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I don’t understand why people are name calling those who are upset about the delay. The demoed features were used to sell the iPhone 16 pro. While I don’t believe in buying a device due to promised future upgrades, I do believe it is a deceptive practice that Apple has been doing for a while. They should not be allowed to get away with that and those of you who sympathize with Apple, you must not have much regard for integrity.
Did you get a iPhone 16 Pro?
 
Although most people *may have* heard about AI, many view it quite negatively. Most probably don’t even know what Apple promised to do or even that it's all that involved. They generally don’t follow tech and don’t care.

For those that do, many think AI is overblown hype, that it offers little, and is unethically and illegally built on stolen intellectual property and improperly obtained material. Others find it useful, in certain domains, but many of them also question its foundations.

The biggest issue, though, which rarely gets mentioned around here, is that AI uses massive amounts of energy and is fast on its way to becoming a substantial contributor to global warming.

All those realities are worth thinking about whenever we use or tout AI.

Hmm…

Wonder if on-device AI is better for the planet. If so, Apple has a new advertising and marketing angle it can promote this fall or in 2026 (!). 😁
 
I'd love new features, if they could make the current ones work properly. Just this past week, as I've done for several years, I asked Siri to "Turn On Entry Lights", and now, instead of turning them on like usual, it plays 'Entry by Hi Light' on Apple Music. WTH?? It's consistent too. Apple, the most cash rich company that can't figure it out. Come on guys - get it together!! Its embarrassing.
 

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For lots of these uses doing it manually is about as easy as using Siri, but I can see one handy use case -- while driving. For example if someone texts you an address you could probably ask Siri to start a route to that address.
 
Although most people *may have* heard about AI, many view it quite negatively. Most probably don’t even know what Apple promised to do or even that it's all that involved. They generally don’t follow tech and don’t care.

For those that do, many think AI is overblown hype, that it offers little, and is unethically and illegally built on stolen intellectual property and improperly obtained material. Others find it useful, in certain domains, but many of them also question its foundations.

The biggest issue, though, which rarely gets mentioned around here, is that AI uses massive amounts of energy and is fast on its way to becoming a substantial contributor to global warming.

All those realities are worth thinking about whenever we use or tout AI.

Hmm…

Wonder if on-device AI is better for the planet. If so, Apple has a new advertising and marketing angle it can promote this fall or in 2026 (!). 😁
On device IS better for the environment, but you can't really make a big deal of that because On device AI isn't doing the same sort of things as server based AI. On device AI works off a relatively tiny amount of data (just what's on your phone) and does a limited amount with that. Apple indexes the phone's data to make it extra easy to do certain sorts of queries/action. Useful, but limited actions on limited data.

I 100% agree that server based "big" AI is a drain on important resources. I think it's good to a limit both because it can help in some unique ways and we have to crawl before we can walk then run in the AI development. But I don't want people using too much right now for the reasons you give.
 
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This is all Tim Cook's fault for firirng Scott Forstall. Siri would be industry-leading had Cook never fired Forstall in 2012. When Siri was integrated into iOS 5 in 2011, it had problems, but Forstall was known for being a perfectionist who, within a reasonably efficient amount of time, would fix software problems that were present at launch.

Cook is so clueless to not see the irreplacable value that Jobs saw in Forstall. Forstall was the most Jobs-like emloyee at Apple, and Clueless Cook was oblivious to that.
 
Don't believe them, nor do I trust the wait would be worth it.

I've been a hardcore Apple fanboy for a decade and a half, and they've had way too many misses lately.

OG Apple Maps and iTunes Ping were not as bad as the Apple of late.
 
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Don’t do us any favors, Apple. Just kill the AI project now. It’ll never be activated on any of my devices anyway.

Oh, you think Apple’s going to give you an option to deactivate it? How cute!
 
have yet to find a normal consumer (ie: someone who does not read MacRumors or tech blogs) that cares about the Siri Apple Intelligence delays.

I think a lot of people care about having a better, smarter, more capable Siri. I certainly do.

If it means turning on other obnoxious Apple Intelligence features to get it, though, I might have second thoughts.
 
for all the people making negative comments when you are the CEO of a million, multi-million, trillion dollar Company your comments might hold water, if you are unhappy with Apple products or services stay away from Apple and use Android. all the negative energy is not good for anyone.
The classic ‘you can’t criticize a trillion-dollar company unless you run one’ defense.

By your logic, I guess you shouldn't review a meal unless you're a five-star chef or complain about your internet unless you own Comcast.

Here’s the thing: buying a product entitles people to an opinion. That's how markets work.

And if basic consumer feedback feels like ‘negative energy’ to you, maybe the real issue isn't with criticism, it’s with how deeply you've emotionally merged your identity with a phone brand.

That’s not tech loyalty; that’s a personality crisis.

Touch grass.
 
I don’t want any of that.

I just want Siri to verbally answer my questions like ChatGPT, rather than giving me web links. Make it actually useful to talk to.
In theory that sounds wonderful, but when I use the ChatGPT voice feature I find it pretty tedious to wait and follow the response if it's any longer than one sentence - for example, "what is meant by checks and balances". For anybody with the ability to read, with comprehension, at fairly good speed, voice interfaces for substantive inquiries is a non-starter. That said, it will certainly be a good feature for agent oriented stuff ("make me a reservation at Pizza Hut for 7 pm"), provided you trust it's ability to get it right and ask necessary followup questions. Even more meaningful if it can handle, "I need someplace to eat tonight with a party of four, under $15 per person".
 
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I really dislike the current pace of releases for both software and hardware. Software in particular with announcing things before they are even completed, but also releasing unfinished/buggy updates. I wish they would take a step back and release things when they are polished and ready instead of fixing them with updates after the fact. But no, they have to keep to this ridiculous idea of substantial yearly growth to appease the shareholders. They don't have to completely rest on their laurels, but jesus take some time to breath and get things right.
 
So can the current phone actually work with the new features or do they need a new iPhone. I want a huge discount if new phone hardware is needed.
 
So can the current phone actually work with the new features or do they need a new iPhone. I want a huge discount if new phone hardware is needed.
Chances are good enough that it will work with the 16s that there's no point in crying about it until the unlikely day that I'm proven wrong.
 
If Apple meets this new deadline, can we count on these new features also working properly, much less basic Siri functionality? Hopefully we won't still be faced with responses from Siri like "I don't understand what you mean by 'Sam', and I don't see a playlist by that name."
 
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Excellent synopsis. And very enlightening. Thank you.

People have short memories.
Or no memory of Jobs' history of premature announcements at all, given that many people now complaining about the delay in new Siri capabilities weren't old enough to have witnessed it.
 
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Or no memory of Jobs' history of premature announcements at all, given that many people now complaining about the delay in new Siri capabilities weren't old enough to have witnessed it.
Yeah, most people have absolutely no idea what they are talking about when it comes to this kind of stuff.
They just follow the “Steve would never” mantra because it’s an easy way to attempt to simplify something that is very complex.
Same goes with everyone who thinks Steve would literally have fired everyone from Apple because of one thing, when… he never did that during his lifetime.
Even in 1997, when he first came back to Apple, all of the stories that people tell talk about people *fearing* that they would/could be fired. If you actually look at how many people were actually fired, it… Wasn’t really that many.
The version of Steve that people have made up in their heads is just barely human.
A guy that built the best team in the world that can do anything… But also would fire dozens on the daily. Like… no.
Steve’s Apple had tons of problems. They had delays, broken promises, missed deadlines, the occasional awful statement or bad advertisement, disappointing product… It was the same apple of today. Just smaller, and with different product priorities.

This is all Tim Cook's fault for firirng Scott Forstall. Siri would be industry-leading had Cook never fired Forstall in 2012. When Siri was integrated into iOS 5 in 2011, it had problems, but Forstall was known for being a perfectionist who, within a reasonably efficient amount of time, would fix software problems that were present at launch.

Cook is so clueless to not see the irreplacable value that Jobs saw in Forstall. Forstall was the most Jobs-like emloyee at Apple, and Clueless Cook was oblivious to that.
This for example. Just ridiculous simplifications, assumptions about people this guy doesn’t even know.
Scott Forstall was literally on the development team of Mac OS X during some of its worst, earliest releases, including the ones that were delayed several times. It was pretty common sentiment at the time that versions like Chita and Puma were barely ready for public use, and Scott Forstall was literally the guy on the front lines.
 
Yeah, most people have absolutely no idea what they are talking about when it comes to this kind of stuff.
They just follow the “Steve would never” mantra because it’s an easy way to attempt to simplify something that is very complex.
Same goes with everyone who thinks Steve would literally have fired everyone from Apple because of one thing, when… he never did that during his lifetime.
Even in 1997, when he first came back to Apple, all of the stories that people tell talk about people *fearing* that they would/could be fired. If you actually look at how many people were actually fired, it… Wasn’t really that many.
The version of Steve that people have made up in their heads is just barely human.
A guy that built the best team in the world that can do anything… But also would fire dozens on the daily. Like… no.
Steve’s Apple had tons of problems. They had delays, broken promises, missed deadlines, the occasional awful statement or bad advertisement, disappointing product… It was the same apple of today. Just smaller, and with different product priorities.


This for example. Just ridiculous simplifications, assumptions about people this guy doesn’t even know.
Scott Forstall was literally on the development team of Mac OS X during some of its worst, earliest releases, including the ones that were delayed several times. It was pretty common sentiment at the time that versions like Chita and Puma were barely ready for public use, and Scott Forstall was literally the guy on the front lines.
In engineering like other areas, what's important is often not how often or even how badly you stumble or fall, but how quickly and well you pick yourself back up and get going again.
 
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