iMacs are just laptops-on-a-stick. There's no way to fit a desktop GPU in there. Also, no hope for nvidia gpus in Apple products in the foreseeable future, it will be all AMD, largely thanks to nvidia refusing to take OpenCL seriously.
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Surely having to connect a load of peripherals defeats the object of an AIO? Start down this road and you may as well get the impressive Windows 10 setup.
You're going to get kicked off this forum if you don't stop it with the praise. Don't you know the procedure around here? Whenever a new Apple upgrade/product rumor is announced you're supposed to go on some rant about how Apple isn't doing it right, because they aren't making the new product specifically for your needs, or it's priced too high for the hardware, or the ports aren't right, or the ATI GPU is crap, or the Nvidia GPU is crap, or the Intel GPU is crap, or the shade of the aluminum is the wrong color or something.
Far too much positivity on your part, my friend.
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All I want to buy is a gorgeous looking Apple desktop computer.
With a high end i7 Skylake CPU that's runs at the same speeds as it would in a normal Windows PC
Together with a currently hi-ish end for the consumer Nvidia GTX680 Ti graphics card.
A couple of say 512GB SSD's and lets say 16GB or 32GB of DDR4 memory.
And I'd run down the store today and buy one.
that's not an unresonable spec for a brand new upper end Home PC these days, around the £1500 ish mark.
Why cannot/will not apple make this for me?
With a high end i7 Skylake CPU that's runs at the same speeds as it would in a normal Windows PC
Together with a currently hi-ish end for the consumer Nvidia GTX680 Ti graphics card.
A couple of say 512GB SSD's and lets say 16GB or 32GB of DDR4 memory.
And I'd run down the store today and buy one.
that's not an unresonable spec for a brand new upper end Home PC these days, around the £1500 ish mark.
Why cannot/will not apple make this for me?
For sure if the 21-inch model is getting Retina, I'd bet Retina will be standard across the line then - perhaps keep a non-Retina 21-inch model for the entry-level/education market (one that's severely limited like the current 1.4 GHz MBA-in-iMac-casing).
It's not "a load" of peripherals, it's exactly one peripheral. If you have special requirements (and needing 6 TB of memory qualifies as such), you should kind of expect that you need some external devices. On top of that I think data is always better off in an external device anyway.
Being that the entry high end 5k 27" is not much more than the old 21.5" iMac with my educational discount, I'd have to agree. If one could use it in target mode and my changing the resolution would not screw up the experience, yeah I'd jump.
We'll see. Thanks for the insights.
iMac 27" has a desktop CPU. 21.5"'s have, expect the low-end model, a lower TDP desktop CPU.
GPU's have been mobile parts for years, but not always. I just upgarded my mom's iMac 20" 2007 mid, and it has ATI HD2400 XT. That is a desktop GPU. But mostly GPU's have been mobile parts.
What comes to the future 21.5" retina iMac, new Broadwell chips with Iris Pro 6200 will be 65W TDP, but computational power will be at the level of 5k iMac. Iris Pro on Broadwell is somewhere between 750M and AMD M370X depending on software used. I hope new iMac will come with DDR4. [Update: According to Intel's web site, no DDR4 support for i7-5775C]
I suppose internal harddrives are going to be history soon. If you need more space, Apple could say "buy a Time Capsule" or other external HD. Non-retina displays are going to be obsolete also very soon. Apple might keep low-res 21" for couple of years, but all others are going to null [void].
GPU's have been mobile parts for years, but not always. I just upgarded my mom's iMac 20" 2007 mid, and it has ATI HD2400 XT. That is a desktop GPU. But mostly GPU's have been mobile parts.
What comes to the future 21.5" retina iMac, new Broadwell chips with Iris Pro 6200 will be 65W TDP, but computational power will be at the level of 5k iMac. Iris Pro on Broadwell is somewhere between 750M and AMD M370X depending on software used. I hope new iMac will come with DDR4. [Update: According to Intel's web site, no DDR4 support for i7-5775C]
I suppose internal harddrives are going to be history soon. If you need more space, Apple could say "buy a Time Capsule" or other external HD. Non-retina displays are going to be obsolete also very soon. Apple might keep low-res 21" for couple of years, but all others are going to null [void].
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Apple used to be the "artists" computer. They catered to the art community of graphic designers, photogs & filmmakers. Their desktops were powerful and lasted years. But ever since the shift to iOS devices, Apple has neglected their original base. Long delays between desktop & laptop releases which end up being underpowered. Heck, the Mac Pro doesn't even have a 4k or 5k Cinema Display to go with it yet! As one of those artists who was an apple user before the iOS revolution, I miss those days when Apple used to pay more attention to its "power users".
The ironic thing is that now that the masses have switched to the iOS world, and many are not buying desktops or even laptops anymore...it would behoove Apple to rekindle it's love for the artists & power users and target their desktops & laptops to those groups once again.
The ironic thing is that now that the masses have switched to the iOS world, and many are not buying desktops or even laptops anymore...it would behoove Apple to rekindle it's love for the artists & power users and target their desktops & laptops to those groups once again.
Sales don't prove your assumption.
For any kind of artistic work, iMac is good enough. Its for DTP, graphics, wordprocessing, drawing, etc.
If you want video work, MacPro is ready or even Macbook Pro.
Music can be done even on Macbook Air.
What else is left of artistic?
Could I suggest you run down to your nearest Windows store today, purchase your spec Windows machine and when you get it home put an Apple logo on it. That's the only way you're likely to get what you want I'm afraid.
Yep, this is me, my 2010 17 inch Macbook Pro is on it's last legs. I don't need all day battery life, I need a portable 17 inch retina. If it has 4 hours of battery life, excellent. If not, I'll just plus put it in. In fact, I would not hesitate to buy one with no battery. Confidentially keeps me from using my computer on planes and I rarely work in the park, but I do need a portable real computer that is has good graphics and is somewhat efficient for database and numerical processing.
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Let's see if Apple will deliberately cripple the base models again with ridiculously slow 5400rpm HDD's.
I don't understand this attitude. The base models are made for price sensitive people that don't require the higher performance. As long as Apple offers SSD and higher rpm spinners as options, what is the problem? Just buy the upgrade.
If you don't want the higher price for the better reliability and integration, then go back to Windows OS and hardware. There you get your lower price, higher performance. Just make sure you do the research for the correct hardware and software. Most people I know think a few extra 100's for not having to do this research and take the associated risk is worthwhile. If you don't then don't.
My 2007 iMac had a 7200rpm HDD. All base iMacs came with 7200rpm drives until 2012. Then, for some unfathomable reason, Apple decided to go backwards and cripple them with 5400rpm disks. And prices did not come down as a result.
If you think that's cool, I don't know what to say.
Like it or not, Retina is the future. And if you've ever used it, you know what a difference it makes.
Go for it, unless the 21.5" form factor is very important to you.
I haven't seen any rumors that said Apple couldn't do 4K on the upcoming TV.
Plenty of price sensitive people will buy the base model and be disappointed with the performance. Even for basic tasks, a 5400 RPM HDD will cause noticeable slowdown when running Yosemite.