Apple Planning to Debut OLED iPhone in 2017

[Jsameds]

your outdated, unrelated link is the demonstration of how ridiculous this matter is:

THIS IS NOT, AND SAY AGAIN NOT WHAT IM SEEING ON MY IPHONE'S DISPLAY, unless I look at it from 2/3 cm distance.


Gear VR is gimmick for me, no matter how many times you repeat it.
It could mature over time, maybe, but for now is gimmick.

An NO, DisplayMate isn't "industry standard". It's just a Company that sell calibration tools.
In the past OTHER calibration tools (used by Anandtech for instance) didn't agree with them in the analysis of Galaxy S5's panel.
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So a totally inaccurate display on an uninspiring poorly designed smartphone like the A8 is superior to the iPhone 6 just because they boosted up colors ?
As i said a long time ago you are the perfect target for Samsung.

I still think Samsung display using OLED technology and a crappy pentile matrix aren't something I would like to have on my next iPhone.
My opinion and Im entitled to have one.

Lol - I hate Samsung with a passion, but that doesn't stop me from knowing that their displays are better than iPhone's.

 

[Max(IT)]

Stating that the Gear VR is a gimmick just informs me that you haven't really used one. Oh you might have tried it out in a store. But you haven't spent time with one. Further - I sincerely doubt it's something you could have just simply whipped up in your house. It's not just a Google Cardboard in a fancier shell.

You just don't care about it and are dismissing it because it's not available for iOS. That's what it sounds like to me. I wonder if you would still consider it a "gimmick" if it was readily available to work on iOS.

As for "struggling" - thank you for clarifying. I don't agree with a lot of what you say - but at least you clarified your stance.

I tried it. I spent a little time on it and YES I definitely think it's a gimmick and it isn't something I would like to use THE STATE IT IS AS OF TODAY.
If VR will evolve in a different way, I'd change my position, for sure.

I'm quite sure Apple will use a similar solution only when fully ready to be "productive", as for their policy (Apple hardly is first in something, but they are just "making it better and truly usable" in most of the cases).

As for high PPI panels, VR can't be the motivation, because when VR will be ready for mass distribution actual smartphones will be outdated and useless anyway...

Towing the company line here. It's ok to be wrong, you know. Admitting it on this forum actually gains you credibility whereas here you keep losing it insisting on things that simply aren't true and just your opinion.

I'm not losing any credibility just not worshipping Samsung like many of you are doing here.
Quite on the contrary.

All I'm seeing here are just people speaking about "numbers", not real life experience.
I stand my position: OLED technology has many many drawbacks, especially the Samsung's implementation with a PenTile matrix, and especially considering how OLED sub pixels wears over the time. I don't care about a "4K resolution on a 4.7" display". If Apple will offer me a 400 PPI screen on the iPhone 7, with the same or even better battery life and, more important, the same thermal behavior, without using an OLED display, they are welcomed.

 

[Radon87000]

your outdated, unrelated link is the demonstration of how ridiculous this matter is:

THIS IS NOT, AND SAY AGAIN NOT WHAT IM SEEING ON MY IPHONE'S DISPLAY, unless I look at it from 2/3 cm distance.


Gear VR is gimmick for me, no matter how many times you repeat it.
It could mature over time, maybe, but for now is gimmick.

An NO, DisplayMate isn't "industry standard". It's just a Company that sell calibration tools.
In the past OTHER calibration tools (used by Anandtech for instance) didn't agree with them in the analysis of Galaxy S5's panel.
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So a totally inaccurate display on an uninspiring poorly designed smartphone like the A8 is superior to the iPhone 6 just because they boosted up colors ?
As i said a long time ago you are the perfect target for Samsung.

I still think Samsung display using OLED technology and a crappy pentile matrix aren't something I would like to have on my next iPhone.
My opinion and Im entitled to have one.

Did you even take a close look at those 2 pics and see the screens?I mean even my grandma can see the vibrancy and sharpness of the A8
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Lol - I hate Samsung with a passion, but that doesn't stop me from knowing that their displays are better than iPhone's.

Samsung IS the supplier OF THE OLED displays for Apple

 

[Max(IT)]

Did you even take a close look at those 2 pics and see the screens?I mean even my grandma can see the vibrancy and sharpness of the A8

I can see only an unrealistically boosted display there....

Samsung IS the supplier OF THE OLED displays for Apple

Unless you have personal connections with Tim Cook, you don't know IF Apple will use an OLED display and you don't know if Apple will use Samsung as the supplier.

 

[Jsameds]

And the link is not outdated, the site references the same PPI as iPhone has today in 2016, so you are essentially admitting that iPhone's PPI IS outdated.. Also, you do not see that because iPhone smooths fonts so they don't look as jaggy.

This immediate dismissal by you is the problem here.

And you also said the golden line earlier:

"When Apple will increase the PPI they will do that because of a true advantage or just because the technology will be mature enough to do that without obvious drawbacks."

I've been an Apple fan for long enough to know what this means. It's blind fanboysim and nothing more. I know because I have done exactly the same thing in the past. It's essentially a clause to excuse Apple if they are late to the game. The old "they waited until the technology was ready" or "it's unnecessary and overkill in (INSERT CURRENT YEAR HERE), Apple waited until it was worth doing". Seen it a million times before.
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I can see only an unrealistically boosted display there.....

No you don't. There's a scale, 3mm over two characters it's actually quite large text.
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Samsung IS the supplier OF THE OLED displays for Apple

I just wish Apple would put them in their damn phones then ha

 

[dannys1]

It all depends on distance.

Put a smartphone in a VR headset holder a couple of inches from your eyes, and you need 1800 PPI to be "retina" if you use Apple's definition.

You've got a point there - but I honestly don't ever expect (or want) to use a mobile phone as a VR device.

If I'm ever interested in VR i'd want to do it properly - not with something designed to receive phone calls on. To be honest i'm not particularly interested in VR full stop - and I don't expect the Rift will take off in a mainstream way at all. I'd like to try it, for about 5 minutes - and then go out and have to real realty experiences instead. If you're a hardcore gamer and you don't get motion sick doing it, then go for it - but they won't be doing it on mobile phones either when they need a very powerful gaming rig to run games at frame rates and quality high enough for it to look reasonable.

 

[Max(IT)]

And the link is not outdated, the site references the same PPI as iPhone has today in 2016, so you are essentially admitting that iPhone's PPI IS outdated.. Also, you do not see that because iPhone smooths fonts so they don't look as jaggy.

Nope.
I don't see that BECAUSE I'M NOT LOOKING AT THE SCREEN FROM 2 CENTIMETERS !
That's it.
PPI concept can't be "outdated", because human eyes aren't improving over the time.

And you also said the golden line earlier:

"When Apple will increase the PPI they will do that because of a true advantage or just because the technology will be mature enough to do that without obvious drawbacks."

I've been an Apple fan for long enough to know what this means. It's blind fanboysim and nothing more. I know because I have done exactly the same thing in the past. It's essentially a clause to excuse Apple if they are late to the game. The old "they waited until the technology was ready" or "it's unnecessary and overkill in (INSERT CURRENT YEAR HERE), Apple waited until it was worth doing". Seen it a million times before.
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No you don't. There's a scale, 3mm over two characters it's actually quite large text.

Apple isn't late to the game. They are joining the game when they think the technology is ready, and they are usually right about it.
We have seen it a million times before because they are right (most of the time) and they repeat the process because it's their policy, and a policy I like very much.

 

[samcraig]

And the link is not outdated, the site references the same PPI as iPhone has today in 2016, so you are essentially admitting that iPhone's PPI IS outdated.. Also, you do not see that because iPhone smooths fonts so they don't look as jaggy.

This immediate dismissal by you is the problem here.

To be fair - maybe he's looking at MacRumors on his phone and CAN'T see the difference

 

[Max(IT)]

To be fair - maybe he's looking at MacRumors on his phone and CAN'T see the difference

Actually I'm posting from a 13" MacBook Pro and its "poor" retina display. It's only 227 PPI, would you believe ?

 

[Jvanleuvan]

Except you can distinguish pixels at 326 ppi at normal viewing distances.

My understanding of the matter is at 326ppi the 20/20 distance is 10.5". which seems like pretty normal viewing distance to me.(actually according to this study the average viewing distance is between 14.2" and 12.6") which puts 326ppi ABOVE 20/20 vision and into 20/15 vision even at the closest average viewing distance


Could a little more PPI be useful? perhaps; maybe get that distance down to 8"-9" but I don't need a 4K display on a phone either.

 

[samcraig]

Could a little more PPI be useful? perhaps; maybe get that distance down to 8"-9" but I don't need a 4K display on a phone either.

I think many people would notice. But perhaps I'm wrong. But I'm more interested in 4K screens now because of companion devices like Gear VR.

 

[Radon87000]

your outdated, unrelated link is the demonstration of how ridiculous this matter is:

THIS IS NOT, AND SAY AGAIN NOT WHAT IM SEEING ON MY IPHONE'S DISPLAY, unless I look at it from 2/3 cm distance.


Gear VR is gimmick for me, no matter how many times you repeat it.
It could mature over time, maybe, but for now is gimmick.

An NO, DisplayMate isn't "industry standard". It's just a Company that sell calibration tools.
In the past OTHER calibration tools (used by Anandtech for instance) didn't agree with them in the analysis of Galaxy S5's panel.
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So a totally inaccurate display on an uninspiring poorly designed smartphone like the A8 is superior to the iPhone 6 just because they boosted up colors ?
As i said a long time ago you are the perfect target for Samsung.

I still think Samsung display using OLED technology and a crappy pentile matrix aren't something I would like to have on my next iPhone.
My opinion and Im entitled to have one.

Funny you call OLED inaccurate when the latest leak corroborates many others that there is a 6 inch iPhone with curved OLED in the works.Sound familiar?

And Samsung is the lead supplier of the display panels

 

[Max(IT)]

My understanding of the matter is at 326ppi the 20/20 distance is 10.5". which seems like pretty normal viewing distance to me.(actually according to this study the average viewing distance is between 14.2" and 12.6") which puts 326ppi ABOVE 20/20 vision and into 20/15 vision even at the closest average viewing distance


Could a little more PPI be useful? perhaps; maybe get that distance down to 8"-9" but I don't need a 4K display on a phone either.

CORRECT, and any medic could confirm that.
But Samsung's user are superhuman by definition
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Funny you call OLED inaccurate when the latest leak corroborates many others that there is a 6 inch iPhone with curved OLED in the works.Sound familiar?

And Samsung is the lead supplier of the display panels

Your picture showed me an over saturated screen, so typical by Samsung to drive the wow effect on customers (fortunately last iterations on high end models like the S7 are much better).
Incidentally in the attempt to demonstrate your point you used a screen, the A8 1080P on a 5,7" device, in the same range of the iPhone 's , 300-400 PPI... but with a PenTile matrix, thus clearly inferior
It took them just to pump up saturation to let you think it's a good screen. Samsung is doing that since first iterations

 

[Radon87000]

CORRECT, and any medic could confirm that.
But Samsung's user are superhuman by definition
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Your picture showed me an over saturated screen, so typical by Samsung to drive the wow effect on customers (fortunately last iterations on high end models like the S7 are much better).
Incidentally in the attempt to demonstrate your point you used a screen, the A8 1080P on a 5,7" device, in the same range of the iPhone 's , 300-400 PPI... but with a PenTile matrix, thus clearly inferior
It took them just to pump up saturation to let you think it's a good screen. Samsung is doing that since first iterations

You should read this article written by an Apple fanboy

http://bgr.com/2016/03/09/iphone-6s-vs-galaxy-s7-comparison-ios/

"The Galaxy S7 edge also has me questioning my choice of handset where several key features are concerned. The 2K ultra HD display is so much better than the 720p screen on my iPhone 6s that they’re barely in the same league at this point"

 

[bobob]

This must be a particular sore point for Samsung, the plants are working overtime.

 

[Max(IT)]

You should read this article written by an Apple fanboy

http://bgr.com/2016/03/09/iphone-6s-vs-galaxy-s7-comparison-ios/

"The Galaxy S7 edge also has me questioning my choice of handset where several key features are concerned. The 2K ultra HD display is so much better than the 720p screen on my iPhone 6s that they’re barely in the same league at this point"

you should read it a little better:
I’ll never ditch my iPhone for the Galaxy S7

 

[samcraig]

you should read it a little better:
I’ll never ditch my iPhone for the Galaxy S7

You missed his point entirely. Congratulations.

 

[IGI2]

That's nothing new. It's been like that forever.

Maybe earlier I was just luck to use those Apple apps that were on a decent level (concerning bugs), and now I just happened to use more these bug-filled Apple apps

 

[Max(IT)]

You missed his point entirely. Congratulations.

You missed his point entirely. Congratulations.

 

[samcraig]

You missed his point entirely. Congratulations.

I didn't. His point and others on this thread are to illustrate that the Note 5, and more recent Samsung Phones have superior screens to the current iPhone. He posted BGR's assessment ""The Galaxy S7 edge also has me questioning my choice of handset where several key features are concerned. The 2K ultra HD display is so much better than the 720p screen on my iPhone 6s that they’re barely in the same league at this point"

That was his point. You then tried to move the goalpost by saying the writer would still pick the iPhone. That's irrelevant.

 

[Max(IT)]

I didn't. His point and others on this thread are to illustrate that the Note 5, and more recent Samsung Phones have superior screens to the current iPhone. He posted BGR's assessment ""The Galaxy S7 edge also has me questioning my choice of handset where several key features are concerned. The 2K ultra HD display is so much better than the 720p screen on my iPhone 6s that they’re barely in the same league at this point"

That was his point. You then tried to move the goalpost by saying the writer would still pick the iPhone. That's irrelevant.

What's irrelevant is the screen of the S7. Not to speak about the Note 5, a totally useless device in my opinion.
They could use a 2K ultra mega iper super giga HD display or whatever they want to call it, it doesn't change the fact that isn't the point that make it a better product, since the iPhone' s display remain a good display and human eyes aren't improving over the time.
That is my point, since the beginning.

But people keep calling me fanboy (and you upvoted him) just because I'm saying Im not impressed by Samsung marketing machine.

 

[samcraig]

What's irrelevant is the screen of the S7. Not to speak about the Note 5, a totally useless device in my opinion.
They could use a 2K ultra mega iper super giga HD display or whatever they want to call it, it doesn't change the fact that isn't the point that make it a better product, since the iPhone' s display remain a good display and human eyes aren't improving over the time.
That is my point, since the beginning.

But people keep calling me fanboy (and you upvoted him) just because I'm saying Im not impressed by Samsung marketing machine.

No one is arguing that the iPhone has a good display. Who said it didn't? The discussion was that another OEM has a better one. You can dismiss it as personal opinion - but there are reviewers (some Apple-biased) who disagree with you. They say Samsung's screen is better and give qualitative reasons.

I don't like the term fanboy or troll. And if/when I upvote someone it's not because what they've said is 100 percent something I agree with - but rather overall.

Also - thats NOT what you're saying. You're not JUST saying you're not impressed. You're trying to assert as fact that the Samsung screen is inferior to Apple's. And you don't see why you're being called out on it? Really?

 

[Max(IT)]

No one is arguing that the iPhone has a good display. Who said it didn't? The discussion was that another OEM has a better one. You can dismiss it as personal opinion - but there are reviewers (some Apple-biased) who disagree with you. They say Samsung's screen is better and give qualitative reasons.

NO ONE ?!?! ARE YOU SERIOUS ???
Should I link you all the post in the last weeks where resident bashers have described the iPhone 's display as "ridiculous and pathetic" ?

I don't like the term fanboy or troll. And if/when I upvote someone it's not because what they've said is 100 percent something I agree with - but rather overall.

How many users have been suspended because they called me fanboy or troll just because Im not impressed by Samsung's products ?

Also - thats NOT what you're saying. You're not JUST saying you're not impressed. You're trying to assert as fact that the Samsung screen is inferior to Apple's. And you don't see why you're being called out on it? Really?

That's EXACTLY what I'm saying.
I.AM.NOT.IMPRESSED.
Samsung keep using a display that's gorgeous to see but use a technology where one color wears off faster than others PLUS it uses a ridiculous PenTile matrix I ACTUALLY HATE, masked by an high resolution.
YES.
IM TOTALLY NOT IMPRESSED BY IT AND I DONT WANT IT ON MY NEXT IPHONE.

 

[DoctorKrabs]

I find it really odd that this is even a debate. Apple will only switch to OLED when it has no compromises, meaning they won't give you a screen with anything that OLED may lack compared to an IPS display. That's why it's in 2017.

I'm sure that Apple users will like it regardless of what they think now. They would probably still like 2016 OLED technology if you gave it to them and told them it was 2017 tech.

It's already the clear choice for devices that have 3D Touch since I haven't seen a 6s yet that has had a good backlight because of the added layers between the backlight. Having no backlight solves that issue and improves many other things.

 

[JayIsAwesome]

Can't wait for that OLED iPhone. And Samsung's flagship devices have better displays than Apple's phone. Personally I don't see how anybody with atleast decent vision could dispute that. But everybody is entitled to an opinion. Oh man, there's a really good chance that I'm gonna get yelled at for this post