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They need to stop putting any dates at all on this.
Don't mention what year or season or anything.

"Within Apple, the original goal was to have the Siri features ready in the fall of 2024, alongside the new iPhone.

The target then shifted to spring 2025. The company had privately expected a rollout as part of iOS 18.4, before moving the target again to May with iOS 18.5.

By March, the company postponed the features indefinitely, saying at the time they wouldn’t arrive until sometime in the coming year. The delays stemmed from engineering snags that kept the technology from working properly a third of the time, Bloomberg News reported earlier this year.

This work needed more time to reach our high quality bar, and we look forward to sharing more about it in the coming year,” he said at the beginning of the roughly 90-minute presentation.

Federighi and other executives also sought to downplay the company’s struggles in AI, saying that the postponed Siri features were just a part of a broader push and that success in AI will be determined over the next several years."
 
I’ve been pretty scathing about them here, but it was because of the untruths, promising something when it wasn’t ready.

I hope they can do it. I’m not sure if that can. But I hope they can.
 
Awesome… I’m gonna get back out on the edge of my seat! 😑
It was silly that anyone ever was on the edge of their seat for this or ANY device or software. The world just doesn't work like that such that there's ever a point to being on the edge of one's seat.
 
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For a bunch of tech literate posters, you would think there would be more understanding of how software dev works ;)

over decades, from mainframes down, i've been involved with rollouts and usually it's management pressure to create a rollout date that causes early promises and poor releases.

it's easy to prove things work in small controlled environments.
it's totally different to do a full production release.

this isnt something that would be easy to rollback.
and the outfall from a bad release to billions would severely affect the brand more than a delay.

sounds like Apple already realised the underlying structures werent going to cut it in the real world so they revamped things and that's taking time to get right.

i'm all for a delay and less buggy release.
i'm looking forward to a smarter Siri, finally, but a few more months isnt a deal breaker.
 
That’s nice, but in the meantime can we get a decently working Siri that isn’t reliant on AI, like how we had five years ago?

Shouldn’t need super-advanced ML and LLM and next-gen architecture to give a response to basic task requests without giving an error.
what specific cases are worse now than 5 years ago?

Siri has long needed an upgrade.
but in my experience it has become slightly better over time.

it just needs a huge jump forward to catch up to other offerings and hopefully surpass them...
 
Best bet with hardware or software is to go on with life then wake up one day, read some tech news and see that the hardware or software IS not only finally released but getting praise from key reviewers. Then go out and get it yourself it you feel a need. Only reason to do otherwise is because you expect problems and want to help contribute to future success as a beta tester.
 
Why even say this?

What happened to "we don't talk about future products or releases"?
(a policy that would serve them well on this topic)

They must be concerned about having any good iPhone upgrade drivers this Fall.

Perhaps this is why they leaned into visual redesigns of the OSes.
Gurman says a lot of things, apple? not s much - when it comes to release dates
 
Wow. I think all of us who bought the iPhone 16 series phones should get some sort of money back because it was "The first iPhone built from the ground up for Apple Intelligence!" All of the advertising was about Apple Intelligence, including the new Siri features, and we were misled.

Obviously I know that will never happen, and I do believe there is a class action lawsuit going on about this very issue (which is why I believe Apple was so hush-hush about Siri and gave that one statement about it at the beginning of WWDC) but joining those are a pain just to possibly get $15-30?

Give us AppleTV+ for a year free or something. I generally always tend to defend Apple on most issues, but this was blatant false advertising! If companies never get held accountable for this, they will just continue to do it! I wanted the iPhone 16 Pro Max new Siri or not as I buy the new iPhone every year, however, I was certainly looking forward to FINALLY having a much smarter and overall better experience with this new Siri. The problem is, some people actually upgraded from iPhones (and other phones) that worked perfectly fine, that they loved, to get this new A.I. Siri on the iPhone 16. Kind of crazy that by the time this feature is released we will only be 4-5 months away from iPhone 18.

I remember when Apple gave us a free third party case, or Apple Bumper for the iPhone 4 due to "Antenna-gate," as well as a very substantial press conference about it as well, haha.

:apple:
 
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You have to wonder, Apple is one of the richest companies in the world, with an enormous building and staff. Every resource imaginable. What are all those people working on? New watch bands?
Once you get past a certain number of people for some given effort, adding more just makes things worse. So the rest may as well go about working on watch bands or whatever because they can't help if redeployed for Siri.
 
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one of the richest companies in the world, with an enormous building and staff. Every resource imaginable. What are all those people working on?
Once asked of IBM and others.

I won't accuse Apple of doing nothing, as there's a tremendous amount of work behind the scenes. But you need to deliver tangible product from that effort, and as someone once said real artists ship.
 
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