Doesn't matter what Apple does because you have a choice to switch. The issue with ISPs is you're often stuck with one choice of an ISP.
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Apple Permanently Bans 'Infowars' App From the App Store
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Whoosh.
This isn’t about Apple, this is about mass censorship.
Once again, man I am bored of asking this, what happens when someone you agree with gets banned from all major online platforms within a few weeks?
What happens when this happens to a politician you are voting for?
And the "right" is always pretending to be against big government until things that they agree with are dealt with by the private sector.
Then the outrage machine winds up to 11.
On Apple's platform, Apple is. The government as always maintains a policy of free speech. Anyone can speak in a public place.
Free speech protects you from gov censorship not from the private sector.
Re-read and try again. This pertains to any private enterprise now allowing for speech that they disagree with on their platform. This is not a difficult concept. Apple, Breitbart, churches, etc. are all allowed to regulate speech on their various platforms and/or outlets as private enterprises.
Sorry that someone you agree with got himself booted from a bunch of platforms. You can still access his website from your iPhone.
If everyone else is missing the point but you, maybe that should be something to reflect on.
Perhaps instead of worrying about Alex Jones and Apple (I know you're talking about mass censorship, but this thread revolves around these two), you should listen to the far more dangerous things coming from Trump's Twitter feed. You have to admire a guy using their platform to bash them and question freedom of speech and the press.
Right. It's almost like his platform is still freely accessible on an iPhone. These poor fans just have to type in the domain name to get to it.
I don’t agree with Jones.
And you avoided the question, again. Surprise surprise.
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And you avoided the question too. I am truely shocked...
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I didn't avoid anything. His entire site is still freely accessible on Safari. I'd type it in and go to it, but I don't feel like giving him the click. I get that you don't understand how freedom of speech works, but you should avoid name calling. It's unbecoming.
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He's too busy thumbing through his pocket Constitution to read your answer properly.
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I think they've answered your question many times, but here's mine.
It's fine. Look, my favorite prominent politician currently is Rand Paul. If he suddenly got banned from all of those, he would express his views elsewhere. The guy is pretty moderate, so there would be a massive call for some new platforms if they were banning the likes of him. And if anything his popularity would increase.
I would also like to think that Rand Paul, of all people, would understand that a company like Apple is free to exercise its right to ban folks from its platform as he's a small government guy for the most part. One would assume that would be the case, anyway!
What happens when someone you agree with gets banned en masse from all major online platforms?
Ps this is the question you avoided by talking about Trump for some reason.
Still waiting for an answer.
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No, it isn’t. Because if it did happen you would have never have even heard of Rand Paul. That’s the beauty of censorship.
A few of us have already answered it. I'd be fine with Jon Stewart getting banned from Breitbart's new "Hot Takes" platform (or whatever it would be called if they ever invented one) since I actually understand how the First Amendment works.
I'd probably claim that Breitbart (or whatever random right wing platform it would be) were a bunch of babies for banning him and I wouldn't give them my money anymore.
You know. The exact same thing you could do, here! You can call Apple babies for banning the guy and take your money elsewhere. You're totally free to do that. Shocker, I know! What you shouldn't be doing is showing your ignorance about the First Amendment.
Alright, then we'll have to wait and see how it plays out if it happens. The govt isn't going to regulate app stores and social media as a public utility in the foreseeable future.
The irony with the Court and Kavanaugh's nomination is that any attempt by the Trump admin to actually regulate the speech of private companies is completely DOA, anyway.
But discussing the Court and any future suits with someone like Jsameds (who can't even grasp how the First Amendment works) is likely a nonstarter.
For those of you who say Apple and others are attempting to silence him, they are not. Nothing is stopping you from visiting his web site. They are just upholding the content standards specified for their platforms. You wouldn't say the same thing about allowing kiddy porn or the like on private platforms would you?
You’re answering a question I never even asked whilst avoiding my actual question.
If someone is banned en masse from all major online platforms, they are free to continue on somewhere else. If they have enough of a following, they will thrive. If not, they may go the way of the dodo. It really doesn't matter how few or many online platforms they are banned from so long as those platforms are not public spaces protected under the first amendment. Twitter, Facebook, Apple, etc. do not fit that category. I am not protected to go into your house and preach to you something you don't want to hear, nor are any platforms like you are speaking of required to host Infowars.
Does that answer the question? If you're looking for me to think this is some dangerous slippery slope because Jones got banned, then I do not agree with you. If you're looking for an answer, there you go. If you're looking for an agreement, you'll have to look elsewhere.