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Apple Planning Both 10.2-Inch 'iPad 7' and All-New 10.5-Inch iPad According to Proven Leaker
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Yeah, that makes some sense, just keep around an older model for the low end in the same sizes. But I think Apple wants to keep certain features for the higher end Pro models, such as inductive charging for Apple Pencil No.2, USB-C, better camera, Pro Motion, True Tone, quad speakers, etc. I also wonder if iOS 13 will create some further differentiation in software for the iPad vs. the iPad Pro, with more advanced features for the latter—perhaps leveraging things like USB-C for mounting drives and for controlling an external display with the iPad acting as a keyboard and trackpad. I just don't see them moving away from the Pro branding at this point because they want professionals to buy these higher priced versions as companions to their Macs or as replacements for lower-end Macs such as the Air.
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I suppose, but the leaker has a solid track record. And they seem to love popping off random display sizes these days so it's quite believable.
Interesting every single tweet of his has proven to be right. But I still can't figure out how this is suppose to work 10.2 and 10.5?
Unless it is the same iPad size with two variant, Face ID and Touch ID. Which would suggest the FaceID getting a slightly bigger screen. But then why would Apple would to differentiate its product like that ?
Unless it is the same iPad size with two variant, Face ID and Touch ID. Which would suggest the FaceID getting a slightly bigger screen. But then why would Apple would to differentiate its product like that ?
10.2 will replace 9.7 at the $299/329 entry level price point. Could be a slightly larger display with the new 10:7 aspect ratio, like when iPad Pro went from 10.5 to 11.0. So width would stay the same but top/bottom bezels would shrink a bit and be replaced by additional display area.
Then the old 10.5 Pro would be de-featured in some manner to make it non-Pro, but it would still have upgraded features compared to the entry level iPad. So laminated display, four speakers, maybe Pro Motion, cameras, who knows what. (It would keep TouchID.)
There’s a pretty big gap, both in features and price, between the $299/329 base model and the $799/999 Pro models. The 10.5 would price somewhere around $499-599 depending on the feature set—and what Apple can get away with
I’m hoping for $499 but we’ll see...Anyway, that’s my understanding.
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10.2 will replace 9.7 at the $299/329 entry level price point. Could be a slightly larger display with the new 10:7 aspect ratio, like when iPad Pro went from 10.5 to 11.0. So width would stay the same but top/bottom bezels would shrink a bit and be replaced by additional display area.
Then the old 10.5 Pro would be de-featured in some manner to make it non-Pro, but it would still have upgraded features compared to the entry level iPad. So laminated display, four speakers, maybe Pro Motion, cameras, who knows what. (It would keep TouchID.)
There’s a pretty big gap, both in features and price, between the $299/329 base model and the $799/999 Pro models. The 10.5 would price somewhere around $499-599 depending on the feature set—and what Apple can get away with
Anyway, that’s my understanding.
This explanation doesn't suggest any big gap between iPad 10.5 and 10.2. Both would have Touch ID and would look arguably the same. Worst lineup ever.
Well, you said in your first post you couldn’t figure it out so I guess it’s not surprising that you’re still baffled lol. Maybe I can help you out by simplifying it a bit for you.
So there are currently two models with TouchID: the 9.7” at $299/329 and the 10.5” Pro at $649.
The 9.7” becomes 10.2”, still at $299/329.
The 10.5” has a few features removed to bring it down to somewhere in the $499-599 range. Call it $549, halfway between $299 and $799.
New lineup: Good/Better/Best
- Good: $299/329 entry level, 10.2”, least expensive, fewest features, meant for kids, education and those who want the least expensive entry point. It’s still a decent iPad, A10X or A11.
- Better: $549, 10.5”, laminated screen, four speakers with surprisingly good sound for a tablet, better cameras plus some other upgrades from the base model.
- Best: $799 11” iPad Pro. Expensive but worth it (for some). FaceID, USB-C, minimal bezels, wireless charging Pencil 2, etc.
All Apple needs to do is decide on a price point between $299 and $799. Then they can de-feature the $649 10.5 Pro to match.
Obviously three models at $299/549/799 in a good/better/best lineup is much more complicated than two models, $299/799. There are a lot of non-techies in this thread who think the two models is plenty, and there’s no need for a third. Some do best with only two options; it makes things so much less complicated. Do you want this or that? Nice and easy!
But apparently Apple thinks there’s room for a mid-level model between the $299/799 price points. And I guess they think people can handle choosing from a $299/549/799 lineup rather than just the $299/799 lineup that the non-techie types here at the MR forums would prefer.
So which do you think would be the best lineup ever? The simple two model lineup ($299/799, 10.2”/11.0”, regular/Pro) or the complicated three model lineup ($299/549/799, 10.2”/10.5”/11.0”, regular/mid-level/Pro)?
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I am baffled because this explanation only make sense if Apple were Dell. And they are not.
If Apple were to have iPad at lower price point, they wouldn't change the design anyway. Changing it requires a whole new line of manufacturing as well as panel adjustment new Resolution assuming keeping at same PPI which means Software will needs to accommodate for these changes and software changes cost a lot.
The 10.5 will be the confusion to consumer.
Apple has always kept the product as either Pro and Non Pro. In the case they do separate into three segment as you describe as Good Better and Best, they are normally operated by Size, Mac mini, iMac and Mac Pro. Each serving a different use case and target customers.
The 10.5 doesn't fit any of those narrative.
I could see iPad Pro 10.5 getting a price drop, or updated with new SoC . But having a "New" iPad with 10.5 and 10.2 doesn't make any sense looking from the outside.
Well I suppose if Apple is retiring some of the current sizes of iPad the line won't look like this All prime I'm sure!
All prime I'm sure!
You are forgetting the 8, 8 plus and 7. The current product lines are fragmented and complicated. Specifically the iPad line.
Who is this “Proven Leaker”?
Colin of course ! lol
He tweeted this a week before the new iPhone :
https://twitter.com/coiiiiiiiin/status/1036690857959645184
2018 iPhone naming:
iPhone Xs iPhone Xs Max iPhone XR
See you next week
not bad for a guess
Well, I nailed the A12 and dropping the 10.5" Pro - missed the dropping promotion, quad speakers and going with a cheaper camera and dropping the price to $499.
