Apple please listen; I want a MacBook but Dell is cheaper & better equipped
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combatcolin
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n00bst3r said:
Thats because Apple's customers are :
50 % Mac die hards - refuse to admit there can ever be a problem in any Apple product.
50 % "The complete social and techonlogical opposite of a geek" who couldn't even tell if there Mac had a problem.
So, net result - everything is wonderful in Apple Towers!
Swarmlord
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n00bst3r said:
I don't know how you can even justify that statement. Years ago I was the first person to refer to an Apple computer as a "mac-in-trash" and smugly used and touted what I thought were superior Windows based computers. Apple has gone a long ways towards turning the technology advantage completely around. Also, unless you've dealt with both Microsoft and Apple customer support as much as I have, you're not in a position to make your statement.
If you're a masocist and want to be treated like something you'd scrape off the bottom of your shoe, you'd be best served by calling Microsoft customer service, believe me and I speak from extensive experience.
n00bst3r said:
Your missing the point, I was joking... Partly.
Apple is not interested in competing on price. they have said so publicly. Apple is more into value. giving the user most everything they need installed or bundled.
Dell is interested in competing on price, they have a manufacturing model based on close to zero overhead in parts. This leaves them with very low cost but very strained relationships with partners. Apple is the opposite. They would rather sell at a higher price point, make more profit per unit sold (and maybe that means sell less) and innovate with partners, not beat them up with screwed up contracts.
Apple is not catering to the budget market, Thats what your asking them to do. The Mac Mini is the first time Apple has done that and it may not be the last but thats not the direction they have told investors their going.
Sorry, but Apple does not want to compete with Dell head on, price for price. They could if they wanted but are not interested.
IlluminatedSage
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jane doe said:
Apple can't compete head to head with Dell on every product, but they do beat them on some. one thing everyone is missing is that Apple SPENDS MORE ON R&D.
Like this is a big surprise. Apple must spend the money where they need to making better products. And consumers need to realize that apple has higher costs to create them because well... they do!!
You might get your wish in a few months when Apple updates the Macbook. It would be foolish of them to go more than 8 months without updating their hardware.
Personally, what drove me to get an iMac is that price-wise, it was a better deal than a comparable Dell system - that's right. I configured both systems on their website and found the iMac to be cheaper. It also has a great suite of software that fits my needs. Performance and interface wise i'm already warming to the iMac.
Personally, what drove me to get an iMac is that price-wise, it was a better deal than a comparable Dell system - that's right. I configured both systems on their website and found the iMac to be cheaper. It also has a great suite of software that fits my needs. Performance and interface wise i'm already warming to the iMac.
Apple please listen; I want a MacBook but Dell is cheaper & better equipped
Why do people argue about Mac v's Dell or PC or whatever the hell computer you happen to own.
I bought a computer to do what I wanted it to do, NOT to play with the OS (be it OSX, XP, Linux, Unix, BE or any other) I am not loyal to any one manufaturer of hardware or software. It is simply a tool to do a job, they can keep all their fussy little gadgets, widgets, fidgets etc. just give me what I paid for, a computer without any faults - either hardware or software related - so that it will run the programs "I" want to run.
The problems I have had with the Macs I own (I also have several PCs, and I have had problems with some of them also) are usually hardware related. Apple know these problems well but pretend they don't exist - Matshita CD/DVD drives for one - the name should give them a clue - Mat **** A - and this is my main gripe with Apple, I personally don't think they care about their customers one iota. I know of one Macbook Pro owner who had a logic board replaced at a cost of over $1000 only to find 4 months later that his machine had developed the same problem again.
After talking to Apple he was told that they only give 90 days warranty on repairs and now that time was up he would have to pay for another logic board (with another 90 day warranty!). Now that shows just how confident Apple are in their products. I am sure others can tell similar stories about other manufacturers. Lets face it they (the makers/sellers) just want the money, we pay, and then either whine about them; or defend them blindly.
It's a machine NOT a religion, so why get your knickers in a twist defending a producer of faulty merchandise?
Anyway I will sit back and wait for the Party Faithfull to shower me with their gratitude.
Why do people argue about Mac v's Dell or PC or whatever the hell computer you happen to own.
I bought a computer to do what I wanted it to do, NOT to play with the OS (be it OSX, XP, Linux, Unix, BE or any other) I am not loyal to any one manufaturer of hardware or software. It is simply a tool to do a job, they can keep all their fussy little gadgets, widgets, fidgets etc. just give me what I paid for, a computer without any faults - either hardware or software related - so that it will run the programs "I" want to run.
The problems I have had with the Macs I own (I also have several PCs, and I have had problems with some of them also) are usually hardware related. Apple know these problems well but pretend they don't exist - Matshita CD/DVD drives for one - the name should give them a clue - Mat **** A - and this is my main gripe with Apple, I personally don't think they care about their customers one iota. I know of one Macbook Pro owner who had a logic board replaced at a cost of over $1000 only to find 4 months later that his machine had developed the same problem again.
After talking to Apple he was told that they only give 90 days warranty on repairs and now that time was up he would have to pay for another logic board (with another 90 day warranty!). Now that shows just how confident Apple are in their products. I am sure others can tell similar stories about other manufacturers. Lets face it they (the makers/sellers) just want the money, we pay, and then either whine about them; or defend them blindly.
It's a machine NOT a religion, so why get your knickers in a twist defending a producer of faulty merchandise?
Anyway I will sit back and wait for the Party Faithfull to shower me with their gratitude.
You do know that you are responding to a thread thats over a year old......
BTW.... People argue over computers for the same reason we argue over politics, religion, money, relationships, parking spots, food, sports, bills, and how much to tip at restraunts..... we are human, its what we do.
dpaanlka
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You must be some kind of priest to resurrect a thread that has been dead for a year.
Yeah how about it, this is old skool.
cohibadad
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I know this is an old thread but I read a couple of pages of posts for the fun of it. I think it's funny how some people are so happy they can get anti-virus, anti-adware anti-whatever programs free for their windows PCs. Isn't it worth something not to have to install this crap at all? I've eliminated almost all PCs from my household. The final straw was the relentless porn adware that kept popping up on PCs that only my wife and daughters use. And these PCs had software loaded to prevent it. Enough is enough. The final 2 DELLs get decommissioned once Leopard is released.
Counterfit
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Who cares?
Someone get me a shotgun, this thread needs its head blown off, RE style.
Someone get me a shotgun, this thread needs its head blown off, RE style.
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