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Their advantageous financial position comes almost exclusively from the iPhone. Everything else they make is a distant second at best.
On the shoulders of Giants, friend.

The iPhone was actually an offshoot of the internal iPad project, itself a skunkworks project developed under Jobs' very nose. (See: here) They only pivoted because phones were starting to eat into its music player market.

Had the iPod never have taken off and remained a niche collectors item, Apple would have continued to develop the iPad as a tablet. It would likely have enjoyed a direct touchscreen port of MacOS instead of launching as a big iPhone. Apple would have remained as a computer manufacturer and thats it.

Touchscreens on phones were already headed to all-display as evidenced by the siloed development of the LG Prada which launched months before the iPhone. But at the time BBM was king amongst teens and the QWERTY keyboard a necessity for firing them off. The first Android phone prototype aped the Blackberry because it was the leading device in the US at the time and only pivoted because of the iPhone's success.

Had the iPhone never launched on the back of the iPod's success, Android would have kept with the Blackberry chassis and helped to further codify it. We'd likely be looking at a very different phone market, one where RIM and Nokia are probably top of the pile. As services like BBM became more central to the devices, we would likely have a WeChat-like system in the west where everything revolves around IM plugins rather than dedicated Apps.

We can then only speculate as to what the butterfly effects of all this would be. Maybe Silicon Valley slowly dies off as investment pours into Ontario and Helsinki? Maybe Apple remain a niche computer manufacturer whose failing fortunes result in them being acquired by Microsoft? Had IM become the communication standard for teens (and by extension adults) would social media have ever gained a foothold?

We'll never know but its fun to speculate!
 
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Now, if I could only use screen mirroring on my Mac in the EU instead of a feature I never wanted in the first place 😂. But yeah, make it easier for one gatekeeper to get data from another gatekeeper instead of allowing to use a device from the same manufacturer…
That is more of an Apple deliberately withholding features to try and get one over the EU...
 
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I’m digging deep into my Hopium stash and believe this is the first domino in the chain that ultimately leads to iPhone Mirroring coming out for us
 
I’m digging deep into my Hopium stash and believe this is the first domino in the chain that ultimately leads to iPhone Mirroring coming out for us
The irony is that they could happily build it into Windows as its a 3rd party OS. What the EU want is for Apple to allow Android mirroring on the Mac so that one particular platform is not favoured over another. I could never understand the opposition to such a move from the forum myself.
 
This is ridiculous. This is an incredibly difficult feat to pull off securely and privately. Why should Apple and its users have to pay for this when it’s MS who wants it so badly?

Everyone wants to be in the Apple ecosystem without having to pay for it. EU has lost the damned plot.
 
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Everyone wants to be in the Apple ecosystem without having to pay for it. EU has lost the damned plot.
Who, exactly, is using the Apple Ecosystem without paying for it? Clearly, either the sender or the recipient of the transmitted information paid for their Mac or iPhone and is using it.

Are you saying that to interact with an Apple device, everyone should have to pay a fee for the privilege?
 
Seriously though, how does FOSS fit in here? Is there a way for FOSS organizations to interface with "gatekeepers" to get FOSS software and devices to interoperate with commercial counterparts?
It is possible, but you probably need an established organization to advocate/lobby for you and present the case to the European Commission.

A few days ago the Open Home Foundation (owner of the Home Assistant project) published a detailed report how they managed to wrangle some technical concessions from Google/Android that will hopefully benefit their users very soon.
 
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Unfortunately yes, I suffering on my Windows PC at work right now, but the constant issues keep our vast IT department employed, so nothing will change.
It always piques my interest when people say this. I'm an IT support person for dozens of companies and rarely do I have to do any support due to Windows. Actually, I rarely have to do any support. I guess it comes down to the equipment purchased and how well Windows was setup by your IT department.
 
Maybe you should sit down before I tell you that magnitudes more people use Windows than macOS. 71% use Windows vs. 20% macOS. So, yes, people still use Windows.
Lol. Yes, it was sarcasm. I'm actually surprised it's only 71%. (maybe that is just in the US - it's something I could easily look up)
 
That is more of an Apple deliberately withholding features to try and get one over the EU...
No, it’s not. The idea that Apple thinks that withholding that one feature will get the EU to relent when accepting their demands on so many others is laughable.

I honestly don't think there is a way to do iPhone mirroring that is DMA compliant AND protects users' privacy to Apple's standards. Now you can look at that and think "Apple's standards are too high" and that's fine, but the idea that Apple is just withholding the feature to "get one over EU" when they've spent hundreds of millions of dollars and made changes to so many other aspects of their OS to comply just doesn't hold water.

Did you think Apple is "deliberately withholding features" because they withdrew Advanced Data Protection rather than comply with the UK's attempt to break encryption? Or do you think "Apple can't comply with that law, so they obviously needed to remove the feature."

Why are you so convinced that Apple could find a way to give third-party hardware complete and total access to a user's iPhone, without requiring physical access to unlock the device, without knowing the security features of said hardware, and keep their users safe?

It’s the case of the EU demanding Apple do something that’s technically impossible to do safely to Apple’s standards (or maybe more likely; impossible to do safely at a price that makes the ROI of the engineering effort worth it).
 
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It's "ah", not "ha". In Europe.
ah ah ah. What am I the count? ha ha ha.

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consider the cost of developing this capability (an opportunity cost), in that apple could be using those resources to develop other capabilities ( or fixing perceived shortcomings in other products) - yes there costs associated with developing this capability but its less clear who will pay the costs
 
Why are you so convinced that Apple could find a way to give third-party hardware complete and total access to a user's iPhone, without requiring physical access to unlock the device, without knowing the security features of said hardware, and keep their users safe?
Not what I am arguing for. Just better interoperability, like being able to reply to a text message, or indeed connect. I am sorry if you don't want increased usability, and feel like you are being forced to use something non-apple (hint you aren't)
 
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I know this is controversial but... I truly hope Apple finds a way to give Microsoft a taste of their own medicine, and be able to give them the capability technically but in a way that is utterly useless to them (same thing Microsoft continues to do to every competitor to Office by using "open" formats in a way only their product can work.
 
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