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Overall, which I know means little to any given location, violent crime is NOT increasing in the USA. Statistics show it's not much above the lowest levels in decades though no longer continuing to decline.


Violent crime can not be increasing for several reason. It can actually not be increasing. Or, the police and prosecutors can game the system. They can document a violent crime as a non violent crime. Or, people may have given up on reporting crime, if they realized the police and prosecutors have no intention of doing anything about it.

Another trick is that many murders aren’t murders anymore. Trauma medicine has gotten much better. Ambulance services are quicker and more widespread. So, many criminal acts which would have been murder in the past are now aggravated assaults or attempted murder.

I know in my experience that violent crime is absolute increasing near me, and, most especially, at our mall which is a dangerous place.
 
From the UK looking in, guns at one thing we don’t have, we don’t need.

In NC guns sales have virtually doubled in the last six years, you have nearly 4 gun dealers for every one McDonald’s restaurant.

If you have people buying guns you must expect that they are going to use them. Perhaps the fault lies with your gun laws, not migrating people.
Funny, how people who aren’t even US citizens poke their nose in our business!!

Yeah.. This ain’t the UK.. We have what’s known as the 2nd baked into our Constitution for a reason!

It’s NOT going anywhere because your snowflake feelings are hurt!

Gun violence is a result of mental health issues and gangs. Guns don’t just get up and start shootings themselves..

Ugh, why am I even getting into this here.. This forum is full of wokes and ‘the police is gonna save me’ liberals!
 
Funny, how people who aren’t even US citizens poke their nose in our business!!

Yeah.. This ain’t the UK.. We have what’s known as the 2nd baked into our Constitution for a reason!

It’s NOT going anywhere because your snowflake feelings are hurt!

Gun violence is a result of mental health issues and gangs. Guns don’t just get up and start shootings themselves..

Ugh, why am I even getting into this here.. This forum is full of wokes and ‘the police is gonna save me’ liberals!
That’sa great parody account you’ve got their friends.
Be well
 
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unless you’re willing to stop dehumanizing your opponents and actually engage with their arguments, things are gonna get ugly for everyone.

That's a problem of your own making. There aren't two legitimate sides to everything, and if a person refuses to live in reality, they'll get mocked appropriately for it.

If you're in any way suggesting that your next step is violence, the only thing I can say is that you've probably overestimated your strength in this regard. My family and I are just trying to live our lives in peace, which is what we want for everyone else also, but if you choose violence, we'll defend ourselves.
 
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From the UK looking in, guns at one thing we don’t have, we don’t need.

In NC guns sales have virtually doubled in the last six years, you have nearly 4 gun dealers for every one McDonald’s restaurant.

If you have people buying guns you must expect that they are going to use them. Perhaps the fault lies with your gun laws, not migrating people.
If you don’t live in America, maybe don’t make comments about American gun laws. Guess what? Highly restrictive gun laws don’t work! Chicago has extremely restrictive gun laws and it is one of the most violent cities. The problem isn’t the guns, it’s actually dealing with criminals and punishing them. Tons of these killers are repeat offenders.
 
If you don’t live in America, maybe don’t make comments about our gun laws. Guess what? Highly restrictive gun laws don’t work! Chicago has extremely restrictive gun laws and it is one of the most violent cities. The problem isn’t the guns, it’s actually dealing with criminals and punishing them. Tons of these killers are repeat offenders.
If you say “this gun is illegal” will a criminal obey that? No!
 
If you don’t live in America, maybe don’t make comments about our gun laws. Guess what? Highly restrictive gun laws don’t work! Chicago has extremely restrictive gun laws and it is one of the most violent cities. The problem isn’t the guns, it’s actually dealing with criminals and punishing them. Tons of these killers are repeat offenders.

1. People intent on committing crimes with guns, or owning guns illegally won't ever be affected by city/state laws, because they have the means, and the ability to get what they want in states/cities that don't have these rules.
2. Related to the above, Chicago is one of the most violent cities, partially because of segregation issues, but also because it's easy as hell to get guns in neighboring Indiana, which is minutes away, and does not have the same laws.

At some point, people are going to have to accept that as long as states can decide what they want to do, and we don't have searched checkpoints at all borders, that individual laws don't matter. The lowest common denominator is what matters. Federal/National laws are what's needed to help curtail the gun problem. You can whine and moan all you like about how it won't work, but it's the only thing that hasn't been tried here, and that same thing has worked in other countries.
 
1. People intent on committing crimes with guns, or owning guns illegally won't ever be affected by city/state laws, because they have the means, and the ability to get what they want in states/cities that don't have these rules.
2. Related to the above, Chicago is one of the most violent cities, partially because of segregation issues, but also because it's easy as hell to get guns in neighboring Indiana, which is minutes away, and does not have the same laws.

At some point, people are going to have to accept that as long as states can decide what they want to do, and we don't have searched checkpoints at all borders, that individual laws don't matter. The lowest common denominator is what matters. Federal/National laws are what's needed to help curtail the gun problem. You can whine and moan all you like about how it won't work, but it's the only thing that hasn't been tried here, and that same thing has worked in other countries.
Like the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and China? Countries that don’t protect a right to bear arms don’t have a people that protect themselves. I do agree though that we need stronger border security to prevent trafficking of drugs, people, or guns.
 
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At some point, people are going to have to accept that as long as states can decide what they want to do, and we don't have searched checkpoints at all borders, that individual laws don't matter.

That seems to be what's on the mind of some in the anti-abortion lobby. What's the point of banning abortion in Texas if you can just go to New Mexico to get one? Hence the rise in "crossing state lines" restrictions. That's sort of the great paradox of the United States. We want the states to essentially be separate nations but we also want to be one unified nation. It's often "pick and choose" when it comes to which laws should be state-level and which should be federal.
 
That's a problem of your own making. There aren't two legitimate sides to everything, and if a person refuses to live in reality, they'll get mocked appropriately for it.

If you're in any way suggesting that your next step is violence, the only thing I can say is that you've probably overestimated your strength in this regard. My family and I are just trying to live our lives in peace, which is what we want for everyone else also, but if you choose violence, we'll defend ourselves.

My next step? I’ll level with you, I stopped caring about what happens in society a long time ago. Like you, I want to be left alone. I’m watching things unfold like it’s a spectator sport.

Violence may be the next step but I doubt it. I think the more likely outcome is some kind of balkanization. You’re already seeing it all over the country with gated communities where the price tag to live in them filters who can live there and who can’t. I think this is going to expand to the state level. These places have private security and I can see a scenario where the security would be armed.

You ignore peoples’ concerns (valid or not) and you’re gonna get conflict. But I don’t think it will degenerate to violence. People in general have too much to lose so they won’t risk it over just ideology in isolation.
 
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So Apple hasn’t actually stated that it had anything to do with the shootings, so it appears Bloomberg and others are just guessing.
 
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Very sad! I was just there last week!

The Northlake Apple Store served not just that park of Charlotte... but also the greater Lake Norman area where I live.

Now instead of a 25 minute drive... it will take me 50 minutes to drive to SouthPark Mall on the other side of Charlotte.

I wonder where the new store will be? I hope it's in the same general location. The Northlake area has tons of shopping (the mall, Best Buy, Lowes, Target, plenty of restaurants) and it's all conveniently located near two interstates.

Another place I could see an Apple Store would be the Concord Mills area. That's another location with a mall, restaurants, and plenty of shopping. And the racetrack!

:p
I live there as well, and this store will be sorely missed! My wife and I guessed that it could be in the new Birkdale expansion that's being built now.
 
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I do care about children when they’re born. I just don’t agree that gun control laws work.

There's a certain clarity by looking at a situation from the outside. We know that. The "gun control laws " currently implemented in the US are a joke by those of us on the outside. They don't work because they are not strict enough and consistently implemented across the nation. It should be a federally-controlled set of laws.

People use the Constitution as their argument for pro-guns, which is a "US-domain" document, so the guns should be equally enforced at the federal level, too, not per-state.
 
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