Apple Permanently Bans 'Infowars' App From the App Store

[Carnegie]

Anti-discrimination laws against what? The Far Right?

Political views or groups don't even fall under the realm of claiming discrimination.

Is The Blaze firing of Tomi Lahren for saying she's Pro Choice fall within discrimination? I think not.

I’m not suggesting there are laws which would apply to this situation, just inviting others to identify any they think might apply.

That said, for the record, some jurisdictions do have laws which prohibit discrimination, in some contexts, based on, e.g., political affiliation.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I’m not suggesting there are laws which would apply to this situation, just inviting others to identify any they think might apply.

That said, for the record, some jurisdictions do have laws which prohibit discrimination, in some contexts, based on, e.g., political affiliation.

I think it would depend on the situation. Like an employee being paid less than other employees, based on his/her political views.

 

[GermanSuplex]

The funny thing about all of this is that it's so Trump-like in nature. If this had happened a few years back, literally every conservative in Washington would have derided this guy and not given a crap about him being given the boot. Probably even in during Bush W.'s last term. There would be no free-speech debate. Only with the rise of the tea party because - you know, that one guy got elected - and then the election of Trump are people even giving a thought about this self-admitted fleecer actor who rips off his own base.

But, now that I typed that I out, I guess ripping off your own base goes hand in hand with Trumpism.

 

[Glockworkorange]

Wake me when Catholic priests stop molesting children.

A gratuitous shot at Christianity without at all addressing the substance of the comment.

I wonder if you'd ever write "wake me up when Muslims stop blowing people up." Naw, of course you wouldn't.

Thank you for proving my point!

 

[fpsBeaTt]

You, sir, lack any moral compass and are not worthy of further discussion if you believe it is okay to harass grieving parents, full stop, end of conversation. As a long standing member of this community I feel confident in saying that such hate filled beliefs are not welcome here. Good day sir.

Another naive strawman deflection which I said I wouldn’t even bother with, slimily put to support an ad hominem to distract from the authoritarian mindset you evidently support; to have my “moral compass” questioned by someone so fascistic is an honour.

I suspect you know this, hence your blatantly obvious bad faith, and pathetic attempt to sanctimoniously tar those that disagree, with the idea that they would support unsubstantiated behaviour that was never part of the discussion.

As a long standing member of the community, I can say that basic integrity and honesty are pillars of a healthy community, and that possessing none while exploiting the concept in others, all to support a politically motivated, retrograde muzzling of another human being, is morally and ethically revolting.

But thank you for putting your character on full display. Sunlight, after tall, is the best disinfectant
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A gratuitous shot at Christianity without at all addressing the substance of the comment.

I wonder if you'd ever write "wake me up when Muslims stop blowing people up." Naw, of course you wouldn't.

Thank you for proving my point!

Leftists and their “ UIs “ don’t concern themselves with actual threats to civilisation; it counteracts their agenda.
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Lets talk about the bakery controversy. The courts sided with the customers that bakeries don't have the right to refuse service to a customer, based on political, religious, or sexual discrimination views. That's a private company being forced.

The Supreme Court sided with the bakery 7 to 2

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colorado_Civil_Rights_Commission

So much disinformation being spewed on this thread.

 

[pacmacman]

The Supreme Court sided with the bakery 7 to 2

No, that’s not what the decision was. Your own link:

In a 7-2 decision, the Court ruled on narrow grounds that the Commission did not employ religious neutrality, violating Masterpiece owner Jack Phillips' rights to free exercise, and reversed the Commission's decision. The Court did not rule on the broader intersection of anti-discrimination laws, free exercise of religion, and freedom of speech, due to the complications of the Commission's lack of religious neutrality.

 

[jonblatho]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevl...er-really-censoring-free-speech/#26304d3e65f5

What exactly does this have to do with the price of eggs?

 

[Bawstun]

I really don’t have time to keep up with this whole thing, but something I’ve genuinely been curious about is...how do they justify banning Alex Jones? FB, Twitter, YouTube and whoever else. How has he done anything illegal, even if he is possibly crazy and way conspiracy-theorist in nature? How is that different from the other thousands or millions of conspiracy videos on YT and elsewhre? Did he threaten violence or do something majorly illegal? Otherwise it seems like policing free speech, which is kind of frightening...

 

[KGB7]

What exactly does this have to do with the price of eggs?

What's the distance between my toes and your mouth?

 

[jonblatho]

If Apple was shown to be a platform and was shown to be affecting free speech then they would have no choice legally. But in any case, legally I think it would be shown that he was sprouting hate speech and would be banned for that.

Hate speech is (generally) protected under the First Amendment, so it cannot be made illegal. The App Store will almost certainly never be considered a public forum legally, if for no other reason than you have to pay $99 per year (except eligible nonprofit entities who can be in the Apple Developer Program for free) to put anything up.
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I really don’t have time to keep up with this whole thing, but something I’ve genuinely been curious about is...how do they justify banning Alex Jones? FB, Twitter, YouTube and whoever else. How has he done anything illegal, even if he is possibly crazy and way conspiracy-theorist in nature? How is that different from the other thousands or millions of conspiracy videos on YT and elsewhre? Did he threaten violence or do something majorly illegal? Otherwise it seems like policing free speech, which is kind of frightening...

He hasn't, and he doesn't need to have done anything illegal. Until a court finds otherwise, and that will almost certainly never happen, Apple is free to allow or forbid any individual or entity it chooses to put content on its servers. Any other legal ruling would, at its core, involve the federal government forcing Apple to do business with another company, and that's just not gonna happen.

 

[EdT]

Relevant XKCD:

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I really don’t have time to keep up with this whole thing, but something I’ve genuinely been curious about is...how do they justify banning Alex Jones? FB, Twitter, YouTube and whoever else. How has he done anything illegal, even if he is possibly crazy and way conspiracy-theorist in nature? How is that different from the other thousands or millions of conspiracy videos on YT and elsewhre? Did he threaten violence or do something majorly illegal? Otherwise it seems like policing free speech, which is kind of frightening...

The thing is, what makes Alex Jones so special, besides the fact that he's known to the mainstream?

Social Media personalities with huge and modest followings get temp or perma banned on the regular. Spanning from liberal, conservatives, conscious blacks, white nationalists, atheists, and etc. This is nothing new.

 

[duffman9000]

A gratuitous shot at Christianity without at all addressing the substance of the comment.

I wonder if you'd ever write "wake me up when Muslims stop blowing people up." Naw, of course you wouldn't.

Thank you for proving my point!

The Catholic Church has had many child molestation scandals. That’s a fact. Care to dispute that? No, you can’t.
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You accused him of not interpreting something correctly, without any citation. That burden still lies on you, not him.

He admitted himself that he hasn’t finished processing what the article meant. Furthermore, someone bothered to explain it soon after.

 

[Glockworkorange]

The Catholic Church has had many child molestation scandals. That’s a fact. Care to dispute that? No, you can’t.
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He admitted himself that he hasn’t finished processing what the article meant. Furthermore, someone bothered to explain it soon after.

Lol. Sure. Again, thanks for proving my point.

 

[GermanSuplex]

Lol. Sure. Again, thanks for proving my point.

How?

 

[duffman9000]

Lol. Sure. Again, thanks for proving my point.

lol what point? That the Catholic Church is dealing with yet another child molestation scandal? You can talk about other religions all you want as I don’t care. The Church is dealing with yet another bombshell and it’s on the news. If you don’t like hearing this take it up with the Church.

 

[masterhiggins]

Great new. This guy is about as bad as it gets. A civilised society has no place for hate speech.

What leftists say can easily be considered hate speech, too. That’s the point. It’s subjective. Not sure how a civilized society can be so shortsighted to believe the tables couldn’t one day be turned on them.
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b-b-but my free speech! P-p-private platforms should allow me to spew **** out of my mouth and have to host my garbage!!

Remember that next time a gay guy wants a cake baked for his wedding.
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The way he handled himself at the Senate hearing seems to be grounds for removal. I don't think Apple wants to be associated with a man who harasses Reporters and Senators. Bad for business and image.

Then why do they associate themselves with senators like Crazy Maxine who publicly advocates for harassing congress people?
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One of this guy’s myriad followers shot up a pizzeria and threatened several lives. Others have spent years attacking and harassing the Sandy Hook parents and ruining their lives. Still think it’s all fun and games, and about simple disagreement of dissenting opinions? It would do everyone a world of good if people would stop pretending like every conflict in this world is as basic as a discussion of opposing viewpoints over coffee.

One of Senator Sanders’ followers shot up a congressional baseball game. Are we going to start playing that game?
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This is Apple's free speech. Private platform.

Strange how the left becomes such ardent libertarians when it’s their business that’s discriminating.

 

[pacmacman]

One of Senator Sanders’ followers shot up a congressional baseball game. Are we going to start playing that game?

Jones urges his followers to take action. He promotes violence. Sanders had as much to do with that gunman’s action as Jody Foster did with David Hinkley.

 

[KGB7]

The thing is, what makes Alex Jones so special, besides the fact that he's known to the mainstream?

Social Media personalities with huge and modest followings get temp or perma banned on the regular. Spanning from liberal, conservatives, conscious blacks, white nationalists, atheists, and etc. This is nothing new.

I was wondering why the news made the front page of Macrumors. I know it will drive traffic to the site and it did. But why Jones in perticular, I’m still trying to figure it out.

 

[jonblatho]

Then why do they associate themselves with senators like Crazy Maxine who publicly advocates for harassing congress people?

Maxine Waters is a senator now? Great news!

 

[KGB7]

He admitted himself that he hasn’t finished processing what the article meant. Furthermore, someone bothered to explain it soon after.

Dude..

How many days did it take for Judges to make a decision on that case?
So I can’t always interpret the law in 10min.

And I did ask for your help.

 

[GermanSuplex]

One of Senator Sanders’ followers shot up a congressional baseball game. Are we going to start playing that game?

No? Who stood up for that moron? I'm glad he was shot dead or killed himself, because he wasn't a liberal.

 

[masterhiggins]

Jones urges his followers to take action. He promotes violence. Sanders had as much to do with that gunman’s action as Jody Foster did with David Hinkley.

Cite a source where he actively instructed violence. MSM members like Chris Cuomo literally promote activist violence. Should we ban them, too? By that logic we definitely should.
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No? Who stood up for that moron? I'm glad he was shot dead or killed himself, because he wasn't a liberal.

Classical British liberal, no. Leftist, like Antifa...yes he very much was.
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Maxine Waters is a senator now? Great news!

Representative, sorry. Either way she’s a steaming pile of excrement.

 

[pacmacman]

Cite a source where he actively instructed violence.

Twitter banned him for linking to a video telling supporters to get their rifles ready.

 

[masterhiggins]

Twitter banned him for linking to a video telling supporters to get their rifles ready.

As self defense against extremist violence, not for assault. That’s one of the purposes of arms. It’s well-established in the 2nd amendment.