Good post. I didn't include it all (see earlier) ... but I only disagree with the last bit. I think SJ read Gates' book, I doubt Ballmer can read let alone write.
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Good post. I didn't include it all (see earlier) ... but I only disagree with the last bit. I think SJ read Gates' book, I doubt Ballmer can read let alone write.
Huh? I'd say my Droid 2 is a smart phone so therefore not all smart phones are iPhones. That is like saying all soda pop is Coke which makes no sense.
droids are smartphones. so they are iphones; albeit generic. You got it right. It is just like saying all soda is coke or all tape players are walkmen.
You need to define generic for me. I can go into a Supermarket and there are a lot of name brand products on the shelf and a few store brand or generic ones as well. If a phone is made by Motorola, HTC, Samsung, Nokia, RIM, etc. it is not a generic product. Now if you can buy a store brand phone then you could call it a generic device. Generally any electronic device considered 3rd tier or lower could be called generic. The companies I have listed are all producing phones in the first or second tier. They are all established companies in the communications industry. If a company named "Panasowanic" starts importing some 3rd tier phone and have no company history then it would be a generic device. I don't think you really understand the concept of generic products.
Are you going to argue that a brand like Samsung is generic? If so then when I go and look at a new HDTV the Samsung is generic?
Why would a computer positioned between the mini and the Pro be considered cheap? Some people tell me that the iMac is that middle computer so I guess to you the iMac is cheap.
Wanting Apple to build a Mac that has more internal capacity than the mini but not as big as the Pro isn't asking for cheap. It's asking for a Mac that fits my needs.
Wanting Apple to build a Mac that has more internal capacity than the mini but not as big as the Pro isn't asking for cheap. It's asking for a Mac that fits my needs.
There is a safe way to run Flash apps on iOS: package the Flash as an iOS app. If there are actually Flash apps that users can't live without, this is the safe way to provide those Flash apps on iOS machines. Apple will distribute those apps with a 70/30 split of the sale price to the developer. If the developer wants to make the software free, Apple will freely distribute the software to anyone who wants it.
I'll admit, OS 5 for blackberry's was garbage in a sense. But I guess to each his own. I have no need for an iPhone. I've owned an Ipod touch forever and a day now, and I've found that all the apps are really pointless. Sure, you have a couple gems, but really, the app store is just like a huge pile of crap with a couple bits of glitter
I stick with my blackberry cause it "just works". Multitasking is amazing. Noficiations are unintrusive. And, well, I'd love to see any other phone outlast the battery on this one. I find that the people who stick to blackberry's are primarily texters. Granted, I send probably 600-1000 texts per day, but RIM's offering does what it needs to.
Oh, and WP7 looks amazing
I stick with my blackberry cause it "just works". Multitasking is amazing. Noficiations are unintrusive. And, well, I'd love to see any other phone outlast the battery on this one. I find that the people who stick to blackberry's are primarily texters. Granted, I send probably 600-1000 texts per day, but RIM's offering does what it needs to.
Oh, and WP7 looks amazing
I can go down and purchase an iPad today at my local Apple store. I'll almost certainly be able to preorder and have delivered an iPad 2 before the Playbook is even available for sale.
Enjoy your 5 month wait for the Playbook, and for your sake, I hope that the Playbook compares as well in an impartial review against the iPad 2, but I'm guessing that even the Samsung Galaxy Tab, which is also available for purchase today, will best the Playbook.
The iMac is quite inexpensive when you consider that it comes bundled with a very fine 27 inch monitor. As for the Mac Mini, sooner than later, there will be a desktop option with both a modest SSD and a high capacity 2 1/2 HDD, and assuming that Apple ops for Sandy Bridge and Light Peak, this Mac Mini would be quite capable of replacing many mainstream desktops.
Guess you nailed it - exchange is most important for enterprise customers (and thats what the article is about). Works perfect on the iPhone - good for enterprise customers.
I'm using exchange for work, gmail for home email - works sweet on the iPhone - I actually see the email on the phone before I see them on the desktop
We're not allowed to use the native mail client on the iPhone, instead we have to download the "Good Technology" app from the store. Unfortunately the app is not much better than a Blackberry client. I think iOS needs to implement a password lock on mail accounts before we can use the native client and have access to HTML email etc...
Am I the only one who gets a little offended by talk of "poaching" employees, as if an employee were somehow the property of either of the companies involved. Last time I checked, that was part of the whole capitalistic ideal: that companies compete for the more valuable people with better salaries, benefits, work conditions, etc. But these anti-poaching agreements between companies (which Apple has engaged in as well) and companies pushing non-competitive agreements on employees and references to "poaching" in the sense that something unethical was done really annoys me. None of these companies have any right to bind these people to them in this way, and none of them have any right to gripe if a competitor lures one away with better pay and opportunities.
How? Unless you're prepared to explain how RIM has some kind of lifelong control over the employee's decisions about where he or she works, then you're in no position to label this "evil" in any way. Apple offered a better compensation package and those people went for it. Is it evil because RIM lost out?
How? Unless you're prepared to explain how RIM has some kind of lifelong control over the employee's decisions about where he or she works, then you're in no position to label this "evil" in any way. Apple offered a better compensation package and those people went for it. Is it evil because RIM lost out?
Almost everyone I know who's freelance or works for a SMB uses an iPhone with Hosted Exchange. Gold standard mail/contacts/calendar for UKP 5 pm with no hassle. Sure you could get the same experience on BB with Hosted BES (another UKP 10 pm) but the carriers whack you for higher fees - double whammy just for a BB? I don't think so.
But don't write off RIM yet. Their new fanbois are texting teens. Free BBM is a big pull in that market. Of course if/when they grow up they'll pester their parents for an iPhone. Funny old world.
But don't write off RIM yet. Their new fanbois are texting teens. Free BBM is a big pull in that market. Of course if/when they grow up they'll pester their parents for an iPhone. Funny old world.
Wrong on so many counts.
Have you heard the term 'Digital Native'? The entire corporate world is gearing up for the arrival of young, IT smart people who want to bring their own, often superior, technology into the office with them.
If you're thinking about professional grade, high end number crunching products for the 2% if power users who really need or want them and who know how to use them then fine, but you're not. You're talking about the 'Playbook' which you absurdly claim isn't a "toy". It's called the PLAYbook you fool.
There is no future in singularly corporate focused Smartphones and Tablets. If that's what RIM is aiming for then RIM is in a massive mess. Fortunately, for them and their shareholders, you're talking nonsense.
A point of complete trivia here but officially the plural of Walkman is Walkmans, according to Sony anyway. I don't know if it's always used correctly but there it is.
Pointlessness over... well, from me anyway.
I think they have sent a very clear signal to enterprises: Apple's own data centers use Solaris, and not Mac OS X Server. So if they don't trust their own server operating system, why should anybody else use it?
I doubt that there will be a server edition of OS X Lion - and from what they've shown, the desktop version of Lion will become too much like their dumbed down, closed down iOS for my taste. Lion is definitely not the direction in why I want to go.
I'm considering dumping Aperture for Bibble Pro and Snow Leopard for Ubuntu. The difference between Snow Leopard and Ubuntu 10.10 is marginal, but it's harder for me to stomach the transition away from Aperture to Bibble Pro. But Bibble has one killer feature going for it: It has lens correction built in, and that feature really is awesome.
For everything else in my professional and digital life, I'd be better off with Linux or Windows 7 anyway. The places where I make my living just don't use Mac OS X. They never have, and they quite obviously never will.
As long as Macs can run other operating systems, I will most likely still buy Apple hardware. But I think that my time in Apple's software land is about to end.
Apple had a short window of real opportunity, and that was before Windows 7 and the latest incarnations of Ubuntu saw the light of day and caught up with Mac OS X in the usability department and significantly out-perform it when it comes to sheer computing power.
Another aspect that I truly despise about Mac OS X is that its true purpose is to tie people to Apple hardware. That alone is reason enough to jump ship.
My daughter has just swapped her iPhone for a Blackberry. All her friends have them and they use that messaging a lot. She pays for her own phone so there was no parent pestering involved.
Meh, the cost factor goes out the window when employees are footing the bill. As the current trend of allowing employees to purchase and pay for their own smartphone devices of their choosing gains traction, RIM's market share will continue to erode. That is unless they actually produce a device again that people want.
I was so glad to turn in my BB Tour a couple of months ago and have all my email, contacts and calendars unified. Not to mention only needing to carry one device. The days of company provided phones and associated services are numbered.
Most of friends/people I know with company phones did not pay for the phone iself. The company provids the whole package (phone, subscription, server access). For instance I know many companies will not go through what you describe as tey wont control the phone anymore.
Not before Apple provides a better mail interface...that really suits pro needs and not leasure use as it is the case today. I hope that day will happen soon...
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We are pulling in these devices into our enterprise. We are a Lotus Notes shop, and Notes traveler works GREAT on the iPhone
