I don’t believe random stuff on the Internet. Also, I’ve heard many hard luck stories living in SoCal. Usually lies.
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This is my approach to Alex Jones, and I think it's the way I assess most people:
1 - I hold a person accountable for the stuff that they repeat over and over again. That's their core values - the stuff that they repeat constantly.
2 - When they slip up verbally, or were unwittingly imprecise with their words initially - and then follow up with written clarification, I DO NOT HOLD THEM to their verbal slip-ups, but I hold them to their subsequent written clarification.
That's not the Mainstream approach.
The Leftist refuse to comment on the precise details of Alex Jone's subsequent written clarification. Heck, most of you have not even read his subsequent clarification. All I read in the Mainstream news is the accusation that Alex Jones says Sandy Hook was a fake.
Remember, just because everyone is acting like a mob does not mean it is right. It just means that mobs, by definition, are made up of large numbers of people.
If you, dear reader, are publicly writing negative things about Alex Jones, which mirrors what you've read in the Mainstream Media -- but have not read Alex Jones's written clarification -- what gives you the assurance that you are not unwittingly part of a mob?
Let's say there are only privately owned communications plattforms. Oh right, that's actually true. Let's say the existing media platforms have a few common owners. Oh right, that's actually true. So you say that a very small, super rich elite should have complete control of what may be communicated in society?
Obviously, you are not one of the super rich elites. So why support them? How are you thinking? You like to support Soros, Rothschild, IMF, BIS, the Bilderbergs, Club of Rome etc. etc. etc., why? To them, you are less worth than an animal. Actually, if you support them, they have a point.
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What I'm about to say is the most obvious, bland, common sense. But it's worth repeating:
In all the decades of deciding who to vote for - and following the options of elections in other countries, there has never been one candidate who matched my ideals. Not one.
So how I pick my candidates is: (1) I identify my own personal values, and (2) select the candidate (worts and all) whose goals/promises most closely matches my values.
Comparing Trump, Obama and H.R. Clinton, out of these three the one whose promises most closely matches my values is Trump. Note that, in saying this about Trump, I am making zero comment on Trump's past and present moral behavior, or his truthfulness on 100% of issues.
What I'm about to say is the most obvious, bland, common sense. But it's worth repeating:
In all the decades of deciding who to vote for - and following the options of elections in other countries, there has never been one candidate who matched my ideals. Not one.
So how I pick my candidates is: (1) I identify my own personal values, and (2) select the candidate (worts and all) whose goals/promises most closely matches my values.
Comparing Trump, Obama and H.R. Clinton, out of these three the one whose promises most closely matches my values is Trump. Note that, in saying this about Trump, I am making zero comment on Trump's past and present moral behavior, or his truthfulness on 100% of issues.
He doxxed the parents of a child who was murdered in Newtown simply because they stood up to him. They are now in hiding. He’s currently being sued by them. In a trial motion just a few weeks ago his lawyer tried to use an arcane statute to force the couple to publicly disclose their new address, as a way of intimidating them. This man has profitably ruined the lives of a couple whose only crime was being the victims of a mass shooting.
I genuinely appreciate your sincere and civilized efforts to bring nuance to this discussion, but these simple facts are pretty damning of the man, whatever his other beliefs may or may not be.
This person who doxxed the parents, as you say. That's Alex Jones?
Please cite sources of information on the internet, so I can read up about it.
No, that's a US only point of view. Many people don't see the USA as a "civilised" country, and definitely not as a "free" country, and think society as a whole has the right to prevent damage.
People like you are the reason why everywhere around the world they hate f***ing Americans.
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Flat Earth theories don't hurt people. Unless you are the captain of a cruise ship and turn it around before it falls over the edge, instead of completing a world tour.
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So they _have_ to sell cakes to gay people? And they _have_ to sell birthday cakes to gay people? Just not wedding cakes intended for a gay wedding?
My post wasn't about your political views and who you sided with politically, it was based on your previous comment where you said you hold a person accountable for the stuff they repeat over and over and how you believe that is their core value. Given Trump's consistent need to lie to the American people, which includes his supporters, by your own statement that means you should hold Trump accountable for being a liar down to his core. Your post seems to deflect from addressing my comment. So let me restate my comment in the form of a question. Do you think Trump is a liar down to his core based on your beliefs in regards to how you hold a person accountable?
As I said before, I do not defend 100% of what Alex Jones says. I'll say further: I am disturbed and even disapprove of some things that Alex Jones says. I also think that his delivery hinders his ability to communicate to a wider audience.
On the other hand, he says things that are very valuable to the Left vs Right debate.
I monitor the ideas of the Far-Left, the Left, the Centre, the Right and the Far Right. For that reason, I find it useful to listen to Alex Jones.
No he doesn’t. He’s an admitted fraud.
This entire line of reasoning doesn’t make sense to me. Jones, and people like him, are just trying to use our own tolerance as a society against us. He’s poison and should be expelled from public debate. If his followers are so determined that he’s important, they can keep buying his supplements.
“Deplatforming” is right. He’s not entitled to a platform on the backs of others, and potentially their blood.
I do find it offensive that rappers have said many violent things in their thongs...
the question that people don't ask themselves is, why so much hate and persecution to this man? yes I seen and heard the things that he talks about in some of his shows, I honestly seen and heard worse on tv, I think that maybe he talked about something or he mentioned something and hit a nerve, now everybody is together against him, I don't get mad when someone says something about me that is truth, I only get mad if is a lie, but most people can't handle the truth and they get upset when you grill them, is very obvious that they re trying to silence him, if anyone has any idea what was the show that caused this please give me a link or a title, some people consider honesty, hate, while many people out there wants to go deep into the rabbit and try to discover what the hell is going on, there are others with a different agenda that is to cover up. in my opinion from all the Alex Jones shows that I heard about conspiracy theories etc. I never head anything that was consider inappropriate. we can't say nothing and we have to accept everything because if I say I'm a man and I like woman then I'm attacking the others, I guess you know who, I didn't say nothing bad or attack anybody but this is the way society works, they want to force things down people throw, well ain't going happen here, I'm truly free from the mind control anyway later
I"m guessing there's a really good reason no one bothers to ask themselves that where Alex Jones is concerned.
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many people are judging this man without even knowing anything about it, they simply believe everything the media said, I'm not defending him and just trying to be fair, social media and society try to prohibit certain topics and they don't want us to talk about it, why? I know there are some topics that are delicate but if we talk about it with respect then we can talk about it, but not even respect saves the day, is like is forbidden, do you think that is fair of course not, the way I see it, is not good for the ones doing all the bad things behind the scenes, since some people can see the lies of the government better than others, well let's take this man out, is not good for us. if you think that seeing or hearing an Alex Jones show is bad then try the news, murders, robbery, rapist, racist, corruption, etc etc etc, is that any better?
anyway anyone is free to believe what ever they want
I respect your opinion or point of view even if is different to mine
no problem
I choose to be realistic rather than believe in fairy tales
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To be fair a few of the maps called gerrymandered have been drawn by Democrats.
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So, you believe in spitting on traditions, epecially ones set to promote showing an honest accounting of ones background (tax returns)? If demonizing media because they post negative stories? Constantly insulting people you don’t agree with?
You don't ban the app, you ban the person/company that shares FALSE information and instigates hate and calls for violence, just like you would any terrorist group. Which is EXACTLY what they did!
You don't ban guns, you arrest the people that mis-use it (and should ban companies that make bump-stocks that have no purpose other then mass murder).
You don't ban alcohol even though there are drunk drivers out there.
See how it works!?
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cop killer
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many people are judging this man without even knowing anything about it, they simply believe everything the media said, I'm not defending him and just trying to be fair, social media and society try to prohibit certain topics and they don't want us to talk about it, why? I know there are some topics that are delicate but if we talk about it with respect then we can talk about it, but not even respect saves the day, is like is forbidden, do you think that is fair of course not, the way I see it, is not good for the ones doing all the bad things behind the scenes, since some people can see the lies of the government better than others, well let's take this man out, is not good for us. if you think that seeing or hearing an Alex Jones show is bad then try the news, murders, robbery, rapist, racist, corruption, etc etc etc, is that any better?
anyway anyone is free to believe what ever they want
I respect your opinion or point of view even if is different to mine
no problem
I choose to be realistic rather than believe in fairy tales
No the point I was making was he said thongs instead of songs and it is hilarious.
It’s not the mainstream approach because it’s wide open to abuse. You’re being a decent, fair and trusting person, but you’re setting yourself up to be lied to always.
Why?
If a con man knows he can easily correct his lie, if you call him on it, he will always lie to you in the first place because it’ll always be to his advantage. Either:
(1) You don’t realize it’s a lie - so he’s just pulled a fast one on you.
OR
(2) You do realize he’s lying - but since you always forgive him, he’s no worse off.
OR
(2) You do realize he’s lying - but since you always forgive him, he’s no worse off.
He’ll always win, you’ll always lose.
Or to put it another way: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
It’s apparently news to a lot of people, but there are laws that specifically list reasons that CANNOT be used by private business to reject a customer. For example: If a private business does not want to do business with somebody because that somebody is black or a muslim, tough luck.