Those who are already in the Apple ecosystem will be sorry if they buy a Nexus 7. I believe an iPad Mini that offers %41 more screen area for only $50-$100 more will be the right choice between the two devices.
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Apple Planning for 7.85-Inch 'iPad Mini' with IGZO Display Later This Year?
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I work in health care and while I do have an iPad 2, it is too large to carry in my pocket or around seeing patients. I do carry my iPhone, have medical reference apps on it, but always have to expand it for my Boomer aged eyes.
So I would welcome and pay the Apple premium for a 7 inchish tablet. I am not too afraid of fragmentation since the OS systems always seem to work seamlessly.
I work in health care and while I do have an iPad 2, it is too large to carry in my pocket or around seeing patients. I do carry my iPhone, have medical reference apps on it, but always have to expand it for my Boomer aged eyes.
So I would welcome and pay the Apple premium for a 7 inchish tablet. I am not too afraid of fragmentation since the OS systems always seem to work seamlessly.
I agree that the Nexus 7 looks like a high quality device, especially compared to the Kindle Fire. There will also probably be a Kindle Fire 2 in the near future with similar polish. I think that an iPad in that product category could still beat both of them in hardware and software quality.
The original Kindle Fire is a BB Playbook stripped down to meet a price target. The Nexus 7 seems much better designed for its price point.
I think that Apple has been considering a 7-8" iPad for a long time, they've just been waiting for the evidence that there is a real market for it. Steve Jobs criticizing the idea doesn't really mean much. He also said that video on an iPod was a stupid idea, and that they weren't working on their own phone.
Nexus 7
I am replacing my Kindle Fire with Nexus 7.
Would not mind iPad mini despite people keep saying there is no market for it.
I am replacing my Kindle Fire with Nexus 7.
Would not mind iPad mini despite people keep saying there is no market for it.
I work in health care and while I do have an iPad 2, it is too large to carry in my pocket or around seeing patients. I do carry my iPhone, have medical reference apps on it, but always have to expand it for my Boomer aged eyes.
So I would welcome and pay the Apple premium for a 7 inchish tablet. I am not too afraid of fragmentation since the OS systems always seem to work seamlessly.
Yep...agreed. The 7" is much more mobile for someone like you, in the restaurant business (waiter/waitress), retail, trade shows, on video shoots, etc.
There wouldn't be any fragmentation.
So if it's Plastic it's junk? Is that what you are saying?
Or do you feel good quality and well designed plastic can be a superb material for constructing things with. Far stronger, less damage resistant and lighter than say Aluminium?
How many times are they going to bring back this rumor? It's been going around since this time last year.
I think in the time since he made those statements we've come to see that he was exactly right about the fragmentation in the Android market. As he was about all of the observations he made about open as opposed to integrated.
iPhone users enjoy regular upgrades to iOS while a lot of Android users are simply left out of updates unless they purchase a new phone.
Google has purchased Motorola Mobility, a company that makes phones, in a move that would bring Android closer to an integrated model. Microsoft is doing the same thing, even with the Surface, they are tightening control of software and hardware integration.
I fail to see where the BS is, other than people who have not yet realized that Android's days as an unintegrated platform are probably numbered.
This is what I was saying in a different thread yesterday.
There are many times, esp in business where being able to easily hold a tablet device with one hand, and have the other free to do things would be ideal and what's needed.
The typical response I got was along the lines of, no it's not, the current size is perfect, and you need to man up if you can't hold the current model in one hand for any length of time.
You know, the typical intelligent reply we get here from some people.
I''m thinking of getting a Nexus. I have an iPod Touch 3rd Gen and an iPad 3(rd Gen)
A larger iPod touch is still not going to be as large as this, I'd say 5 inches max so its pocketable.
An Ipad mini at this size would have to use the A5 chip - low power new version as would the Touch while the Nexus has the Tegra and GPS so that's pretty sweet. If Google sells the Nexus at cost or even at a loss like Amazon it would gain serious traction early on and Apple might decide not to enter that niche.
A larger iPod touch is still not going to be as large as this, I'd say 5 inches max so its pocketable.
An Ipad mini at this size would have to use the A5 chip - low power new version as would the Touch while the Nexus has the Tegra and GPS so that's pretty sweet. If Google sells the Nexus at cost or even at a loss like Amazon it would gain serious traction early on and Apple might decide not to enter that niche.
Ah, but in true Steve-style, he would bash something as "stupid, bad idea", etc. and then turn around and release his own version.
Example? Steve said that he didn't think video was important on the iPod. At the time, it did color pictures on a tiny 2.5" screen (iPod 5th gen, I think). The next version did.
Steve never gives away his future plans. If he bashes it, it could be because he is going to do it himself. Or it's a bad idea. We don't find out until Steve does it.
Remember, four years of products in the works before he died.
Agreed, he used a lot of deceptive wording and exaggerations to make his points (read RDF):
A 7.85" screen is dimensionally 81% that of a 9.7" screen, this is what really matters; also, the pixel density would be the same as the iPhone.
If there was truth in what he said, you couldn't use an iPhone.
Also people do not realize, he make them better (the same product he bashes)
This is what I was saying in a different thread yesterday.
There are many times, esp in business where being able to easily hold a tablet device with one hand, and have the other free to do things would be ideal and what's needed.
The typical response I got was along the lines of, no it's not, the current size is perfect, and you need to man up if you can't hold the current model in one hand for any length of time.
You know, the typical intelligent reply we get here from some people.
Ignore them.
The current iPad is great for on the couch, content consumption, vacations and even business.
But for on the go everyday or long term use during the day where you are not at a desk or counter, then a 7" is much more applicable and comfortable to use. Healthcare/hospitals, retail, restaurants, etc would all benefit from a 7" iPad/iTouch. On top of that many consumers going back and forth to work wouldn't need to carry around a bigger iPad and could slip this into a purse or pant/jacket pocket.
On top of that, don't forget that the clothing industry 'designs' around these devices. You'll see everyday jackets, pants, etc with 7" sleeves/pockets for these things.
If the 7" had a great camera/flash/recording on it, even better.
you do not need it, then do not buy it...
there are economies paying a $499 for laptop is expensive, definitely there is a market for $249 to $299 7" Tablet device ...
Too little too late and I call BS anyway.
For instance in the UK.
Ipad 2 starts from £329:
http://store.apple.com/uk/buy/home/shop_ipad/family/ipad/ipad2
iPod Touch from £169:
http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/shop_ipod/family/ipod_touch/select
So JUST HOW is Apple going to price a 7" iPad when it's bottom range iPod Touch costs £10 MORE then the 8GB Nexus 7 tablet:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_7_8gb
If Apple did launch one, then I can only see it costing around £290 in the UK at least, in fact I think it will match the iPad 2's £329 mark.
This IS Apple, Apple do NOT do cheap. So why would anyone get one over the Nexus 7 or the impending Kindle Fire 2?
Personally I am waiting to see what Amazon launch at the end of the end of the month, if the rumours are true, because I'll be getting a kindle Fire 2 7" hopefully, if not then a Nexus 7.
In fact in the UK when Amazon launch the Fire, then Apple IS going to loose sales, especially sales of a 7" iPad. Amazons marketing strength is more then a match, plus it's Kindle range is already VERY well known.
For instance in the UK.
Ipad 2 starts from £329:
http://store.apple.com/uk/buy/home/shop_ipad/family/ipad/ipad2
iPod Touch from £169:
http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/shop_ipod/family/ipod_touch/select
So JUST HOW is Apple going to price a 7" iPad when it's bottom range iPod Touch costs £10 MORE then the 8GB Nexus 7 tablet:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_7_8gb
If Apple did launch one, then I can only see it costing around £290 in the UK at least, in fact I think it will match the iPad 2's £329 mark.
This IS Apple, Apple do NOT do cheap. So why would anyone get one over the Nexus 7 or the impending Kindle Fire 2?
Personally I am waiting to see what Amazon launch at the end of the end of the month, if the rumours are true, because I'll be getting a kindle Fire 2 7" hopefully, if not then a Nexus 7.
In fact in the UK when Amazon launch the Fire, then Apple IS going to loose sales, especially sales of a 7" iPad. Amazons marketing strength is more then a match, plus it's Kindle range is already VERY well known.