Wonder Boy said:
I agree, these "Next Tuesday" announcements are killing us all. Let's move on from these obvious upcoming updates towards some blind speculation about new "mystery" products and G6s around the corner.
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Apple PowerBook and iBook Updates - Next Week?
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I agree, these "Next Tuesday" announcements are killing us all. Let's move on from these obvious upcoming updates towards some blind speculation about new "mystery" products and G6s around the corner.
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I just wanted to add: "Moving pictures. Moving sound. Moving the industry."
Mobile machines can do that. Perhaps they'll feature some new useful audio and video technologies.
BTW, what time is Apple supposed to do its NAB announcement? We know it's April 18th, but I would like to know a time (so that I know when I should start continuously reload MacRumors and a few Mac news sites. )
Mobile machines can do that. Perhaps they'll feature some new useful audio and video technologies.
BTW, what time is Apple supposed to do its NAB announcement? We know it's April 18th, but I would like to know a time (so that I know when I should start continuously reload MacRumors and a few Mac news sites.
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Apple won't do it since it would cannibalize PB sales, but putting Bluetooth standard in the iBooks would be nice (avoid BTO) and 1280x1024 resolution in the 14" iBook would have me re-thinking my eMac purchase from yesterday - especially if they upped the VRAM to 64MB.
applekid said:
If they do put in a color scheme for the ibooks, i hope that it is subtle, nothing like the riot of the past imac g3s and the old clamshells.
I highly doubt there will be g5 pb's next week, of course anythings possible. I also doubt there would be a 3ghz g5
It would be great if they would upgrade to the new Radeon mobile graphics (9700) as well as implement a 200mhz front side bus. Faster memory, faster graphics, and a higher clocked G4 might be enough to hold people over until the G5.
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law guy said:I just (JUST as in last evening) ordered a new 15" super drive. If the new laptops came out early next week, that's one thing. But if they're going to announce on Monday and then say - "we plan to ship by late May" only to see the notebooks shipping in early June... we'll then that's effectively telling me that there isn't an update coming for two months. What are the expectations?
Nope.
Apple makes the UPDATES available the same they day they are announced. They even usually have them in Apple Stores.
This was the situation for Powerbooks in September and iBooks in October. Even, the recent eMacs are available in the stores to be purchased.
Apple usually builds up a 'small stock' in their stores before the release.
If you're getting the powerbook on Friday, and don't want to lose any money, your best bet would be NOT TO OPEN, and wait until Tuesday.
If they are released, send it back for a full refund. If they are not released, then open it and start using
The online Apple Store here just started a promotion for iBooks, PowerBooks, and PowerMac G5s/23" Displays. It probably doesn't mean much (some resellers are still seeking top dollar for Ti Books) but I think the last 2 times they did this, new products were released- the iPod Mini and 20" iMac. Just something to think about.
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Updates mean no G5 for a loooooong time.
I guess updates to the power books would mean no G5 PBs until at least January next year. I am hoping that perhaps the 17" PB will get a G5 in this revision. Maybe the next time the PBs are updated, they will all get G5s. I doubt this will happen, but it is just a hope.
What would be nice is some resolution updates to the PBs. Maybe make the 12" PB a 13" widescreen with 1280 x 800 resolution, and then have the 15" at the 1440 x 900 resolution and the 17" at 1680 x 1024. That would be a nice update to have. Also, have built-in Bluetooth on all models and perhaps have all backlit keyboards.
Any possibility for having built-in SD/MMC/CF/MS slots would be nice though highly unlikely and certainly a built-in camera would be a BIG plus for iChatAV.
I hope at least that the prices are reduced because that is a needed plus especially since the speed increases over the last year and a half have been less than great.
I guess updates to the power books would mean no G5 PBs until at least January next year. I am hoping that perhaps the 17" PB will get a G5 in this revision. Maybe the next time the PBs are updated, they will all get G5s. I doubt this will happen, but it is just a hope.
What would be nice is some resolution updates to the PBs. Maybe make the 12" PB a 13" widescreen with 1280 x 800 resolution, and then have the 15" at the 1440 x 900 resolution and the 17" at 1680 x 1024. That would be a nice update to have. Also, have built-in Bluetooth on all models and perhaps have all backlit keyboards.
Any possibility for having built-in SD/MMC/CF/MS slots would be nice though highly unlikely and certainly a built-in camera would be a BIG plus for iChatAV.
I hope at least that the prices are reduced because that is a needed plus especially since the speed increases over the last year and a half have been less than great.
I don't usually speculate, but I will make a guess here. I can definately see the G5 PowerBooks coming out next week. I think the G4 is near end of its life for high-end computers (PowerMac and PowerBook). There needs to be a distinct difference between the eMac, iMac, iBook and the PowerBook, PowerMac. Just a thought though...
If these portables put off the release of PowerMacs- boy howdy am I going to be upset!
That would mean WWDC at the earliest for PMs, cause there wouldn't be anything left to update except displays...
That would mean WWDC at the earliest for PMs, cause there wouldn't be anything left to update except displays...
Soire said:If these portables put off the release of PowerMacs- boy howdy am I going to be upset!
That would mean WWDC at the earliest for PMs, cause there wouldn't be anything left to update except displays...
If this is the case, should I just pike on waiting and order a dual 1.8 tomorrow? It is very tempting. From what I can gather they havn't had as many noise/fan problems as the Dual 2's. Is that about right?
I think I'll need to start taking mood enhancers! One day up in hope, down the next.
Soire said:If these portables put off the release of PowerMacs- boy howdy am I going to be upset!
That would mean WWDC at the earliest for PMs, cause there wouldn't be anything left to update except displays...
Hey all,
One has nothing to do with the other. Apple has separate development teams for hardware, so the team that works on the Powerbooks, for example, are entirely different than the team that works on the PowerMacs.
The PowerMac delays appear to be G5 problems, which have nothing to do with G4 Powerbooks, which I would bet the next update will be. So, if Apple has G4 powerbooks ready to go, then the release of them has nothing to do with what the G5 tower development team is doing. If the G5 towers are delayed until WWDC it has nothing to do with the PB line.
Also, people need to keep in mind that NAB is not a consumer event, but a professional TV/Video/Pro Audio event. There will be people there from the movie industry, television industry, recording industry, etc.
Considering Apple currently has a story about how a big part of the show "scrubs" is edited on Powerbooks I would say that releasing new Powerbooks at this event makes perfect sense to me.
Cheers!
WARNING : Wild but intriguing speculation
Why does Apple usually have two flavours of a product - in most models it is normal to have two different processor speeds as well as other enhancements.
But the G4 is so far behind the opposition now that even the top speed will seem slow, and a slower speed will be a joke.
Soooo
Consider the current unavailablity of 90nm G5 chips, according to some previous rumours they have not been yeilding well over 2ghz up to this point, but there might still be lots and lots coming in at 1.6 - 1.8?
Combine this rumour factoid with the rumour of multiple models of 15", and the established fact that the 90nm G5 is a near match for the G4 on heat issues at least at sub 2ghz speeds.
Not utterly inconceivable, is it?
However, I personally think we are just seeing all the G4 products getting a boost before Steve at WWDC launches faster Powermacs and G5 iMacs/iBox/iHub/Cube whatever.
Why does Apple usually have two flavours of a product - in most models it is normal to have two different processor speeds as well as other enhancements.
But the G4 is so far behind the opposition now that even the top speed will seem slow, and a slower speed will be a joke.
Soooo
Consider the current unavailablity of 90nm G5 chips, according to some previous rumours they have not been yeilding well over 2ghz up to this point, but there might still be lots and lots coming in at 1.6 - 1.8?
Combine this rumour factoid with the rumour of multiple models of 15", and the established fact that the 90nm G5 is a near match for the G4 on heat issues at least at sub 2ghz speeds.
Not utterly inconceivable, is it?
However, I personally think we are just seeing all the G4 products getting a boost before Steve at WWDC launches faster Powermacs and G5 iMacs/iBox/iHub/Cube whatever.
latergator116 said:
I waver a bit on the issue, depending on just what I've been reading about the technology field of late, but I think that there might not need to be a distinct chip difference. If it's possible to load up and throw the G5 across the board cost-effectively, then they should do so. It's a superior chip to G4 on everything but support-architetcture power requirements.
Keep the consumer line and portables at single processors, but put dual in the pro towers. As I posted over on the eMac thread, there might be some room for a single-processor G5 after all, but it won't be as cheap as some people would like. Stratify the line so that you get a lowerr processor but a CRT on the iMac, and a faster processor and expandability, but no monitor, on the cMac (my name for this hypothetical prosumer/consumer machine). You can even differentiate the iBook and PowerBook by keeping the lowend on the G4 until the heat comes down on the G5s, and then moving them up sometime next year, when the PowerBooks will be due for a bump.