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It's not that people can't change their habits. Obviously that's easy to do. The issue is, why should they have to?

Apple used to care about ergonomics. They used to make phones that "feel good in the hand". They also used to be the leader in smartphone photography and if I'm not mistaken, the iPhone was the first smartphone to use the volume rocker as the camera shutter.

IMO, the current placement of the power button is not beneficial in any way. They moved it down from the top to make it easier to reach, but it's still too high up to reach one-handed and now, it's an impediment to using the volume rocker.

The answer isn't always to just suck it up and change. If it were, you could justify all kinds of dumb design decisions. The user experience is supposed to get better over time.
Is that something that applies to most people? What if many find it beneficial or at least fine where it is?

I'd bet that there would be similar discussions popping up about people finding it bad if the power button was left on top. Or if the power button was moved lower down. Or if it was somewhere else. So based on those complaints from some, would that then show than any placement is therefor a bad design?
 
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I believe my old HTC One had the power buttoned lowered on the right side to help prevent the very issue we're discussing.

That's exactly what I was thinking of when I made the suggestion. I feel like HTC placed the sleep wake button in the best possible place for a phone that size.
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Is that something that applies to most people? What if many find it beneficial or at least fine where it is?

I'd bet that there would be similar discussions popping up about people finding it bad if the power button was left on top. Or if the power button was moved lower down. Or if it was somewhere else. So based on those complaints from some, would that then show than any placement is therefor a bad design?

I get that there are a million use cases out there. I know you're not going to please everyone but I'm struggling to imagine how switching the position of the sim tray and sleep/wake wouldn't be better for more people than the current configuration.
 
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How many times have you tried to take a picture using the volume button or tried to turn the volume
down and put your phone to sleep?
APPLE< please move the sleep button.
Thank you!
The down volume works for photos, not just the top one. And down volume is below the power button, if you're holding it to try to press it, you won't bump power.

If you just have a hard time lowering volume when it's in your pocket, for example, just briefly feel where the mute switch is to locate volume. That's what I do.
 
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I don't feel this is even a reasonable request. Button being on top of such a large phone would be disasterous I feel.
 
How many times have you tried to take a picture using the volume button or tried to turn the volume
down and put your phone to sleep?
APPLE< please move the sleep button.
Thank you!

Ummmm...never.

You've got a problem...not Apple.
 
How many times have you tried to take a picture using the volume button or tried to turn the volume
down and put your phone to sleep?
APPLE< please move the sleep button.
Thank you!
Never happen. Thank you again, Fourthtunz. Have a nice night.
 
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The down volume works for photos, not just the top one. And down volume is below the power button, if you're holding it to try to press it, you won't bump power.

If you just have a hard time lowering volume when it's in your pocket, for example, just briefly feel where the mute switch is to locate volume. That's what I do.
yep, I've done that I would prefer they move the power button.
Liked it better on top..jus saying :)
 
I do see it... When holding the phone in landscape while watching YT, I sometimes press the volume up/down while my hand holding the phone rests on the power button, the force of pressing volume then makes me press power as well, switching off the screen.

No big problem though. I don't blame the phone... I was just more careful until it grew on me.
 
At this point Apple wouldn't re-engineer the phone to put it on top,
but thats where the power button started out and thats where it belongs if you ask me.
Ergonomically the button being on the side or the top takes an adjustment.
I personally feel that on the top takes less of an adjustment.
 
I do see it... When holding the phone in landscape while watching YT, I sometimes press the volume up/down while my hand holding the phone rests on the power button, the force of pressing volume then makes me press power as well, switching off the screen.

No big problem though. I don't blame the phone... I was just more careful until it grew on me.
As I recall at some point not too long ago things were changed so that if the lock/sleep button is pressed at the same time as a volume button, then the volume button takes precedence (and the lock/sleep button's action doesn't have an effect in that scenario).
 
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