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Regardless of what you think about Trump, I think this is really great. Bringing jobs and manufacturing back to the USA can only be a good thing for the country.

They'll likely have to hire dozens to ensure the thousands of robots work properly.

Can you say "re-election?"
 
I'm not going to rant and rave about this like others. I'll just state something simple.

JOBS = JOBS And it's about time, Apple. Don't let the Trump Hysteria get in the way of doing something good regardless.

I have an issue of MacWorld back when Steve Jobs was bragging about the first state of the art U.S. Apple Macintosh manufacturing plant and giving tours of how high tech it was and all American jobs. Let's get back to that regardless of Trump hysteria.

And finally, this wouldn't be possible without Trump trying to go after companies hiding money abroad to not pay US taxes. The Europeans and Chinese are tough on this. It's about time the US is too. So for that 1 thing, I applaud Trump, that is, IF, he ever can do it against all the SWAMP lobbyists who are against this.

The fact that Apple is even willing to take this aggressive step against all political correctness is to be applauded.

Since most people I know hate Trump, this is my response. You don't have to change your opinion.
Just don't cut off a hand in order to save a finger.

I can appreciate your view but I have to take exception with the whole "swamp" mantra.

Trump has loaded up his cabinet with SWAMP lobbyists, industry stooges, and the same Wall Street insiders he railed (not really an apt description for his incoherent vocalizations, but you know what I mean) in his never ending campaign trail.

He's such a blowhard and total liar about literally everything that he has zero credibility. When he's not lying, he's shockingly uninformed. His boundless ego virtually guarantees failure -- people won't tie themselves to him anymore when the water starts pouring over the deck and they realize he's a 10,000 pound anchor and not a helium balloon.

If he wasn't such a dolt, he might have actually been able to do some things that could probably use new perspective. But unfortunately, he's an idiot through and through. Wait until tomorrow for another affirmation.
 
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The face when you're trying to make sure an orange guy doesn't single-handedly destroy your company, Apple-soon-to-be-Thinness Incorporated
 
I assume the plants will go up right after that wall and the trillion dollar infrastructure bill are done. I'll want and see what Apple has to say about it, as they aren't known to be habitual exaggerators, and Trump lost me the minute he said "beautiful." Also, if this project happens (or even exists) there's almost no way it happens without an incredible tax break, so don't look at this as a huge windfall for the country.

cook has been talking about this for a while. it has little to nothing to do with Trump. as for tax breaks, well yeah that's a possible factor. especially in exactly where they go.
 
I wonder if they will be powered by coal?
They're actually going to mine the coal, then use nukes on it to create diamond screens, since the sapphire didn't really work out. Don't worry though, it's clean coal.
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I would be surprised if the United States has any capability manufacturing any kind of consumer electronics, much less sophisticated ones with components sourced in Asia.

More likely these big factories will be manufacturing silicone cases, data cables, and screen protectors.
It's real challenge because it's not only the cheap labor, it's all the ancillary businesses specializing in every kind of technical thing you want. You need some process that fuses a miniature power amplifier to ribbon cable or something? There is literally some company down the street in a China that can do that. Here that thing might be more difficult (or impossible) to find, will take a lot longer, and cost a lot more.

I can maybe see these "plants" (if they exist) doing something more like final assembly of parts shipped from overseas, for the items sold here since they need to end up here anyway.
 
Giving companies tax breaks to create jobs. We tried it over here in Europe. And guess what? It doesn't work.

- countries start to compete with better offerings to attract companies.
- companies expect the tax cuts to be permanent, even demanding almost 0% tax.
- when companies get a better deal somewhere (and they always will) they pack up and move. With the tax cuts in their pocket. And the countries are left with paying the unemployed and cleaning up the site.

Not saying this would be the case with Apple. But you need much more than a tax break to create a sustainable economy model.

But Trump probably knows all about that. /* just kidding.
 
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Foxconn already has replaced 60.000 people with robots. They have the capacity to produce 10.000 robots every year.
I'm sure American people are gonna love the "Assembled in USA" sticker, and even pay a premium for it.
But an assembly plant that today is just in the planning phase, is gonna be 100% robots once finished.
I think its hilarious that Trump is gonna give Apple huge tax cuts to have some stuff "Assembled in USA by robots assembled in China".
 
It's not a case of building "three big plants" and then send in a few locals.

The Chinese manufacturing industry is bespoke, years of development and training.

I will not buy an iPhone built by Trump.
 
Foxconn already has replaced 60.000 people with robots. They have the capacity to produce 10.000 robots every year.
I'm sure American people are gonna love the "Assembled in USA" sticker, and even pay a premium for it.
But an assembly plant that today is just in the planning phase, is gonna be 100% robots once finished.
I think its hilarious that Trump is gonna give Apple huge tax cuts to have some stuff "Assembled in USA by robots assembled in China".

Not to mention the immigration of Chinese experts to install and run the machines. Luckily they can fly over the wall :)
 
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Wait...is this the Onion?
I've had to ask that seemingly everyday since he became president
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Show me a flattering image of Donald Trump from the past 25 years.

You can't. Because it doesn't exist.

It's also hard to report positive news when there is none. The Wall Street Journal is owned by NewsCorp FFS.
That's like asking for a flattering picture of a piece of poop
 
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I thought my reply to the original comment was pretty clear, but I'll try to explain it again. Not so much a "beef" as much as a prediction based on what the the poster I replied to said. Mac PRO (made in USA) = Overpriced and never updated. Other products soon to be made in USA in 3 new factories = Overpriced and never updated.

It was a prediction. No beef.

Well it does seem like a beef. If you were honest with yourself you'd see it too. Your criticism or observation, however you want to spin it, is that because the MP is made in the U.S. it's overpriced and not updated. But he MP would be just as expensive if it were made in China or Mexico or Shangri-la. The MP's price is Apple Pricing. It's consistent throughout the product line. Every thing they sell is "overpriced" compared to competing products. It has ZERO to do with the fact it's made in the U.S. yet you want to blame the MP's failures on the fact it's made in the U.S.

The Mac mini isn't made in the U.S. and hasn't been updated in 3 years. The iMac isn't made in the U.S. and until a few months ago it wasn't updated for two years. The iPad Pro 12.9 isn't made in the U.S. and it wasn't updated for 1.5 years. The Apple Watch isn't made in the U.S. and it's only been tangentially updated since it's launch in 2015. Add in the aging MBA and iPhone SE.
 
You guys are letting your politics get in the way of technical issues.

Apple already assembles iPhones in India and Brazil. It's not rocket science. It's not "close to component suppliers." It's about money and willpower.

Almost anything is possible when you have enough money. Apple has more than enough money to do anything it would like to do. Apple's problems today are due to the lack of tools to manage the infinite number of product-related decisions.
 
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You guys are letting your politics get in the way of technical issues.

Apple already assembles iPhones in India and Brazil. It's not rocket science. It's not "close to component suppliers." It's about money and willpower.

Almost anything is possible when you have enough money. Apple has more than enough money to do anything it would like to do. Apple's problems today are due to the lack of tools to manage the infinite number of product-related decisions.

No, Apple's problem is the "Tools in the Executive Team." :apple:
 
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IF this all is true...because Trump...


Sounds great for the US, but the US job market isn't ready for this demand of skills.
I assume that behind the curtains Apple will receive carte blanche to search outside the US for skills as much as they want.
 
No, Apple's problem is the "Tools in the Executive Team." :apple:

I'm a little miffed to pay premium prices for their products and have some of that money lining some crooked politicians pocket. Especially when there are clear signs that Apple is stumbling...

Is Tim Cook like Eric Schmidt, who left a wake of failed businesses behind him? Novell, Sun, etc... He WAS on the board of Apple. He quit because of potential conflict of interest issues with Google.
 
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