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I think the 1B is total $ spent in 9 years. Some for the building(s) that has to be like a fortress, made to survive most acts of god. Some more for connectivity to the internet backbone. Hardware, software, systems management, staff, training, backup generators, wiring, racks, power supplies, fire suppression systems, etc. Thats all before startup. Once in operation, Staff, electricity, systems upkeep, etc. Over 9 years it adds up.

Huh, in case you are not aware, this is 2009 and we have this thing called science. You still consider earthquakes and hurricanes acts of god?
 
It is. My computer chair has a sticker which says they won't replace it if it's destroyed by an act of God.

As far as the server farm goes... holy cow that's a lot of money.
 
if its primarly for itunes services then its safe to say there will be a lot of netapp gear in there.

Considering that the entire itunes store is backed by netapp storage right now :)
 
iPhone Video Uploads

Next month's iPhone will have highly usable Flip-style video recording, sparking a new trend of recording and uploading, handing a bonanza to YouTube ... unless ... unless Apple provide an upload service of their own.

The iPhone has given Apple a new lease of life and, now, they are going to use it to leapfrog YouTube as the leading destination for user-generated video. YouTube is not for sale and no amount of money could compete with it's dominance but the iPhone + one billion dollars would change the game.

One billion is chicken-feed in terms of playing at that level, and Apple would much rather leverage their existing advantages, such as the iPhone, to create rather than acquire a leading online destination.

This makes massively more sense than Apple buying Twitter.
 
This could be for a variety of reasons:
  • Data backup/redundancy.
  • More capacity for iTMS.
  • Improved MobileMe.
  • A new foray into Cloud storage.

And it's got Tier 1 access to the Backbone, and it would also give Apple some nice linkages with East Coast high-tech institutions and universities as well, from which Apple could draw talent and expertise. Several interesting networking/high tech clusters have been forming at various points along the East Coast and into even into the Appalachian Region during the last few decades.

The map below dates from 2002, taken from a study done during that period by the University of North Carolina. There's been good growth since that time -- Google has AI research in PA, Northern Virginia data centers are beginning to overflow into the area southward along I-81, various government computing centers are in North Central West Virginia, VaTech has its supercomputing center @ Blacksburg, Google is building new data center in N.C., and so on...
 

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Message #49 has a backbone map that is instructive. Apple bought Worldcom's telco center in BK which is suitable for current needs.

As traffic increases latency becomes an issue and East Coast and Western European latency is poor from a San Francisco server farm.

Google wanted to locate in OK (see map) since that locale allowed privacy of power usage so competitors could not know precisely how much power they were using.

NC has that feature. Apple is focused on power efficiency, servers included, and has the capital to increase cloud capacity ten to thirty fold between processor, storage, and pipe efficiency improvements.

Nortel and its subsequents have three times as much cross country fiber as is already lit. I want Apple to buy dark fiber, establish server farms in 5 geographic sites worldwide and deliver a 5x cloud power efficiency while providing a 10x throughput benefit.

More revenue, within power delivery growth plans and screw Gore, we need everywhere and fast connectivity more than we need glaciers and forests, don't we?

Hum?

:D

Rocketman
 
And it's got Tier 1 access to the Backbone, and it would also give Apple some nice linkages with East Coast high-tech institutions and universities as well, from which Apple could draw talent and expertise.
Agree.

This not only provides Apple a venue to talent, but also provides talent a venue to work in the high tech arena that does not involve living in California in the Silicon Valley area.
 
Agree.

This not only provides Apple a venue to talent, but also provides talent a venue to work in the high tech arena that does not involve living in California in the Silicon Valley area.

That's sometimes a factor... Google opened a R&D facility in Pittsburgh, PA in 2005 primarily because they couldn't talk the people they wanted to hire into moving.

... More revenue, within power delivery growth plans and screw Gore, we need everywhere and fast connectivity more than we need glaciers and forests, don't we?
...

Perhaps a little "balance" is in order? ;)
 
In the iPhone 3.0 Keynote Scott Forstall mentioned the amount of scalability they had to build into the app store just for version 2.0 of the app kit. With iPhone 3.0 adding in app purchases amoung other things I would imagine that those would call for a whole lot more capacity on the servers especially when you factor in millions more iPhone and iPod touch users.
 
And it's got Tier 1 access to the Backbone, and it would also give Apple some nice linkages with East Coast high-tech institutions and universities as well, from which Apple could draw talent and expertise. Several interesting networking/high tech clusters have been forming at various points along the East Coast and into even into the Appalachian Region during the last few decades.

The map below dates from 2002, taken from a study done during that period by the University of North Carolina. There's been good growth since that time -- Google has AI research in PA, Northern Virginia data centers are beginning to overflow into the area southward along I-81, various government computing centers are in North Central West Virginia, VaTech has its supercomputing center @ Blacksburg, Google is building new data center in N.C., and so on...

This got SkyNet all over it! I hope they make it because then we can go to iHell like one, big happy family. What a cozy feeling! :D
 
iTunes content worldwide?

What if this new server farm also allows them do deliever iTunes Store content (HD videos and TV shows) worldwide? They would need a huge capacity to be able to deliver said content worldwide. Maybe that server farm will be built for that.

But this is just speculation/hope on my part. Maybe it would just make sense to build smaller ones worldwide to be able to achieve the goal. Don't know if it makes any difference if the center is built in the US or elsewhere in terms of download speed...

I think that a billion USD is a lot of money, so this center has to be strategic for Apple and I doubt it will just serve one purpose (iPhone App Store). I think it is meant for more things, one of them is iTunes content in general.

Ok, back to work (even on sunday...)...
 
We already have green energy

Ah Phooey,

Them inspiration smoking greenies are always getting in the way of science.

We already got a green source of energy, atomic fission.
If you argue otherwise you probably never payed attention in school, or when you were in school this stuff was still in R&D :)

The earth is naturally radioactive. So is the universe. ALL types of radiation can be blocked by a few centimetres of lead, or 1m of concrete or 30m of steel. Its merely political BS about where the rods are stored longterm.

What about Chernobyl?

Wa Wa Wa,
Talk about Media hype.
They were doing a test to see if the reactor could shut down safely. The reactor was acting up and should of been shut off before the test was finished. The guy in charge was being a prick. Guess what! Chernobyl was human error. Guess what!!!! We have computers and decent non Microsoft operating systems.

Fusion is the answer? Its cheaper yes, but it still produces Gamma and Neutron radiation so were still gonna get some more greenies complaining. :mad:

Related to the server farm...

Ooooh its so pretty :apple:

I hope I can work for Apple in the future.
 
Where is Michael Dell's Dell mkt cap? Anyone else who is a Windows user and bashes the Apple fanboys, better check above numbers and see what is considered a successful company. I would not be surprised that Microsofts number will only go down hill some more.

:eek:

Yeah at $20Bn Dell is immaterial ;)
 
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themacintoshman said:
hopefully this will improve speed of itunes store and the apple online store

I hope that it will improve download speeds of updates on the release day. Large updates have been known to crawl when they are released so hopefully a new server farm can be used to split the demand.

On another note, I wonder how many new jobs this will create. Usually companys only get a tax break like this if they are going to employ people locally so that they spend money and the city gets their money back through sales tax and property tax.
 
I used to have a hotmail account which I have not used in about 8 years or more. I remember things that people sent and never got there. This has happened several times with Hotmail and thus, I stopped using it.

Is it just me or did someone else also had the experience of things disappearing or not getting there with Hotmail?

I've had a hotmail account for a while and have not had any problems.
 
If Jobs has any say in it, I'm pretty sure that it would run on Xserves. At least on several occasions in past, Apple showed that they often "eat their own dog food". Why actually usability of their products doesn't suck as much as of rest of the industry.

Apple also uses others peoples technology as posts number 57 & 69 point out. And they did this on Job's watch. He knows they don't have the products to run massive database servers. At least the servers are out of site from the user. Apple has been using Windows based POS systems in their stores.
 
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