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Fingerprint scanner is easily the biggest feature of the 5S, but seems like it's an idea still in it's infancy; simply another implementation of what the Motorola folks did with the Atrix 4G. Perhaps over time it'll prove more valuable (never having to type in that freaking iTunes password is a Godsend), and I am most definitely curious to see how expedient and useful it is in the real world.

64-bit means bo-diddly unless it has 4 GBs of RAM, which I'm nearly positive it doesn't as that would consume way too much power. I guess the word length will be faster, but only very marginally and in an almost imperceptible manner. Perhaps in another two years 64-bit will be huge, but by then the upgrade cycle will have hit soo...why laud it as a feature if it does nothing?

As for the iPhone 5C, maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't get it. So it's an iPhone 5 with cheaper materials and a case that looks like a pair of Crocs? Why am I supposed to want to buy a watered down version of a year-old phone? I keep going back and asking myself "Why would I want to buy this phone? What does it do outside of 'being colorful'" Maybe it appeals to the very young generation, but not the vast majority of emerging markets with that price tag.

Don't get me wrong, I actually think the 5S has some serious improvements (in spite of my qualms about iOS 7) and will be a very worthy upgrade to anyone with a 4S (see: me). I just don't understand the 5C, and the hype surrounding 64-bit processing. I'd rather they focused on improving the screen and battery life, which is unquestionably no longer the best in class.
 
Why does Jon Ive expose his chest hair with basically an undershirt in every one of these first impressions videos? Doesn't he or anybody at Apple think it might be a good idea to have him wear something a little bit less distracting so the viewer can concentrate on what he's saying and on the product?

His chest hair distracts you?
 
Two questions:

- If (Ive) the plastic casing is so incredible incredible... - Why does the 5S have a crappy metal case?
- Are there many people, who will pay premium prices for a piece of plastic in kindergarden design with outdated electronic intestines? Is this, what happens: The old strategy of selling last years phone, but this time with a higher marge of profit and with a design, which brands one as a save-a-hundred-dollar-person and as a puberty rejector?
 
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Can't wait to get one when they come off contract on Verizon. Yes...I will fork up the cash. I'm happy with my unlimited Data plan.:apple:
 
64-bit means bo-diddly unless it has 4 GBs of RAM, which I'm nearly positive it doesn't as that would consume way too much power. I guess the word length will be faster, but only very marginally and in an almost imperceptible manner. Perhaps in another two years 64-bit will be huge, but by then the upgrade cycle will have hit soo...why laud it as a feature if it does nothing?

It also has a new instruction set. That said, the bigger deal is that Apple is jumping ahead of the curve with 64-bit and not waiting for the hardware to catch up. It's better to get developers thinking in 64-bit now. That way in 2 years when our phones have 4GB we'll have apple that can make use of it. Otherwise, we'd have 64-bit capable phones in 2 years and nothing worth running on it.
 
I'm having a hard time being excited about anything that was released today.

Perhaps I've been spending too much time staring at a screen and not enough time outdoors.
 
Another disappointing iPhone keynote for shareholders

I really don't quite understand why every iPhone Apple introduces is predicted to become a failure by Wall Street and the smartphone industry. Even though iPhones are no longer cutting edge products, they're still solidly built and well designed products. iPhones don't seem particularly flawed in any way that would cause consumers to avoid them. If iPhones are always considered disappointing to the industry, why doesn't Apple do something about it? Apple has a huge reserve cash hoard and it could use that money to build the best smartphones in the world that would make every other company's smartphones look like junk. :rolleyes:

Continuing Apple's iPhone announcement blues, the stock tanked again due to Wall Street's disappointment that Apple didn't offer anything unusual. This whole iPhone announcement thing is really getting old and I fail to see what purpose it serves if all the attendees are disappointed. It just sets up Apple as more fail fodder. I honestly can't trust anything that comes from Tim Cook's mouth about Apple. Things aren't getting better. They're getting much worse for Apple's share value and ever-suffering shareholders. :mad:
 
I really dislike how the case for iPhone 5C looks.

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The holes, come on. How could it exposes 'hon' part of iPhone text?
Where's the symmetry? The small an sweet details :apple: really excel on?

They should make a special hole to fit "iPhone" text neatly and hide all FCC license texts behind.
 
Yeah, because we all know the footage used in these videos are from the phone itself, and not another HD camera on a dolly. :rolleyes:

And for me, Sir Ive's videos are creepy. From his voice, the speed of his diction and how he uses as many ridiculously sounding words as possible for something simple turns me off the video. "Unashamedly plastic", really, you're trying to convince yourself to much Johnny.
 
Fingerprint scanner is easily the biggest feature of the 5S, but seems like it's an idea still in it's infancy; simply another implementation of what the Motorola folks did with the Atrix 4G. Perhaps over time it'll prove more valuable (never having to type in that freaking iTunes password is a Godsend), and I am most definitely curious to see how expedient and useful it is in the real world.

64-bit means bo-diddly unless it has 4 GBs of RAM, which I'm nearly positive it doesn't as that would consume way too much power. I guess the word length will be faster, but only very marginally and in an almost imperceptible manner. Perhaps in another two years 64-bit will be huge, but by then the upgrade cycle will have hit soo...why laud it as a feature if it does nothing?

As for the iPhone 5C, maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't get it. So it's an iPhone 5 with cheaper materials and a case that looks like a pair of Crocs? Why am I supposed to want to buy a watered down version of a year-old phone? I keep going back and asking myself "Why would I want to buy this phone? What does it do outside of 'being colorful'" Maybe it appeals to the very young generation, but not the vast majority of emerging markets with that price tag.

Don't get me wrong, I actually think the 5S has some serious improvements (in spite of my qualms about iOS 7) and will be a very worthy upgrade to anyone with a 4S (see: me). I just don't understand the 5C, and the hype surrounding 64-bit processing. I'd rather they focused on improving the screen and battery life, which is unquestionably no longer the best in class.

How is the iPhone 5C a watered down 5 when it has the same specs as the 5? All the hands on reviews I've read say there's nothing cheap about the 5C, that it feels durable and premium. So Apple creates some product differentiation and a phone that looks new rather than just selling last years model for $100 cheaper. It's Wall Street analysts that got this wrong making the assumption the 5C was intended to be a budget phone.
 
- If (Ive) the plastic casing is so incredible incredible... - Why does the 5S have a crappy metal case?
- Are there many people, who will pay premium prices for a piece of plastic in kindergarden design with outdated electronic intestines? Is this, what happens: The old strategy of selling last years phone, but this time with a higher marge of profit and with a design, which brands one as a low income person and as a puberty rejector?

I think you're missing the point. Its supposed to be cheaper. Hence the use of plastic and cheaper components. All the low-cost Android phones have what you call "outdated components" but I don't see you (or any other anti-Apple people) complaining about that.

I mean I wish I could buy a Ford Focus that completely recapitulated a Ferrari 458 spider but that high-end, cutting-edge technology in the Ferrari is expensive. Over the next few decades some of it will eventually make it into the 15k car but it will of course be "outdated" compared to what the new Ferraris have at that point.

The point is if you want the newest, best technology you have to pay for it. If you want to spend less money then be content with technology that has already been used in the previous high-end devices.
 
...yea. The lighting in those videos is a little low, and intense. There are no natural shadows, & its kind of an orange blaze.

Makes Jony & Craig look like they're uncomfortably close to fire.
 
that 5C video reminds me of all those apple parodies. ive talking a lot about so little using as many fancy words as possible to describe plastic.

YouTube: video

yes, because thermo plastic engineering isn't a sophisticated process at all. anybody can do it. can we see your production portfolio?
 
probably late with this, but i'm wondering....

iPhone 5S vs. Droid Mini

Same RAM (2 GB)
Same storage (16 GB)
Same size, weight, almost. So close that it makes no difference.

Screen size, Droid Mini's is bigger
Resolution, Droid Mini's is higher
Battery, Mini's lasts longer
Front AND rear cameras, Mini, more megapixels. according to various reviews, also better pictures.

Price: iPhone $199, Droid Mini $99. How is this even a competition?

Don't even get me started on the ability to sideload apps vs. having to play inside Apple's walled garden.

I've owned 3 iPhones, including my current 4s, and I wanted to give Apple one more chance with this announcement before I made the jump. Seriously, when a phone that you haven't even put in stores yet is behind the smallest Droid phone (which has been out for months) in almost every aspect, it's not close.
 
I really don't quite understand why every iPhone Apple introduces is predicted to become a failure by Wall Street and the smartphone industry. Even though iPhones are no longer cutting edge products, they're still solidly built and well designed products. iPhones don't seem particularly flawed in any way that would cause consumers to avoid them. If iPhones are always considered disappointing to the industry, why doesn't Apple do something about it? Apple has a huge reserve cash hoard and it could use that money to build the best smartphones in the world that would make every other company's smartphones look like junk. :rolleyes:

Continuing Apple's iPhone announcement blues, the stock tanked again due to Wall Street's disappointment that Apple didn't offer anything unusual. This whole iPhone announcement thing is really getting old and I fail to see what purpose it serves if all the attendees are disappointed. It just sets up Apple as more fail fodder. I honestly can't trust anything that comes from Tim Cook's mouth about Apple. Things aren't getting better. They're getting much worse for Apple's share value and ever-suffering shareholders. :mad:

Every iPhone with nuclear power.... with laser... hologram... even it will be Free... Wallstreet will be Wallstreet.
 
Why does Jon Ive expose his chest hair with basically an undershirt in every one of these first impressions videos? Doesn't he or anybody at Apple think it might be a good idea to have him wear something a little bit less distracting so the viewer can concentrate on what he's saying and on the product?

why do you feel chest hair is distracting? it's naturally found on men. I've never spent a second thinking about it on him...the more interesting question may be: why are you?
 
Year 2019:

Introducing the iPhone 11S with Retina scanners and holographic projection, full voice navigation, and 2 year battery life.

Due to inflation, it will cost $1299 on contract for the entry 20TB model.
 
64-bit means bo-diddly unless it has 4 GBs of RAM, [...] Perhaps in another two years 64-bit will be huge, but by then the upgrade cycle will have hit soo...why laud it as a feature if it does nothing?

I'm thinking because you're probably wrong. I'd bet being 64-bit is what's giving it massive amounts of computing power for a mobile device. this is what the Chair studio (Infinity Blade) guy said, and I'd bet he knows more about mobile computing and software engineering than you do.
 
yes, because thermo plastic engineering isn't a sophisticated process at all. anybody can do it. can we see your production portfolio?

Nobody says polymer engineering is an easy subject. How did you come up with that?

But it's made of a plastic for a reason. Profit. Come to think of it, 5C is not really cheaper, only $100 less yet the quality and design wise is nowhere near Apple standard.

So yeah, when Johnny talking up about plastic as if it's an expensive, intricate and charming material, I guess it's really time to laugh.
 
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