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Apple Plans iPhone-to-Windows Copy and Paste in EU After Microsoft Request
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szw-mapple fan
macrumors 68040
Yes that’s true, but the nature of handoff means the clipboard content is synced between iOS and macOS and vice versa. Hopefully that means that because macOS clipboard has to be synced to iOS it also works when you paste into Windows (even if it’s using the iOS device as an intermediary).
Look at the things in the EU you can't have, because of the idiotic European Commission. Apple isn't always right, like with the lightning connector versus USB-C, but more often the bureaucrats on the EC know nothing, NOTHING, about what they are regulating. It's not just consumer electronic devices either, and the EC will use a sledgehammer when a fly swatter will do.
3.5mm jacks were a miniaturized version of the larger jacks of the same type that had been around since the early 1900s, at least, for use in telephone switching, and 3.5mm jacks were around long before iPhones or even Apple. 3.5mm jacks weren't "invented to prevent platform lock-in and to improve device interoperability." They aren't new, not by a long shot.
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It's so pathetic that such a garbage piece of crap OS has infested so much of the world like an incurable cancer.
Thats why I included it in my list of open industry standards designed to prevent lock-in 🙂
ThailandToo
macrumors 65816
I like industry standards much better than Apple’s lock in BS. That’s my point. I like the EU looking out for consumers as NOBODY ELSE WILL.
The EU looks out for itself, especially in areas where it has nothing comparable to compete with, like say, personal computers, and mobile phones, and tablets, and....you get the idea.
ThailandToo
macrumors 65816
Didn’t Steve Jobs say FaceTime would be a standard? WTH happened?
The root cause of its inability to compete is a cross between the platform lock-in of US tech companies and all the good European ones getting bought up and ran into the ground by companies from the US. Imagine what phone design would look like had Nokia pivoted to Android and never been bought by Microsoft.
In the 90s/00s Windows and Mac didn't require this level of heavy-handed politics because both OSes are still open platforms and can still be wiped by Linux. Phones are not only a neccessity for everyday life in the 21st Century but both OS platforms are tightly controlled by two companies who exchange that much cash with each other it may as well be a duopoly.
If saw a company trying to release a third OS/App ecosystem entirely on their own hardware in the west right now you'd think they were nuts. Phones are not open platforms. I can't just set up a digital storefront and compete.
3.5mm jacks were NOT designed to prevent lock in. And are NOT new, not by a long shot.
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No, it’s because Europe just can’t compete. Not in this space anyway. Oh and Nokia? You’e going to blame Microsoft? Or are you going to blame Nokia for selling out? Was a gun held to their head?
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Any industry standards is by it's very nature designed to prevent lock-in on some level. I don't recall ever being able to use my Lightning Earpods on an Android phone.
Intense lock-in actually goes against everything European business stands for. The EEC worked to ratify cross-border standards like SCART and GSM to make exports easier between member states. All the big carriers tend to be continental. (Telefonica etc)
Raspberry Pi launched with an open architecture in mind. ARM is an architecture designed to work on multiple processors. Spotify never released proprietary software.
Nokia did what they thought was best for them at the time. Windows Phone 7 was miles ahead of iOS and Android at launch and was largely killed by Google withholding it's apps and services (which it never did to it's best pal Apple) It made sense from a business point of view.
Apple and Google are far too entrenched for a challenger from anywhere else on the planet to compete on any level. If they could, they would be already.
surferfb
macrumors 68030
Harmony was a neccessity after Google pulled GApps support for Huawei the behest of the US State. I won't dwell on the politics of it all but it looked for a minute there they would supplant Samsung as the Android poster child. Man, the P30 Pro.....
In any case Harmony gradually evolved from Android but had a captive audience of over 1bn people. Every other chinese OEM uses Android.
surferfb
macrumors 68030
Honestly, I think it's a folly to assume that Apple and Google are unable to be toppled. History is full of companies that everyone thought were unbeatable but then got disrupted. Kodak, Nokia, GM, IBM, Intel, Blockbuster, etc.
I agree that in a universe where the smartphone remains the primary means of computing then it is unlikely someone beats Google or Apple in the short term, but I definitely think there is a universe where the smartphone isn't as central to life as it is today - and it may be sooner than we think.
Or maybe a phoneOS designed from the ground up around AI will be as revolutionary as the iPhone being designed from the ground up around always-on access to the internet was, and Apple can't pivot and ends up looking like Nokia. Or the ability for everyone to create custom apps with AI ends up massively disrupting App Stores and paid-for software and so Apple no longer is making the insane amount of services revenue they have been and can't react.
No, because back when those types of jacks were created, there was no tech industry, telephones were new, and there was nothing else competing with it, and the concept of "lock in" didn't exist with telephony.
The 3.5mm jack evolved from the 6.35mm (¼-inch) telephone-switchboard plug which was developed in 1878 by Charles Scribner. In the 1950s they were used with with transistor radios, for monaural single earphone pieces, and the mega popular Sony Walkman used them when they were released beginning in 1979 (I got my first Sony Walkman in 1982 when my grandparents came back from a trip to Asia). No, they were not created to "prevent lock in", they just existed, and everyone accepted them as the standard over time. Also, companies back then weren't as greedy and didn't think like Apple and Google do today. The first real hard core "lock-in" began with Sony, when they refused at first to license their Betamax VCR U-Loading transport technology (which was based on Sony's 3/4 inch U-Matic professional video cassette standard). On the other hand, JVC, who invented the technologically inferior VHS format, DID license the VHS M-Loading transport technology to other manufacturers.
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The AI bubble is going to burst, and when it does, it's going to burst HARD. It's itching for a downfall already, reminiscent of the .com bust back in the early 2000s.
surferfb
macrumors 68030
I don't disagree that there's a bubble, but just like the .com bust didn't end the internet, an AI burst isn't going to end AI. It's far, far too useful of a tool.
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
Correct as things move along ai will be a commodity, not a tech which a few hold hostage in their hands.
Abazigal
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Sadly, a lot of folks are too young to remember the vicious VHS-vs.-Betamax dispute. My dad bought both, a portable Sony Betamax player and a similar Montgomery Wards (!) VHS along with a camera. Picture quality from Beta was superior so any OTA recordings were done on that. VHS was reserved for playback of rentals or stuff we borrowed from the library.
Probably you never heard of it, but the very superior video standard of that time was Video 2000 by Philips, which was also mangled by VHS, because it was a little too late to the market. Still, feature and quality wise, it was the best...