You're right. I have four people on my family plan. Two of us are buying iPhones, and the other two will be getting other phones. I think my wife wants one of those white Centros...
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Congradulations ... Although I am not so sure that you are giving the iPhone as much credit as it deserves... Without the iPhone the LG wouldnt even exist in the market. And ok... you listed 7 features that the iPhone doesn't have. I am quite sure we can start listing more than 7 features that the LG doesnt. Not really an apples to apples (so to speak) comparison. And in my own personal opinion some of the stuff you list is not really all that useful. For instance... camera flash... on your mobile camera? In my experience those are better used as a flash light. As for your other issues... like voice/video recording and voice dialing. Those will easily be filled in with the App Store.
You hear that? Its the sound of people not caring... Why did you sign up for macrumors to tell us you aren't getting an iPhone?
I know that when I moved to the US from Canada at age 24 (dual citizen, already had a US SSN) Verizon didn't approve me initially due to lack of credit history. I had to give my Canadian SIN and wait a few days for them to get a credit check there.
But who knows with AT&T, and co-signing might indeed be possible.
I've always been number 1 fan of all Apple
I've always been number 1 fan of all Apple...
Especially that I've been waiting for an iPhone since it was a rumor. I was so excited I told everybody I was gonna get one. But the one thing that got me to jump ship on the iPhone was a simple fix. I had to be dependent on an Apple rep to change my battery. That don't fly with me at all, especially with identity theft in an upraise. I don't know who is hire in retails these day. It will be my luck I handed over my iPhone, if I had one to a disgruntle employee. You hear this crap all over the news every day, about employee stealing company information for their own gain. It's nothing new at all. It's happening NOW as you read this. What next I have to go to Athletic Footwear to have them tie my sneakers, cause I bought it from their store?????? Please! Find another SUCKER!
You hear that? Its the sound of people not caring... Why did you sign up for macrumors to tell us you aren't getting an iPhone?
I've always been number 1 fan of all Apple...
Especially that I've been waiting for an iPhone since it was a rumor. I was so excited I told everybody I was gonna get one. But the one thing that got me to jump ship on the iPhone was a simple fix. I had to be dependent on an Apple rep to change my battery. That don't fly with me at all, especially with identity theft in an upraise. I don't know who is hire in retails these day. It will be my luck I handed over my iPhone, if I had one to a disgruntle employee. You hear this crap all over the news every day, about employee stealing company information for their own gain. It's nothing new at all. It's happening NOW as you read this. What next I have to go to Athletic Footwear to have them tie my sneakers, cause I bought it from their store?????? Please! Find another SUCKER!
No but the point he was trying to make is whether or not you call it discrimination ... AT&T is asking for the SS# to do a credit check... they wont give you the contract without a credit check.... you have the right to not give them that information... but don't hold them accountable for trying to make sure you have the credit rating required to get subsidized for a phone.
Actually that is obviously the very next step on the evolutionary chain.
... its a ****ing battery. Turn your security code on when they change the battery... they dont need the software unlocked to change the battery.Well here is the deal...I dont need or want a camera on my phone...so a 3 mp cam on my phone is irrelevant...I have a 12 MP DSLR. Movies? Again, a Panasonic 3ccd Digicam does much better than any phone. Voice dialing? The last hone I had that did it, I used maybe twice as a gimmick. My car has the option so when connected to bluetooth I can..no need for more clutter in my phone. Voice recorder? If I need it, its an available app...Can the LG suppport apps by 3rd party developers? The iPhone App store will offer me FAR more functionality in my iPhone than any other device can offer. Not to mention, I can also control the music via my car stereo controls just like an iPod...oh wait..it IS an iPod as well!
Misguided about the iPhone
Misguided about the iPhone, You think you walk in with an iPhone that needs a battery change it will taken care of that day. Sorry to inform you, my nephew had to wait 6 days for his iPhone to get a new battery. So he had NO cell phone at all. Down time for him 6 days is to much. For other 1 day down time will kill them. Why should we have any down time for something we can do in 2 sec at home? My nephew wasn't about to pay an additional $50 bucks for a loaner, plus the cost of the battery, plus the cost of the service to change the battery... Like I said...
Apple find another SUCKER! At least with an LG Dare your guaranty ZERO down time if you ever had battery issues. Because you can change it your self. The way it is suppose to be in life...
Actually that is obviously the very next step on the evolutionary chain.
Misguided about the iPhone, You think you walk in with an iPhone that needs a battery change it will taken care of that day. Sorry to inform you, my nephew had to wait 6 days for his iPhone to get a new battery. So he had NO cell phone at all. Down time for him 6 days is to much. For other 1 day down time will kill them. Why should we have any down time for something we can do in 2 sec at home? My nephew wasn't about to pay an additional $50 bucks for a loaner, plus the cost of the battery, plus the cost of the service to change the battery... Like I said...
Apple find another SUCKER! At least with an LG Dare your guaranty ZERO down time if you ever had battery issues. Because you can change it your self. The way it is suppose to be in life...
And where does it say that other companies can't ask you for it? Its tied to your credit rating... they need to check your credit... should they ask your shoe size?
Yes they do... its a contract... in which you are getting a big portion of the price of the phone subsidized. If you dont pay your bills... they lose money!
What are you paying upfront for in regards to your plan? (this may be true... not up here in Canada though)
As MANY other people have posted... you don't wanna give out your SS# then try using another means. But sure... get pissed at Apple... You know that cell companies have been asking for this stuff for ages. And ... why are you happy to give your SSN to visa/mastercard etc. but not AT&T... you think they have different policies in place to protect your info?
Ok... mobile camera flash is a joke anyway... tell me a practical use for this please. Right now... no turn by turn voice GPS... ok... App store... its coming! Can't *swoop/swap* out your own battery? Darn that sucks. And sure they didn't increase the camera MP ... i guess i can join you on that front.
Ok 2 things:
1. That big of a concern... wipe the phone before you turn it in, or replace the battery yourself.
2. These companies have massive policies in place to protect that information. Watch one of them violate it and get caught. Thats a huge lawsuit waiting to happen. I would almost want to bait them for it. Give me 1 example (source required) where Apple or AT&T has stolen personal information from a device in for repair.
MMS ... I suppose... my BB doesnt have MMS so I dont miss it.
I agree. However I do think this feature will be here soon.
Wait about a day after the app store launches... It will be there.
Why are you against a third party handling this?
As for Bluetooth... I can't comment ... not sure what Rogers will do for us.
Its amazing to me when people say stuff like this, yet will give their credit card to a waiter who disappears with it for 15 minutes. With all the computers in an Apple Store for repair you think a disgruntled employee is going after YOUR cell phone data? Which probably will not have your banking info, your credit card info, or anything that of any use to anyone unless they want to call your Mom....Unlike a computer which has ALL KINDS of personal data...but you have NEVER heard once about an Apple employee stealing that info...please..gimme a break....
LIAR....the iPhone battery is under warranty and the original has been out less than a year. You have a baterry problem, they dont SELL you a new battery, they give you a COMPLETELY new phone. Its done in a matter of minutes.
I called the nearby Apple store and asked an employee this same question. We came to the conclusion that if the FAN# was there as a student discount, and the bill comes to my house, and is paid by me, it sounds like an individual account.
I then called 611 and the AT&T CSR checked and came back and told me that I was on an individual account. He stated that business accounts have 15 lines or more. He also stated (as we know) that the iPhone 3G will qualify for the FAN discount, which should take effect automatically.
Sounds like I can go to the Apple store Friday?
You will do just wonderful with an iPhone... Because of you needs, However I will be using it for quick emergency picture or video recording for evidence, It's the nature of what I do. I can not risk my credit score because it is to valuable to me, In NYC it's THE LAW to use hand free dialing. So I use voice dialing like ten thousand times a day. I been using voice dialing for 22 years on so many CHEAP FREE phone. Hmm.. What should anyone be looking toward the App Store to get **** it should already have? Should the App Store be for innovative Apps? Voice Dialing isn't innovative and shouldn't be in the App Store. It's like offering a phone with out a dialing capability, so now you will have to go to the App Store to download a dailing App to make Calls. Hello! It is 2008 isn't it?
Guys... stop feeding the trolls. The poster has an obvious agenda.
As for me, I'm still trying to figure it all out. I love my iPhone and I'm not sure that I've been convinced yet to upgrade.
App Store needed To Be able To Make a Call
You will do just wonderful with an iPhone... Because of you needs, However I will be using it for quick emergency picture or video recording for evidence, It's the nature of what I do. I can not risk my credit score because it is to valuable to me, In NYC it's THE LAW to use hand free dialing. So I use voice dialing like ten thousand times a day. I been using voice dialing for 22 years on so many CHEAP FREE phone. Hmm.. Why should anyone be looking toward the App Store to get sh*t it should already have in it? Shouldn't the App Store be for innovative Apps? Voice Dialing isn't innovative and shouldn't be in the App Store. It's like offering a phone with out a dialing capability, so now you will have to go to the App Store to download a dailing App to make Calls. Hello! It is 2008 isn't it?
You will do just wonderful with an iPhone... Because of you needs, However I will be using it for quick emergency picture or video recording for evidence, It's the nature of what I do. I can not risk my credit score because it is to valuable to me, In NYC it's THE LAW to use hand free dialing. So I use voice dialing like ten thousand times a day. I been using voice dialing for 22 years on so many CHEAP FREE phone. Hmm.. Why should anyone be looking toward the App Store to get sh*t it should already have in it? Shouldn't the App Store be for innovative Apps? Voice Dialing isn't innovative and shouldn't be in the App Store. It's like offering a phone with out a dialing capability, so now you will have to go to the App Store to download a dailing App to make Calls. Hello! It is 2008 isn't it?
Wrong. It is totally within AT&T or Apple's right to mandate that at least for the first few days of the iPhone's release that they will not be able to open new contracts for people who do not provide their SSN's. They are providing a service and they don't have to provide that service to people who don't follow their set rules. While they couldn't discriminate against people on racial or gender-based basis for example, they can definitely mandate that they will not run credit checks for people who refuse to supply SSN's.
That said, there is nothing that says that they won't sell to those who refuse to provide SSN's they just suggest that you bring it because it adds anywhere from 10-30 minutes to run a credit check if you don't provide your SSN. Seeing as in-store activation is already going to add tons of time to the iPhone sale process on Friday you can understand why they would want to streamline the process as much as possible.
Personally I am glad they are doing it. I shouldn't have to wait longer because some selfish paranoid jerk won't provide his SSN to run a credit check. If you don't want to provide your SSN, stay home on launch day and wait until the crowds die down to get your iPhone.
Also... The West Edmonton Mall store opened this weekend... Didn't get any MacRumor coverage [/QUOTE]
Since Mac Rumors is sort of a user contributed resource, why not take some pics of the new store and upload them. Especially if there are any hot chicks working at the store, which there probably won't be,but if there are upload them.
[/QUOTE]Since Mac Rumors is sort of a user contributed resource, why not take some pics of the new store and upload them. Especially if there are any hot chicks working at the store, which there probably won't be,but if there are upload them.
Current ATT Customers not Eligible for Upgrade CAN Buy at Apple Store
I spoke with a local ATT store rep, an ATT phone rep, and an Apple store and all said non-upgrade eligible customers can purchase an iPhone 3G at the ATT store OR the Apple store.
Only ATT corporate customers should be concerned with having to go to the ATT store.
I spoke with a local ATT store rep, an ATT phone rep, and an Apple store and all said non-upgrade eligible customers can purchase an iPhone 3G at the ATT store OR the Apple store.
Only ATT corporate customers should be concerned with having to go to the ATT store.
You are right about credit card being given to waiters. That is why I never let my credit card out of my sight. I do and will have lot of personal information in my cell phone, It is the nature of what I do, that I have a great deal of personal information on it. Don't be to quick to think that an Apple employee won't STEAL! it's done every day in almost every corporate america company. Read up on it... Just turn the page in any news paper or turn on the nightly news. Just because "YOU" never heard of an Apple employee steal, doesn't meaning it isn't happening. You may take your break now, so you can grow up and read about Identity theft in an upraise in America and how it is happening to unsuspected individual who thought they were protecting them self...