you imagine a Apple pencil with a 30 pin connector at the top of it? LOL!
Clearly these guys know what they're doing.
And now look,a few short years and not a peep. Can you imagine a Apple pencil with a 30 pin connector at the top of it? LOL!
Clearly these guys know what they're doing.
I gotta say, this is probably one of the more under appreciated technology announcements on Wednesday. It looks like a well designed device. The 15 second quick charge is a really nice touch.
In Apple's defense on the "no-stylus" move-- there's a difference between a screen the size of iPhone1 and iPad Pro. There's also a huge difference in what applications the stylus on the old PDAs was driving of doing and what this one is.
In Apple's defense on the "no-stylus" move-- there's a difference between a screen the size of iPhone1 and iPad Pro. There's also a huge difference in what applications the stylus on the old PDAs was driving of doing and what this one is.
I'm pretty sure they said that they changed the way the iPad scans the touch surface in order to make the Pencil more responsive. I don't think it's a CPU difference, I think it's a support hardware difference...
You're intermixing two completely different sensors. You're thinking of the display panel that refreshes at 60Hz, all iOS devices had 60Hz, there has never been a 30Hz panel before until now with iPad Pro in order to save energy for when you're reading and don't need the speed. This has nothing to do with touch input.
The one you meant to talk about is the touch input sampling sensor, which operates on top of the panel. iPad Air 2 had a 120Hz touch sampling sensor and iPad Pro now has 240Hz. Before iPad Air 2, they all had 60hz sampling rate sensors. The reason the touch input lags a bit behind was because at 60Hz rate between the display panel and the touch sensor, there is not enough data to catch up in real time. With 240Hz, it is faster than the display panel, giving Apple enough time to predict the movement of the next input before the next refresh, making it smoother and doesn't lag as much.
You can learn more about this from Apple's WWDC 2015 session entitled: Advanced Touch Input on iOS.
Exactly. It runs the screen at a different rate when the Pencil is in use. The other iPads can't do the same.
They also don't have to processing power to keep up with what's happening.
I'm sure the jailbreak community will hack it to make it work but it won't be pretty.
I think it's because if you make a mistake with a pencil you can simply erase it. Just going by Logic. With a pen, not so much or even at all.
Exactly! And not to mention the Apple Pencil is sold separately. As a designer, visual artist, sketcher, etc, this will be sooo perfect for what I can do on an iPad especially with the larger area of the screen. And battery powered will make it so it can detect palm rejection, etc. Not all will use this pencil if they are not the artist in mind so, don't get it. The iPad Pro is really for those heavy duty power user that are in an industry producing works of art to get paid and hobby artists. Trust me all my apple products that "WORK" to keep me productive has made me 100's of thousands of dollars. So the cost of getting more powerful Apple product that just works is worth it. For those who are just into reading, browsing, watching movies, and few games, the lesser cheaper iPads and/or apple fans will find a way to buy a premium apple product. But I'm a big time Apple fan and love it. Since 1980's.
I'm asking without having double checked, but aren't the pressure styluses on those devices powered by the tablet? They act like little antennas, don't they?
In 5 years I think this is the most obscenely ignorant post I've ever read
Yes, thanks for correcting me. I remember going to this session at WWDC and this is where they discussed a new API that allows you to use software to predict where the touch event was heading. I did confuse the two refresh rates but it makes complete sense now. Thanks!
I'll be incrementally getting them...
iPadPro 128GB, then
Keyboard, then
Pencil, then
iPadPro 2
People comparing this to Steve Jobs and his dislike of a stylus are looking at it completely wrong. Steve was against a stylus for use with every simple task on a phone such as typing or opening up an app. When he made those comments touch screen phones were all using a stylus for everything due to their cheap plastic force touch screens. The Apple Pencil is aimed at a specific use of drawing and is in no way meant to replace using a finger as your primary method of input.
Well I agree it is a lot of money but there has been a great deal of people making a public stance for a stylus on the iPad. 3rd party companies are taking advantage of this so Apple doesn't want lose the opportunity. I'm sure after many people review it they will see the price justification....at least somewhat.
Kind of a low effort article - not MR's fault though, information is scarce. I wish we knew more about this product, we only have such limited hands on experiences and in typical form, mainstream tech journalists are terrible at conveying any relevant information on stylus performance. I want to know how accurate the device is and whether the Apple promotional video is representative of the quality we can expect. If it is, I'm very very excited and despite my reservations about picking up another gen 1 Apple product, I've been wanting this for so long it will be hard to resist.
Here is a nice blog post from someone who worked on the device at Apple which seems to suggest it really does perform well:
http://www.cultofmac.com/388474/apple-pencil-versus-wacom-cintiq/
Macrumors should update the post with this info.
Here is a nice blog post from someone who worked on the device at Apple which seems to suggest it really does perform well:
http://www.cultofmac.com/388474/apple-pencil-versus-wacom-cintiq/
Macrumors should update the post with this info.