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Apple Planning to Debut OLED iPhone in 2017

JayIsAwesome said:
Can't wait for that OLED iPhone. And Samsung's flagship devices have better displays than Apple's phone. Personally I don't see how anybody with atleast decent vision could dispute that. But everybody is entitled to an opinion. Oh man, there's a really good chance that I'm gonna get yelled at for this post
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I'm not going to yell at you. *hugs*
 
Max(IT) said:
NO ONE ?!?! ARE YOU SERIOUS ???
Should I link you all the post in the last weeks where resident bashers have described the iPhone 's display as "ridiculous and pathetic" ?


How many users have been suspended because they called me fanboy or troll just because Im not impressed by Samsung's products ?


That's EXACTLY what I'm saying.
I.AM.NOT.IMPRESSED.
Samsung keep using a display that's gorgeous to see but use a technology where one color wears off faster than others PLUS it uses a ridiculous PenTile matrix I ACTUALLY HATE, masked by an high resolution.
YES.
IM TOTALLY NOT IMPRESSED BY IT AND I DONT WANT IT ON MY NEXT IPHONE.
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Dude why you yelling?
CurryPanda said:
I'm not going to yell at you. *hugs*
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Awww :)
 
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JayIsAwesome said:
Dude why you yelling?
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because I'm tired to repeat the same things, and being called fanboy just because I don't worship Samsung and its gimmicks...
People keep repeating that Samsung's OLED have higher resolution: I KNOW IT !
But they still ignore the fact that they keep using a poorly designed PenTile Matrix and OLED is a technology where sub pixels wears off in a different way.
Am I entitled to hate a similar solution ?

Yes, I will buy the iPhone "8" even if it will sports an OLED display, because I still prefer an iOS device over ANY Android, but I will not be happy about it nevertheless.
 
Max(IT) said:
because I'm tired to repeat the same things, and being called fanboy just because I don't worship Samsung and its gimmicks...
People keep repeating that Samsung's OLED have higher resolution: I KNOW IT !
But they still ignore the fact that they keep using a poorly designed PenTile Matrix and OLED is a technology where sub pixels wears off in a different way.
Am I entitled to hate a similar solution ?

Yes, I will buy the iPhone "8" even if it will sports an OLED display, because I still prefer an iOS device over ANY Android, but I will not be happy about it nevertheless.
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If you think people are just speaking to a higher resolution, then you've once again missed the point. We get it. You're not a fan of OLED. That doesn't make it inferior technology in the real world. It just makes it something you don't like or really want in your device.

And this has nothing to do with Samsung as a company. Any "hate" towards Samsung is misplaced. Personally, if LG, Apple, Nokia or whoever was rated #1, I (personally) would still be "arguing" the same thing/vantage point.
 
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samcraig said:
If you think people are just speaking to a higher resolution, then you've once again missed the point. We get it. You're not a fan of OLED. That doesn't make it inferior technology in the real world. It just makes it something you don't like or really want in your device.

And this has nothing to do with Samsung as a company. Any "hate" towards Samsung is misplaced. Personally, if LG, Apple, Nokia or whoever was rated #1, I (personally) would still be "arguing" the same thing/vantage point.
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You are completely, totally end continuously ignoring my point about a PenTile matrix and OLED decay over time... Those are FACTS, not opinion. Incidentally you own a Samsung phone using the same technology, thus your defense...

I only hope if those rumors about Apple using OLED in the future are going to be true, they chose a full RGB matrix in place of that messy Samsung actually use. I would still be sad about an OLED iPhone, but at least I would appreciate the screen when brand new.
 
Max(IT) said:
You are completely, totally end continuously ignoring my point about a PenTile matrix and OLED decay over time... Those are FACTS, not opinion. Incidentally you own a Samsung phone using the same technology, thus your defense...

I only hope if those rumors about Apple using OLED in the future are going to be true, they chose a full RGB matrix in place of that messy Samsung actually use. I would still be sad about an OLED iPhone, but at least I would appreciate the screen when brand new.
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I'm not ignoring it. It's irrelevant. No one but you is discussing decay over time. Why? Because that's not what we were discussing. I own several mobile devices - only one of which is Samsung. So you can think what you want.

Have a lovely day/night.
 
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samcraig said:
I'm not ignoring it. It's irrelevant. No one but you is discussing decay over time. Why? Because that's not what we were discussing. I own several mobile devices - only one of which is Samsung. So you can think what you want.

Have a lovely day/night.
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Still ignoring ridiculous PenTile matrix.... Your motivations are clear enough to me.

You can think what you want, OLED technology still have many drawbacks.
 
Max(IT) said:
Still ignoring ridiculous PenTile matrix.... Your motivations are clear enough to me.

You can think what you want, OLED technology still have many drawbacks.
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How am I ignoring it? Maybe this is a language barrier issue you're having. I can think what I want - you can think what you want. What was being discussed is that people who have written professional reviews believe that the Samsung Screen is superior to the iPhone. No one is saying YOU can't think otherwise. But that doesn't make it a fact. Drawbacks or not. Not relevant.
 
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samcraig said:
How am I ignoring it? Maybe this is a language barrier issue you're having. I can think what I want - you can think what you want. What was being discussed is that people who have written professional reviews believe that the Samsung Screen is superior to the iPhone. No one is saying YOU can't think otherwise. But that doesn't make it a fact. Drawbacks or not. Not relevant.
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People reviewing Samsung screen isn't even mentioning PenTile matrix... They just speak about resolution and colors (not mentioning that on an OLED panel colors are changing over the time)...
I'm not saying they aren't good to see. I'm saying I don't like their drawbacks and I can't understand how you can say ther are not relevant
 
LordVic said:
Ignoring burn in, cause it's not "still an issue".

The Over saturation of Colours that Samsung phones have is actually a software option that can be turned on or off in the settings. On "photo" mode, Samsung's current (As of the S6) AMOLED's are the most accurate displays, and regularly rated as the best mobile displays in the business.

Samsung just defaults their phones to the over saturated mode, and doesn't actively tell users that you can turn it off. You can find this option in the settings menu, under "display", under "Screen mode". With 4 colour options
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Multi-Touch on a phone. Sure, But they purchased the company that was doing it. Apple did not invent multi-touch. The company that was working on Glass Capacitive based multi-touch was named FingerWorks. Once Apple purchased this company in 2005, they ceased all other products that involved gesture based systems, and kept the remainder of the tech exclusively to themselves.

64 bit processors - Sure, Apple was first, but this was also not created in a vacume. The entire industry was already proceeding with development of 64bit CPU's. QualComm had already been rumoured to be working on ARM designed 64bit CPU's. Apple did surprise them though by getting their ARM based 64bit CPU out first.

3D Touch- I'll admit is kind of cool. Haven't looked into much, but "pressure sensitive" interaction isn't super new.

AI on Phone: There is no AI on the phone. So not sure how you mean. In fact, Mankind has yet to actually invent "AI". There has been no legitimate software that has passed the Turing test. If you are referring to Voice dictation and personal assistant? There have been previous version of this tech, which Apple built upon in a nicer way, But has since been eclipsed by others. Like most tech, Apple is not first, They are just really good at innovating refinement.

Touch ID: Not an Apple Invention. Touch-ID was invented by a company called AuthenTec. After a couple of mediocre attempts on other smartphones to implement fingerprint ID recognition, AuthenTec set out to refine a better method, that was better and more reliable. AuthenTec had been working on this fingerprint reader and had been rumoured to have potential deals in place to include their sensor in Samsung, and Motorolla devices. Apple purchased the company outright, and kept the technology exclusively for themselves. This forced Motorola to ditch the fingerprint sensor for that generation (That's apparently why Moto's have the dimple in the back. That was where they were planning the sensor). And Samsung had to resort in the meantime to previous technologies and start from scratch on designing their fingerprint sensor.

I'm not saying here That Apple isn't good at what they do. But don't start giving them credit for stuff they actually didn't do. One of the biggest fallacies that Apple has helped portray is that they are grand inventors. They are not inventors. They are innovators who have taken existing technologies, and packaged them in such ways that look great, and are usably by lots of people.
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It will be significant, but more likely that most people won't really care why. They will just say "it looks better than before!". Similarly, most users of the iPhones say 'its smoother than before'. They don't generally know the exact technological reason why. The numbers "1gb v 2gb" will probably inspire their eyes to glass over and think about cats and their next reddit post for Karma.

All they know. is This generation is better than the previous for what I want to do.
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Where did I say Apple invented it? - we're talking about adoption of newer technology not invention and Apple is right up there.
 
Max(IT) said:
People reviewing Samsung screen isn't even mentioning PenTile matrix... They just speak about resolution and colors (not mentioning that on an OLED panel colors are changing over the time)...
I'm not saying they aren't good to see. I'm saying I don't like their drawbacks and I can't understand how you can say ther are not relevant
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This is going to be my last reply on this. The conversation is an endless loop. The original point was that reviewers were rating the Samsung screen better than the iPhone. That's it. It's a black and white statement. We can all have our opinions, but you can't refute that what reviewers are writing. You can not agree with them. But that doesn't change what they wrote. You keep wanting to throw in all these side comments to try and negate what they wrote. That still won't change their review. That's all.
 
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samcraig said:
This is going to be my last reply on this. The conversation is an endless loop. The original point was that reviewers were rating the Samsung screen better than the iPhone. That's it. It's a black and white statement. We can all have our opinions, but you can't refute that what reviewers are writing. You can not agree with them. But that doesn't change what they wrote. You keep wanting to throw in all these side comments to try and negate what they wrote. That still won't change their review. That's all.
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That's utterly ridiculous.
The original point was the actual quality of the screen, not was written about it.
If the reviewer forgot to mention the obvious drawbacks of OLED technology and a PenTile matrix, that doesn't make the review as correct.
I don't care to negate what they wrote. I pointed out they ignored some important points (Samsung marketing machine ?).
 
samcraig said:
3d touch on the phone - if you discount other OEMs that did it - just with different tech
AI on the phone? No. And it was available as Apps on other phones too
Touch ID - again - if you discount other OEMs implementing it. But that doesn't mean they are "ahead." It just means they matured the product.

Where are you getting your info about OLED manufacturing and why Apple hasn't been able to implement it yet. Pretty sure you're incorrect.
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The comment I responded to stated that Apple is "always" slow to adopt new tech - I provided several examples of Apple being right up to date. I never said Apple was first - I did say that Apples touch Id was best in class when it came out and it was/is. As far as OLED - Apple publicly stated reasons they hadn't used it up to that point - the color accuracy was bad - and it was, life expectancy... Plants are now being built to produce the quantities that Apple requires - this has been reported on - so perhaps I'm wrong (but I've read this elseware so I don't think I am), but I made the assumption because the display companies are building factories to supply Apple that no one has been able to do so until now. Why else would they have to? The point of all this is that Apple had many valid reasons for not adopting OLED, but slowness of adopting new tech is not one of them.
 
samcraig said:
No one is arguing that the iPhone has a good display. Who said it didn't? The discussion was that another OEM has a better one. You can dismiss it as personal opinion - but there are reviewers (some Apple-biased) who disagree with you. They say Samsung's screen is better and give qualitative reasons.

I don't like the term fanboy or troll. And if/when I upvote someone it's not because what they've said is 100 percent something I agree with - but rather overall.

Also - thats NOT what you're saying. You're not JUST saying you're not impressed. You're trying to assert as fact that the Samsung screen is inferior to Apple's. And you don't see why you're being called out on it? Really?
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"Better" is vague; is the 2k display on a Samsung "better"? Depends...

We should be more concerned with "fitness for a specific purpose". That purpose being a 4.5"-5.5" inch display typically viewed at about 12.5"-14" away.

Which display is more "fit" for that use case? Obviously apple believes their ips displays are the best for this application. We can disagree, but simply citing ABSOLUTE specs isn't really an argument; as following that logic an 8k display would be the "best", but clearly overkill and, in practice, actually worse.
 
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"Better" is vague; is the 2k display on a Samsung "better"? Depends...

We should be more concerned with "fitness for a specific purpose". That purpose being a 4.5"-5.5" inch display typically viewed at about 12.5"-14" away.

Which display is more "fit" for that use case? Obviously apple believes their ips displays are the best for this application. We can disagree, but simply citing ABSOLUTE specs isn't really an argument; as following that logic an 8k display would be the "best", but clearly overkill and, in practice, actually worse.
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Wihile I agree with "the right tool for the right job", if the phone costs to you, the end user the exact same price. What would you rather have, 720p or 4k?
 
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LordVic said:
Wihile I agree with "the right tool for the right job", if the phone costs to you, the end user the exact same price. What would you rather have, 720p or 4k?
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720p means I get to use the phone for longer, while 4K looks amazing for the almost no time it takes to drain that sucker dry. :|
 
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samcraig said:
Which part. There is a lot of truth in the 2016 marks the first real "big" year for launching VR mainstream. From amusement parks, to several new consumer devices, to cameras and big media players on board.
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2016 is not the year of VR. There will be VR this year, but it will continue to be a niche thing for more than a few years.
 
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