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Can't believe I've missed all this fun! My .10 cents...:)

First, Apple needs a distribution system, end-to-end, from them to the consumer. They may have to rely on others pipes at first, but they'll be planning complete control, old school Apple style. This is, after all, still the same company we know and love. So whether they buy Dish, or partner with ATT or another provider (Sprint just launched their 4G today in several cities) the content will not get "4th party provider taxed," the fourth party being like a Comcast charging outrageously high for internet service.

Second, this probably isn't for the major networks. Not only do they own their content, but they distribute too, for free, over the air. In most major metropolitan areas they even own the stations, so taking their direct revenue is pretty much out of the question. They've just spent a ton of money on HD and the digital switch, they still need to make a lot of that back. So basically, the top content isn't for sale. Plus they're making money from affiliate stations and they don't have to do a relative amount of work to rake this cash in. The OTA system is in place for these guys and they like it. It's their bread and butter and it's not going away anytime soon.

Thirdly, all of the major networks own a ton of content that isn't make them much money on their cable channels. This is the content Apple will be able to distribute, at least at first. The major networks would be able to save a ton of cash by shutting the channels down and just handing Apple a digital file of a finished show. Then you have the content that is making the major networks money. Take Showtime for instance, it's Viacom and Viacom is CBS. It's a pay to view channel already, so why would they care who's paying for it. Give it to Apple, and they might bring in better margins on what they're already doing. This pay to view content is going to be Apple's big push to the consumer.

Fourth, sports. Now we've got a problem. This all depends on the first thing, distribution. Will Apple have the ability to deliver live sports to my living room? Major obstacle, but not insurmountable. Back to the first issue, control the delivery and you can control the content. ESPN 360 comes to mind here. It's distributed by Verizon. Why? 'Cause Verizon's paying them big bucks for these rights. Who pays Verizon, you do. How could Apple rest control from Verizon? By making Disney a lot more money with their other content, like Lifetime. Chances are, Lifetime would make a lot more money by buying individual shows. If you watch these stations, there's hardly any advertising at all, it's just a bunch of back-to-back channel promos, and those don't make money.

Fifth, and finally, who'll be the guinea pig network to "give up" their content. I think it's Disney, for more reasons than just Jobs being on the board. ABC's losing market share everyday. They trend toward a younger demo, who's more likely to give this a shot, and they launched 11 new shows this fall, none of which have gained any traction. They've already delved into the TV/Internet foray with shows like Lost and realized the potential this (for lack of a better word) synergy creates. Disney will consider the internet a "testing ground" and use the iTunes distribution to move shows that become successful to ABC. So take Lifetime again. They create a new show on Lifetime, which would be distributed on iTunes. It does well and appeals to all ranges of women. Now Disney can move that show to ABC and reap the advertising rewards. iTunes becomes the minor leagues for the networks, in a sense. The internet metrics are way better than Nielsen's and they don't have as much to lose from a failed show. Apple doesn't care that the content is gone from iTunes, because 10 other shows will spring up in it's place.

It's gonna happen people. Apple's in the game and there's money to be made...
 
This is exactly what I've been hoping for. I'm in the UK, I can get freesat for bbc, itv and C4 and use itunes for all my other shows like Scrubs and Mythbusters with this subscription.

I think the Apple TV would see a massive boost in this case.

Except you're not going to get a service like this.
I'm sure this will be US only.
The tv and movie industry seem to be ok with Europeans downloading everything for nought from Usenet&Bittorrent and aren't willing to offer us affordable alternatives.
 
Oh God. Oh God please be true, and then please actually happen.

This would be one HUGE step closer to removing cable companies having a monopoly over huge areas.

TV networks are intrigued by the potential for increased revenue streams that could be afforded by Apple's proposal, but are also leery of harming their existing relationships with the cable companies

Stop this Stockholm's Syndrome and break free of them! Who cares if their feelings get hurt, they've screwed both the consumer and the networks themselves over for too long. We NEED this competition. BADLY!
 
I think this is a GREAT idea! I don't really watch TV myself, so I wouldn't care about it, but I think this is the way the industry needs to go! No more need for DVRs and paying out the nose!

Bring it on Apple, with a new Apple TV and the Tablet! :D
 
I think this is a GREAT idea! I don't really watch TV myself, so I wouldn't care about it, but I think this is the way the industry needs to go! No more need for DVRs and paying out the nose!

Me neither. The last TV I bought cost $4000, in 1999, and I turned around three months later and gave it away just to get it out of my house. I was working in advertising at the time, and it was like having an open sewer main in my living room.

These days I do get a kick out of House & Entourage when they pop online. But, two current shows aren't enough to justify paying a monthly cable bill, plus watching all that advertising. If they'd line up nice & neat alongside my podcasts, I'd be happy paying a few clams a month while they're putting out new episodes.

But, signing a contract saying you're going to keep paying them, when there's nothing that says they'll keep making the show you want to see, and keep making it quality... signing contracts to buy entertainment, no way.
 
Engadget is reporting the service would cost $30/month.

I wonder where they got that number from and what it would include.

It has to be in conjunction with ATT. I think Munster or Piper Jaffrey (spelling) stated that Apple and ATT were going to combine to offer a cable service much like ATT U-verse however through multiple outlets, such as an iPhone, iMac, iPod, :apple:TV, and the tablet/slate.

It's Genius for $30 a month!
 
Don't know if this has been said...

I'd love to switch to this type of subscription or ala-cart...the only issue for me is my sports programming...foxsports, versus, and espn for live sports programming.

If I could get a simple sports-tier on my cable for under $10 and then my broadband to access subscription stuff that would be grand.

But then I worry Comcast will just charge me a grand for broadband.
 
I would love this, but they also need to get some of the cable news stations on board.

Maybe this will finally bring Apple to release a new Apple TV.
 
It could be a really sweet idea if it actually works out well. However given their currently release schedule I'd never subscribe. While most shows are posted the next day sometime in the afternoon. Some shows go 2-4 days before the episodes are even posted. No one replacing their cable package is going to want to wait that long after it airs. My main problem with them right now is speed, they are far too slow are posting new episodes. If they could have them up the next morning, or ideally right after or an hour after airing I'd be very interested and consider cancelling my cable.

If they want to defeat piracy they need to post better quality faster. I suspect many just download pirated episodes because they are posted within an hour or 2 of it airing.
 
If they offer this, I bet they introduce a streaming model to iTunes. I don't see them offering a "pick 10 TV Shows for $29.99 per month" or whatever. I don't want to download and store the content anyway.

Yup. So what is this new 600,000 sq' facility down south? Cloud Streaming Networks? TV on the go? One huge iTunes Server streaming various media around the globe to "Tablets".

One wonders. Steve is has something Huge planned IMO. :apple:
 
Lack of Support for Sports is a Huge Hurdle

Unless they find a way to bring me hockey games in HD, I will not be throwing my money at this service.
 
Yup. So what is this new 600,000 sq' facility down south? Cloud Streaming Networks? TV on the go? One huge iTunes Server streaming various media around the globe to "Tablets".

One wonders. Steve is has something Huge planned IMO. :apple:

Um what new 600,000 sq. ft facility.......I need to read more.
 
I also think it is about time this primitive way of watching television - 3 digit channel numbers, and schedules - went away. When you watch a show on Apple TV, you get a nicely trimmed product. A DVR is just a band-aid technology.

I can go to pretty much any TV program's website and watch the latest episode for free the day after it airs. Why in the world would I want to pay for this, especially given that none of the programs will probably be anywhere near their original HD quality?

Hulu, Netflix, YouTube, iTunes, shows jumping to different networks ("Medium," "Scrubs"), etc., are eroding the brand association between shows and networks. An Apple subscription plan with a fairly large subscriber base would take that to a whole different level.

In an environment where Apple has 25M TV subscribers, "House" isn't a show produced by NBCU that airs on Fox on Mondays at 8 p.m. It's just "House." That blows apart almost every element of what we traditionally consider TV to be that DVRs and the internet haven't blown apart already.
 
What if the networks they were pitching it to were all premium (HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, etc). These networks are already used to a subscription model, would embrace a new outlet of customers for new subscriptions, and the first group in who embraces this new VOD distribution model could be the next ABC, CBS, ABC in 5-10 years.
 
time for cable companies to move over

Now this is exciting, I love to see how they would do it, maybe for once I can have a service that does not put 10 channels of useless religion dogma even if I don't want it. I love to see it happen and be able to purchase just what I want and nothing else.
 
As cool as this sounds, I just do not see it going anywhere. I don't think the likes of Comcast would like Apple horning in on their business.
 
Don't know if this has been said...

I'd love to switch to this type of subscription or ala-cart...the only issue for me is my sports programming...foxsports, versus, and espn for live sports programming.

If I could get a simple sports-tier on my cable for under $10 and then my broadband to access subscription stuff that would be grand.

But then I worry Comcast will just charge me a grand for broadband.

That last bit is it. Apple would need to bypass the established pipes to have a chance at making the dreams described in this thread become reality. If they have to work through "partners" (such as the cable monopolies), this will be much like loving the iPhone and hating the cell phone company.

If you hear about Apple buying DISH, that would seem to be the most obvious way to make some of these dreams come true. I've heard comments about Google trying to get the "white spaces" (sort of buffer space) between TV bands opened up for digital signals, creating the possibility of an over-the-air broadband network, though I haven't seen much hard facts as to how much bandwith that would offer, and exactly how great (or not great) it would be if packaged as a virtual broadband pipe. I do recall Apple was once rumored to be in the running for the over-the-air bandwith auctioned off as part of the DTV transition. I reasoned the interest- if real- was a backup they could control should things sour with AT&T, and Verizon not offer anything better. But of course, Verizon & AT&T pretty much snatched up all the free space (they don't want any new competition now do they?)

I keep believing Apple- being Apple- would want to have total control of the experience, which translates into owning a way to get the info directly from Apple servers to end users (us), but the only ways I am aware of that could be realized in the next 12+ months would be to buy DISH network or maybe this rumored white space allocation. I keep coming back to the DISH network thing as that could kill a couple of birds with one stone: live programming like sports, local programming, etc, while episodic television could be pumped as digital streams to :apple:TV-like boxes based on individual subscription choices. Conceptually, that would work, giving Apple a broadband pipe with probably enough total bandwith to feed everyone's next-gen :apple:TV with the ala-carte subscriptions we each select.

Apple has the massive cash reserves to pull that off. It is a North America only solution, but it seems like Apple still tends to think U.S. well before the rest of the world anyway when it comes to the video side of iTunes. That kind of move would be a major game changer, shaking up the entire industry (everyone).
 
I wonder if you will have to stream everything (like netflix) or if it will be like iTunes rentals? Maybe you can download a TV show and you have 24 hours (or whatever) to watch it. I would guess that would be the way to go so you could load up content on to your iPhone/iPod/iTablet or whatever, and watch it on the go.

Either way, I am super excited about this whole idea. It won't be perfect at first, but it will change the way we watch TV before we know it. :)
 
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Don't see it working everywhere. BroadBand prices, speeds and data limits are appauling in Australia. Looks like we'll be stuck with our 5 free-to-air broadcasters and overprices Foxtel/Austar
 
I canceled by Direct TV long ago as its really not convenient for me and i dont have time to set up my DVR for everything....so it this service will be at a reasonable price im definitely getting it
 
Me neither. The last TV I bought cost $4000, in 1999, and I turned around three months later and gave it away just to get it out of my house. I was working in advertising at the time, and it was like having an open sewer main in my living room.

These days I do get a kick out of House & Entourage when they pop online. But, two current shows aren't enough to justify paying a monthly cable bill, plus watching all that advertising. If they'd line up nice & neat alongside my podcasts, I'd be happy paying a few clams a month while they're putting out new episodes.

But, signing a contract saying you're going to keep paying them, when there's nothing that says they'll keep making the show you want to see, and keep making it quality... signing contracts to buy entertainment, no way.

I hear ya! I have a 42" plasma but I mostly just watch movies. I am a film-maker and I LOVE my Apple TV :) But I hardly ever have time to watch TV. I'll catch an occasional show on Hulu sometimes or a podcast but that is about it. TV is all really annoying to me now. I think the subscription service does not make sense for music, but for TV it does. Movies... I dunno, maybe. I don't quite like the idea of people not buying my movies and just sharing subscriber revenue.
 
If disney jumps aboard the rest will follow suit. Theres so many hannah montana tween viewers with ipods/iphones that they would no doubt profit off of. :rolleyes:

Keep in mind that disney owns ABC and ESPN,so it would just be for tweens, How sweet would it be to stream monday night football!
 
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