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believe me, apple will hit 155 to 160 bucks 2day. right now it is 148 in the pre market.... it will soar today like hell :) glad i bought some options a few days ago. :D
 
$818 Million profit is just out of this world. Around double over last years quarter. I think people really under estimate how big of a company Apple is. Looks like last quarter is funding the 2nd HQ being built!
 
I'm just wondering what the seriously expensive product transition is going to be ?

New 'no way!' shock design iMacs, gobsmacking iphone-esque video ipod, sexy cool iphone nano and *something else* not even on our radar!!

My Projection is Apple @ $350 by Q3 2008 from shipping 3 million macs for two straight quarters in row thus marking 'the tipping point' whereby Apple becomes the worlds no.1 technology brand....
 
I have to laugh at those morons who listened to Jim Cramer's "sell some Apple, sell some Apple, sell some Apple" rant.

Here's my rant: "buy some Apple, buy some Apple, but some Apple". This is only the beginning, guys.

Not to turn this into a discussion of Jim Cramer, but his "sell some Apple" rant was very good advice within the "trading" strategy he recommends. Like you, I'd buy as much as I can and hold it, but he wants you to trade the movement. That is buy a bunch, sell some on radical upswings so that you can bank some profit and lock in some of that gain. Then watch for a dip (and there's always a dip, even in this crazy run-up) and buy more. Repeat.
 
I'm just wondering what the seriously expensive product transition is going to be ?

New 'no way!' shock design iMacs, gobsmacking iphone-esque video ipod, sexy cool iphone nano and *something else* not even on our radar!!

OS X based iPods are a possibility but it probably would only affect the full-sized iPods. Considering that ThinkSecret is talking about a more modest iPod update, we almost have the confirmation that the iPod update will be pretty drastic.:D

Maybe something combined that replaces current Mac minis and iMacs?
 
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Q: Are there thoughts about addressing corporate email on the iPhone?
A: We think that the iPhone is a breakthrough product for all customers including business customers. With very little help from the IT department, it will work. Have many business customers who are very happy so far.
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Any idea what this means? Does it mean that they are testing MS Exchange or Blackberry Connect? Or does it mean that they convinced some corporate customers to open IMAP Ports?

I did hear before that MS Exchange ActiveSync was being tested but not sure if that is a fact or not. This question could have really clarified it.

Does anyone know for sure that this is in the works? I consider it extremely important to get a large segment of the email market.

Right now corporations are not Apple's top priority. There is only so much work they can do, and they'll put the work where it adds most customers. Right now, an IT department _can_ give you access to your work e-mail if they want to, but they may not want to, and they may have good reasons. I'd expect Apple to start working on this some time in the next few months. And whatever they do will also be reflected in the MacOS X Mail application. That's the brilliant thing about having MacOS X on the iPhone: Lots of the work on MacOS X improves the iPhone and vice versa!
 
Right now corporations are not Apple's top priority. There is only so much work they can do, and they'll put the work where it adds most customers. Right now, an IT department _can_ give you access to your work e-mail if they want to, but they may not want to, and they may have good reasons. I'd expect Apple to start working on this some time in the next few months. And whatever they do will also be reflected in the MacOS X Mail application. That's the brilliant thing about having MacOS X on the iPhone: Lots of the work on MacOS X improves the iPhone and vice versa!

So what do you think he meant by the statement "With very little help from the IT department, it will work"? Do you think that this means that IT departments are either opening up IMAP Ports or allowing POP3 access to Corporate Email? I.E. No additional support built into the iPhone.

As far as priorities. Not sure why you feel it should not be a high priority for Apple. The following Article estimates Blackberry users at about 8 million in April 2007 (I thought there was more). Apple expects 10 million uses by the end of 2008. Wouldn't it be a good idea to go after some of the Backberry Users. I really do not think that adding support for Exchange ActiveSync would be a hard thing to do (for iPhones or the MAC). My guess is that there is a nother reason it has not already be done for the MAC. Maybe more political then anything else. Do you really think that they could not have added support for the MAC over the last several years?

http://searchmobilecomputing.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid40_gci1251971,00.html
 
Two "big issues" I have:
2) No support for manual music management--instead, I have to create an "iPhone playlist" and synchronize it with the iPhone.

Hmmm . . In my iPhone pref tab for music I can choose which of my current playlists sync up. That's just how I want it.

Do you not have that option?
 
absolutely huge boost to apple's stock today. 7% increase! while the rest of the market plummets
 
Hmmm . . In my iPhone pref tab for music I can choose which of my current playlists sync up. That's just how I want it.

Do you not have that option?

He's talking about manually dragging the songs to the iPhone, without necessarily syncing it to a playlist .
 
So what do you think he meant by the statement "With very little help from the IT department, it will work"? Do you think that this means that IT departments are either opening up IMAP Ports or allowing POP3 access to Corporate Email?

You say that as if it's a bad thing. IMAP on SSL is secure and stable. I'm not sure where this notion of Exchange being more secure than IMAP came from.
 
You say that as if it's a bad thing. IMAP on SSL is secure and stable. I'm not sure where this notion of Exchange being more secure than IMAP came from.

Actually I am not saying that. However, it appears that a lot of Exchange Admin people are saying that is not what they want to support (for whatever reason). With that said, I believe that besides EMAIL; Contacts, Calendar, and Task Syncing are very important. IMAP would only give you EMAIL. Also, you would have to also support IMAP Push which Yahoo is currently supporting.

My point is why fight it. Would it not be better to just give full support to Exchange and/or Blackberry Connect so the Business Community would embrace it now. Also, remember that there other sucurity concerns besides IMAP SSL. Like lost PDA's being cleared of Corporate information if needed over the air.

Of course they could be going off in some other direction. Maybe you will be able to get Over the Air SYNC of Mail, Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, Notes from another to be anounced server to compete with Exchange and Blackberry. I know MS is also supporting this with Windows Live for the non-business user (or maybe small business user). I think they could do something like this as well. As you know they already have Yahoo Push Email. Maybe Yahoo can get busy and support the other options with a backend to Exchange and Blackberry. However, not counting on this since Yahoo does not seem to be doing that good of job at just doing the Push Email part.

Again, I started this topic to see if anybody could shed more light on the comments made about Corporate Email. Sounds like you are saying that they are talking about what is already available which is IMAP. Is that what you are saying?
 
Q: Apple TV Units?
A: We don't announce that level of product detail.

I am guessing that product isn't selling very well or you can bet they would have released numbers.
 
He's talking about manually dragging the songs to the iPhone, without necessarily syncing it to a playlist .

What is the difference between manually dragging songs over to a playlist and manually dragging it over to the iPhone?
 
Fighting for the adoption of opens standards, like IMAP, can make sense.

Sure, but that risk exists with BlackBerries and the like as well.

I Agree. I think LDAP for Contacts would also be a good idea. So, if that is there direction I think it would good to say so. I mean, say we have no plans to support Exchange or Blackberry Connect. Our plan to support open standards such as IMAP SSL, LDAP, iCal etc.
 
$818 Million profit is just out of this world. Around double over last years quarter. I think people really under estimate how big of a company Apple is. Looks like last quarter is funding the 2nd HQ being built!

As I said in other occasions, it's about time stubborn Mac-bashers that come to this forum leave the building, as Elvis did...

Apple is poised to become THE biggest ICT company in the world, encompassing not only desktops but portables, phones, TV media and multimedia devices.

Apple's growth is simply blowing everyone's minds every quarter, and there is NO way new iPhones, new Macs and new iPods will flop...Apple is on a roll and all the others are in the pit, including Microsoft.

Laugh while you can, Monkey Ballmer and PC "pundits"...:rolleyes:

GO APPLE!
 
Actually I am not saying that. However, it appears that a lot of Exchange Admin people are saying that is not what they want to support (for whatever reason). With that said, I believe that besides EMAIL; Contacts, Calendar, and Task Syncing are very important. IMAP would only give you EMAIL. Also, you would have to also support IMAP Push which Yahoo is currently supporting.

My point is why fight it. Would it not be better to just give full support to Exchange and/or Blackberry Connect so the Business Community would embrace it now. Also, remember that there other sucurity concerns besides IMAP SSL. Like lost PDA's being cleared of Corporate information if needed over the air.

Of course they could be going off in some other direction. Maybe you will be able to get Over the Air SYNC of Mail, Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, Notes from another to be anounced server to compete with Exchange and Blackberry. I know MS is also supporting this with Windows Live for the non-business user (or maybe small business user). I think they could do something like this as well. As you know they already have Yahoo Push Email. Maybe Yahoo can get busy and support the other options with a backend to Exchange and Blackberry. However, not counting on this since Yahoo does not seem to be doing that good of job at just doing the Push Email part.

Again, I started this topic to see if anybody could shed more light on the comments made about Corporate Email. Sounds like you are saying that they are talking about what is already available which is IMAP. Is that what you are saying?

I think you raise many interesting issues. Unfortunately, the original question during the conference call was posed without any savvy or nuance. Asking whether the iPhone will support corporate email is simply an asinine question. Of course it supports corporate email because corporate email can use the same excellent protocols that we all use. If the analyst didn't have his head up his ass, he would have asked: do you have plans to add native Exchange client support, like ActiveSync or at least WebDAV based Outlook Web Access? That was what the analyst meant. The answer to the question asked by the analyst is that the iPhone already supports corporate email with IMAP over SSL including at least one IMAP push protocol. I would imagine the answer to the question about adding MS specific client support would probably have not been answered anyway. There's some support for Exchange in iCal, in AddressBook and in Mail on Mac OS X. The question is will Apple add more themselves; leave it to a third-party; or try to push adoption of the great open protocols already available to corporate IT; or all of the above?

My guess is that a lot of this will become clearer when Leopard is released since Leopard will bring iCal server based on the Darwin Calendar Server that bring much of what Exchange does (and more) to the platform (in the form of another Darwin open source project). The CalDAV protocol has many projects working on Exchange integration. All of this could be leveraged by any IT department that wanted to forgo tens of thousand of annual licensing fees each year. I'm anxious to see how this CalDAV stuff plays out. It's some exciting protocols collected together and rounded-out.
 
IJ Reilly said:
It ended up opening at $145.94. Not sure why, since the last trades in after-hours were at around $150.00.

Just like there is after-market trading, there is also pre-market trading.

Actually, you shouldn't think of trading as part of some linear process. Those lines drawn on the graphs are just drawn for aesthetic value. Every trade is a unique event. Especially in after hours trading where not everyone meets in the same forum to trade, you can expect less consistency in trades. In after-hours trading someone looking to sell found someone willing to buy at $150. When the opening bell rang, traders settled on $145 for the first trade. They're just distinct events.
 
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