More like look up stupid dumb 9/11 conspiracies.
And the airplane that hit the side of pentagon, magicaly disintegrated in to thin air.
Not all conspiracy theories are dumb.
More like look up stupid dumb 9/11 conspiracies.
And the airplane that hit the side of pentagon, magicaly disintegrated in to thin air.
Not all conspiracy theories are dumb.
In the case of Sarah Jeong there was mention about how her tweets were satire. Those on the right like yourself often choose to post specific singular quotes out of context of the entire conversation. If Twitter saw those tweets as satire, she isn't much to your selectively outrage, breaking their rules. Once again bear in mind. Jones broke those rules over and over and over and over, was warned, and he didn't care. Now he's paying the price. It isn't political speech. It's a business sticking to their established rules. Something many actually criticized Twitter for because it gave Jones so many chances.
To paraphrase the saying, just because you have the right of free speech, it doesn't mean it frees you from consequences of said speech. Jones finally had to learn that lesson.
That’s not even the same theory...![]()
Do you think thats what we are talking about here? Really? Alex Jones is a nut-job that terrorizes victims of school shootings and prompts crazy conspiracy theories that say, among other things, that a certain female politician who won the popular vote for president by 3 million votes, was running a child sex ring out of a basement (that doesn't exist) in a pizza restaurant. He's crazy. He should be committed not allowed to spread his crazy to gullible idiots.I have showed it, multiple times in previous comments. Quotes and screenshots.
Search for **** trump supporters.
Search for porn.
Search for violence incitement.
Search for racist content
Search for any “offensive, insensitive, upsetting, intended to disgust, or in exceptionally poor taste" materia on any of the the social media’s or Youtube and you will find it. It’s there whether you deny that it is or not.
Yet Apple still hosts those Apps.
Ergo, the rules are unevenly applied.
How difficult is that to comprehend?
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So when someone states the truth about Islamic terrorism, or the truth about Sharia Law, or the truth about pedophilia in the church - is that hate speech or not?
Sure go ahead and try to muddy the definition of hate speech. It won't work though. We all know what you are doing.He has a hella lot more than “really? I’m done” though.
Take your hate speech elsewhere.
Do you think thats what we are talking about here? Really? Alex Jones is a nut-job that terrorizes victims of school shootings and prompts crazy conspiracy theories that say, among other things, that a certain female politician who won the popular vote for president by 3 million votes, was running a child sex ring out of a basement (that doesn't exist) in a pizza restaurant. He's crazy. He should be committed not allowed to spread his crazy to gullible idiots.
I think saying good riddance to him is too premature and optimistic. The major mainstream outlets may be silencing him, but as Alex Jones becomes more "extremist" and right-wing radical, the frothing Right-Wing hateful Trump Base will see him as a martyr demigod even more. They will just connect with him using underground channels.
He won't go away. With the imagery of the mainstream media trying to silence and "kill" his presence, Jones will just become even more of a Right-Wing Martyr. The 21st century version of Horst Wessel.
Sure go ahead and try to muddy the definition of hate speech. It won't work though. We all know what you are doing.
There is none. also Trump supporters aren't a protected class. They are just people that believe trumps lies.
That's a bit exaggerated, but the point is right. If you 100% want to go against edgy people like him, silencing publicly is the worst option. Especially with conspiracy theorists. Maybe they kinda have to ban him for harassment and/or slander since that's illegal, but media sites like YouTube should make that very clear and start by just taking down the relevant content.I think saying good riddance to him is too premature and optimistic. The major mainstream outlets may be silencing him, but as Alex Jones becomes more "extremist" and right-wing radical, the frothing Right-Wing hateful Trump Base will see him as a martyr demigod even more. They will just connect with him using underground channels.
He won't go away. With the imagery of the mainstream media trying to silence and "kill" his presence, Jones will just become even more of a Right-Wing Martyr. The 21st century version of Horst Wessel.
You have no point. Alex Jones app was there to promote Alex jones's hate speech. Twitter, youtube, facebook, are all there as social media sites and are responsible for their own policing. There is a clear difference. Either way, Apple doesn't have to host him at all, and won't, because, and this bears repeating, he is a NUT-JOB.And there’s much worse on Twitter, Youtube, Facebook, yet Apple still host those apps.
So my point still stands.
Wow you really are trying to broaden the definition of hate speech so wide to make it meaningless. Not going to happen. None of that is hate speech. Get it together.Your response to me saying there is hate speech directed at Trump supporters:
Not so nice when the shoe is on the other foot, eh? My point this whole time is that hate speech is so open to interpretation it really doesn’t have a clear definition.
So be careful what you wish for because you might just get it.
You have no point. Alex Jones app was there to promote Alex jones's hate speech. Twitter, youtube, facebook, are all there as social media sites and are responsible for their own policing. There is a clear difference. Either way, Apple doesn't have to host him at all, and won't, because, and this bears repeating, he is a NUT-JOB.
Wow you really are trying to broaden the definition of hate speech so wide to make it meaningless. Not going to happen. None of that is hate speech. Get it together.
The only way that model works is with homogenous ethnic populations and Sweden and Norway are finding out these days it ain't working so well anymore.
You make absolutely no sense what so ever. We are talking about high standard of living, good education, long life expectancy etc. That has nothing to do with homogeneous population. Even more so, you just pointed out the Norway and Sweden, countries with one of the highest standard of living in the whole world. You think it’s not working out well for them? Pay a visit, it’s working way better than you can even imagine. BTW. Norwegians hate Trump and his ideology more than any other European nation... https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/t...est-democracy-we-asked-its-people-why-n720151
Sorry but when asked for sourcing, telling someone else to search for your sourcing doesn't fly.I have showed it, multiple times in previous comments. Quotes and screenshots.
Search for **** trump supporters.
Search for porn.
Search for violence incitement.
Search for racist content
Search for any “offensive, insensitive, upsetting, intended to disgust, or in exceptionally poor taste" materia on any of the the social media’s or Youtube and you will find it. It’s there whether you deny that it is or not.
Yet Apple still hosts those Apps.
Ergo, the rules are unevenly applied.
How difficult is that to comprehend?
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So when someone states the truth about Islamic terrorism, or the truth about Sharia Law, or the truth about pedophilia in the church - is that hate speech or not?
And sorry if you're still banking on as your single sourcing the selective cut & paste of Jeong's tweets, that isn't enough. It is telling though that your only example of hate speech is certain Jeong tweets of what you selectively consider hate speech though. The same as your examples at the end, you didn't include white supremacy, misogynistic comments, homophobia, sexual harassment or more.Debate
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For Pete's sake, when are we going to reinstitute civics lessons. This has nothing to do with "free speech." The Bill of Rights only protects you against the government interference with your right to speak. If a government agency banned Jones, then you'd be correct in using that term. This same mistake is made over and over because we have moved away from educating people about their Constitutional rights. The NFL bans all types of speech and expression by players and owners, such as not letting them wear certain things on their uniforms, etc. The NFL can ban the players from demonstrating at games. The government can't, but a private company or person can.
This has nothing to do with "free speech." The Bill of Rights only protects you against the government interference with your right to speak. If a government agency banned Jones, then you'd be correct in using that term.
Twitter’s CEO Jack Dorsey overrode staff recommendations last month and personally safeguarded continued Twitter access of notorious extreme right-wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, The Wall Street Journal reported Monday.
Dorsey also did the same for white supremacist Richard Spencer, sources told the Journal. Spencer — who triggered Nazi salutes to his cries of “hail Trump” at a right-wing conference in Washington last year — was allowed back on Twitter after he was banned.
People like Jones and Spencer are at the heart of a furious debate over access to social media platforms as companies like Twitter and Facebook come under increasing pressure to police hate speech, lies, promotion of violence, threats and harassment that can touch millions of users.
Dorsey has vowed to better police Twitter. But a decision was made last month to allow Jones continued access to the powerful social media platform. Dorsey told a Journal source that’s because he overruled a staff recommendation to ban Jones from Twitter, the newspaper reported. Several Twitter workers were stunned by the decision and even complained about it in tweets, the Journal noted.
Jones, accounts linked to his Infowars podcasts or some of its content have been blocked by Apple’s iTunes, Facebook, YouTube, Spotify, Pinterest and LinkedIn. Companies have cited issues such as hate speech, harassment and promoting violence.
truthertech said:The government can't, but a private company or person can.
Shame. Free speech is dead.
I’m all for free speech. But there has to be a limit. I’m for banning all right and left wing nuts from tv, radio, internet etc.
I’d rather voice my opinion than cripple my needs because of politics.
Sorry but when asked for sourcing, telling someone else to search for your sourcing doesn't fly.
What a cop out. You obviously don’t feel that strongly then!
You are all words and no action. Typical ‘brave’ keyboard warrior!
Thank you for revealing yourself.
Fox News has the highest ratings of any cable news station and is extremely constertive. (btw news isn't supposed to be) Alex jones is a nut-job he isn't "news". Conservatives have just as much a presence in the media as anyone.
They start with the most controversial one to create a precedent then they go on suppressing the rest while they redefine the meaning of hate speech along the way. Remember communism, a left ideology that killed more than 60 million people whom did not agree with the state agenda or worked against it.
There is none. also Trump supporters aren't a protected class. They are just people that believe trumps lies.
No.So you are being willingfully ignorant and are seriously saying there is no offensive content or hate speech on Social media.
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