... I'm not a video editor, but I've followed the release closely...."
this is the problem with some sites, that everybody and their aunt has an opinion, even if they have ZERO real knowledge of what is going on. i guess it's a way for people to feel like they are contributing, but honestly, reading reviews, other peoples comments, and then trying to pass some judgement on a product out of their league, just takes up space, doesn't contribute to any technical context, and seems like a school research paper.
"The best equivalent is that when Lion is released, it turns out it doesn't work with current Mac formatted hard drives. You have to reformat everything in a new format."
this is not even a reasonable equivalent. lion is a system that most people, not all, but most, will upgrade to rather quickly, though some will wait for inevitable bugs to be worked out. fcp is a very specialized product, a small percent compared to lion users. and fcp 7 is usable, will be usable, and doesn't require reformatting to be used in lion.
There are non-editors who are otherwise professionals and understand software and can understand this situation in the abstract, and are thus perfectly capable of contributing to this discussion.
After all, what more do you want?
It's an absolute rewrite in the form of v1.0. There's ought to be things missing and Apple now promises to patch them up.
On another note, there will hardly be a professional using FCP X straight off for his/her final projects.
The only thing I'm doubtful is the Multi-cam support which might still not be added to FCP X as the FAQs state.
What strikes me as odd is how many times in that FAQ they say that they understand how important a certain feature is to users. If they undertand that, then why didn't they put it in in the first place?![]()
A bunch of babies cry in Hollywood and people capitulate? Jeez, when has that ever happened
I know they're not all there, but the rest are just riding their coat tails.
Can all you bitchy "pros" just piss off and make something decent for once? Just the same old crap on TV and recycled rubbish in the movies theaters.
youtube/vimeo is far more entertaining these days I have to say.
You'd think a company as savvy as Apple would take this as a PR disaster ... and therefore, mobilize an all out effort to really discuss these issues with a variety of stakeholders for the sake of the long-term business.
Of course as stated in several places, it could be an effort to consolidate the product AND just say that "we think editing video is now a commodity thing" and our software effort here is saying that ... we've figured out that what helps Apple is to now help consumers do video versus the market share of pro's." They could be right.
But why not be smart enough to tackle the issue head on and create a day where you make that market-driven case and show the software for what it is and isn't in advance.
That would have be sensitive, smart and best of all, kind.
It's really hard to not say ... Apple, you acted dumb.
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I dont understand why people can't be patient or look at the positive side of things. No one is forcing you to use Final Cut Pro X. Heck! If you download it, you don't even have to use it! You can still use 7 until you are happy with X!
This is such an overreaction to what has actually happened. People are mad that at most 3 features are missing. THREE FEATURES! HELLO..... How many features does this application have? This is not a PR disaster. Just a bump in the road. We always get over these bumps and forget about them. (iPhone 4 Anttenagate)
You're not a professional - so you simply don't get it. That's ok. But since Apple released (and sold) the software and touts it as "pro" - professionals have every right to voice their concerns or complaints. They also have the right to question Apple on their timeline and future plans regarding both FCP7 and FCPX.
From what I can tell - there is much to love about FCPX. But that doesn't make it ready for primetime for some professionals.
This is such an overreaction to what has actually happened. People are mad that at most 3 features are missing. THREE FEATURES! HELLO..... How many features does this application have? This is not a PR disaster. Just a bump in the road. We always get over these bumps and forget about them. (iPhone 4 Anttenagate)
Yes, lets make all the consumers think that having a pro app makes them a pro editor. We all know Apple did this for the money so that consumers can get something that the "pros" use. Fact is, after looking at Final C-, iMovie Pro, People will be switching to other video editing programs for more control over what they want to edit. When the Hollywood Movies and TV-Shows look like crap in the future, that's when you'll realize that Apple messed up if something isn't done about this.Let's say that a year from now, FCPX has become a comparatively huge success with consumers interested in movie editing. Given the price and the features that is probably not too much of a stretch.
Shouldn't Apple then spend the most time supporting these users instead of the pros? Seems like the smart thing to do.
Major update doesn't equal paying for an update. Major update could just mean 'The next update that contains new features' whereas a minor update would just contain bugfixes.
I agree completely. My point was that this is not as big of a deal as people are making it out to be.
Who are you to tell me that I am not a professional? Have we met?
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Who do you think puts all the Macs and iStuff on TV Shows and movies? It's these guys and their circle of friends. Don't be surprised if the free Apple publicity you see in these types of media starts going down.
Your idea is great, market a consumer application as Pro application. A pro application is for professionals, not consumers. If they wanted to make a consumer version, they've should've called it iMovie Pro or something...
"not yet" means they shouldn't have pulled FCS3. That was the worst part about this whole thing.
MetalMoon said:They should have just waited till these features where ready and release Final Cut Pro X then, why they wanted to get it out before Lion, who knows?
I find it amusing that posters, like yourself, can conclude that some people are making it out to be a bigger deal than it is.
People have different work flows and requirements. If a program lacks the ability to maintain that workflow or offer a viable solution - then it's a BIG problem for that individual.
It's also very telling as to who Apple is more interested in. If you want to claim that 90 percent of the population doesn't care or need these features - I won't argue. At all. But 10 percent of the population does and were told by the CEO that big things were coming. You can't or shouldn't be surprised when Apple is called out for not delivering (to date) on what was promised.
I'm not complaining really. I am simply voting with my wallet until there's a resolution that's satisfactory for my workflow. That means I'll stay in FCP 7 until "whenever."
I think it has potential. Once all updates are given to us, I'll give it a chance. That could be a long time from now. So....I go back to using Premiere Pro, FCP7 and Avid
If it's still a disappointment after the updates. At least I have fall backs. No harm done.![]()
Once those features come in, and they will come, then you guys can wipe the tears from your face and start learning it.
In the meantime, use FCP 7 for your professional life and learn FCP X on the side so once it has all the features you need, you can make the switch. Otherwise, you're not really a professional if you expected to switch your whole professional life around FCP X on the first day if it did have feature parity. Or, if you are a professional who does that, you're not very bright.
What strikes me as odd is how many times in that FAQ they say that they understand how important a certain feature is to users. If they undertand that, then why didn't they put it in in the first place?![]()
If I were Apple, I would have named this Final Cut Express X