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AidenShaw said:
I have a Dell with a 14" screen that's 1400x1050 pixels. There's absolutely no way that I'd go back to 1024x768 - or even 1280x1024 after working with higher resolution screens....

Look, higher res screens cost more, which means the laptop costs more. Apple would only do that if enough extra customers would buy the higher res. laptop to offset the number who wouldn't buy because of increased price. I just don't think that's the case right now. Many newbie-types don't even know what screen resolution is, or how it effects their computing experience. They also like bigger screen objects that are easier to see. For god's sake, some companies sell 19" LCDs at 1280x1024 resolution, and price them hundreds more than 17" LCDs with the same resolution. And someone buys them!

So wish for what you want, but higher res. 14" ibooks are not happening. I highly doubt that the powerbooks are getting higher res, but that's a possibility because they are supposed to be for "pro" users who supposedly know the value of such things.

I also think it's possible to take it too far, btw. There's absolutely no way I could use a 14" laptop at 1400x1050! Everything would be microscopic and I'd be squinting all the time. If my 12" PB went any higher, I would still keep it at 1024x768. Any higher and the screen real estate isn't worth the eye strain.
 
so far...

90nm g4's with a large cache I can accept. The 8x superdrive seems unreasonable for a portable, unless it steps down to 2x when not plugged in.
For those saying they are waiting for G5 revision b.... do you really think the g5's being sold now are the same machines shipped to virginia tech? No revision b was long ago.
... and about the leaked real deal (as if the number of posts for the hardware weren't enough)... only if they bend over for quicktime. :eek: :D ;) :rolleyes:
 
man, I have a headache. I just bought my PBG4 two nights ago, and I just happen to run into this site, and I see all this about a new PowerBook?! Ugh!! Someone please tell me I didn't buy a piece of junk!!
 
tex210 said:
90nm g4's with a large cache I can accept. The 8x superdrive seems unreasonable for a portable, unless it steps down to 2x when not plugged in.

Are you saying we could see 90nm G4s with a larger cache (1MB?) for the PBs next week?

I like the superdrive idea. Makes sense. Could they also do that with the clockspeed to save power (from idle cycles and fan)?
 
mooshoo said:
man, I have a headache. I just bought my PBG4 two nights ago, and I just happen to run into this site, and I see all this about a new PowerBook?! Ugh!! Someone please tell me I didn't buy a piece of junk!!

Why would you think that? You must have liked your powerbook two days ago when you bought it. It still does everything that it did before you came to this site. Why would you think it is a piece of junk?

...computers will always be updated. Do you lose sleep when Honda brings out the 2004 civics and yours is still a lowely old 2003?

Enjoy your computer, it's a great model!
 
Trekkie said:
I'd actually like a 1.6GHz G5 21" iMac.

Could really use a new iMac

ohhhh, that would be awesome, i'll be right behind you, second in line.
i have been polishing my amex so hard, it is gleaming :)
 
aswitcher said:
Which really sux. Its being done IMHO to help prop up their powerbook line.

well, yes, marketing usually sucks. as a tech point of view apple should not even have ibooks, but only offer one 12" powerbook model, one 15" powerbook model and one 17" powerbook model - not any ibooks which have obsolete technology - and not two powerbooks model of the same screen size. and ipods, too, apple should only sell the largest ipod (mini of course is a different thing) and skip the lower capacities altogether. in tech point of view, i remind you.

these are all marketing decisions and just plain sucks if you think about it. but without aggressive marketing, apple would sell a lot less. however, if there was less differentiations in models, apple could reduce the price a little thus making the top-of-the-line more attractive.

it has always been like this; tech department makes the best and marketing department sells the cheapest.
 
iBook is a heavy seller - even though it's "obsolete" technology...some people settle for "less".

i have a dual 2 G5 and a 800 G3 ibook - a perfect match I would say. i have at least "created" 4 switchers that love their iBooks...

Even though we have 1.25 Ghz eMacs we also need headless (Cube) switcher-model for 599$ to bring over even more switchers! And, it doesn't matter that much if it's a 1.25 Ghz G4, 32 MB VRAM etc - lot's of people "settle" with that for wordprocessing, Internet, iPhoto, iTunes etc
 
Trekkie said:
I'd actually like a 1.6GHz G5 21" iMac.

Could really use a new iMac

I agree.

Although, it'd be nice if 1.6GHz was the low end iMac and thehigh end ran 2.0GHz :D
 
mooshoo said:
man, I have a headache. I just bought my PBG4 two nights ago, and I just happen to run into this site, and I see all this about a new PowerBook?! Ugh!! Someone please tell me I didn't buy a piece of junk!!

OK then-your powerbook isn't a piece of junk.

But no, really, powerbooks kick ass-I've got one, the origional 17 inch. And I know how easy it is to feel it's junk when you frequent a site like this, where people often claim they're all outdated junk, and man, I don't even have the updated version! But seriously, don't think about it, b/c what matters is how it works for what you do, and if you're impressed with it's abilities there (as I most certainly am with mine) then who cares what else there is out there? Not to mention-dude, it's a computer. It's guarenteed to be junk in no time flat. That's just the pace of things. Or, at least it will look like you paid a rediculous ammount for it.

But it's a powerbook. It's powerful. It's thin. It's light (or at least fairly light). It looks cool as F*** (will that be censored?). It's got amazing capabilities. And it's a fricking mac-you can't go wrong with that purchase.
 
dieselg4 said:
I'll take a wild guess:

17" gets 1.5 G4 (128MB graphics?) FW800
$2799
15" gets 1.5 G4, 1.33 G4, both back lit keyboards (128 MB graphics?) FW800
$1999, $2399
12" gets 1.33 G4, 1.25 G4 (64 MB graphics) both backlit keyboards? FW800
$1599, $1799

iBook 14" gets 1.25 G4, 1.0 G4 (prob still 32MB graphics) FW400
$1199, $1399
iBook 12" gets 933 G4, 32MB graphics FW400
$999

BLATANT specualtion, poisoned with a dash of hope


My guess is as follows:

PB:

17" 1.5 GHz G4, 512 MB RAM, 128 MB VRAM, other specs same as on current 17"
15" 1.5 GHz G4, 512 MB RAM 128 MB VRAM, other specs same as on current high end PB 15"

15" 1.25 GHz G4, 256 MB RAM, 64 MB VRAM, backlit keyboard, other specs same as on current low end PB 15"

12" 1.25 GHz G4, 256 MB RAM, 64 MB VRAM, other specs same as on current PB 12" (no FW 800, no backlit keyboard!)

iBook:

12" 1 GHz G4, 256 MB RAM, 32 MB VRAM, 40 GB HD, BT built in, other specs same as on current iBook 12"

14" 1 GHz G4, other speces sames as on 12" iBook

14" 1 GHz G4, 60 GB HD, other specs same as on 12" iBook

But I wonder why Apple would release them on a Monday. Either they release all laptops silently on Tuesday, April 20 or PBs are announce at NAB on Sunday while iBooks will be released silently on Monday or possibly Tuesday.
 
QCassidy352 said:
There's absolutely no way I could use a 14" laptop at 1400x1050!

I had a 15" Alienware laptop @1600x1200, took about two weeks to get used to, but then that screen real estate came in handy! (It got stolen after a month and a half though...)

Personally I'd like to see a widescreen 12", that would be nifty.
 
Australian mac store build times

The Australian mac store has build times of 1 to 2 days on portables,
evidence to the contrary i suppose, maybe sweden and norway just have a shortage or sumthin? anyone checked any other countries?

Powermac D2Ghz have a build time of 3-5 days though hmmmmmm.

US has 3-5 on PB's

Oh well its all a bit contradictory isnt it?

Only time will tell
 
oh joy. this one sounds authentic to me.
my current computer is a Wallstreet powerbook 233MHz so even the lowest end iBook is going to be a vast improvement :D
what i'd love to see in the new ibooks:
- pcmcia support - i don't expect to see :( this but that's the only thing that's kept my wallstreet going all these years (usb/firewire) and without which i would never have purchased an ipod :)
- superdrive as an option
- higher screen resolution for the top-end 14"
- 80GB hard drive option
 
fener said:
ahem

requires Registration to read (even its free, didnt check). u have a direct link?

Here's the full text:

RealNetworks Seeks a Musical Alliance With Apple
By JOHN MARKOFF and STEVE LOHR

Published: April 15, 2004



ealNetworks made a direct appeal last week to Apple Computer, its Internet music rival, suggesting that the two companies form a common front against Microsoft in the digital music business.

The offer to create a "tactical alliance" was made on April 9 by Rob Glaser, chief executive of RealNetworks, the Seattle-based Internet music and video service, in an e-mail message to Steven P. Jobs, Apple's chairman.

But if an alliance with Apple could not be struck, Mr. Glaser strongly hinted in the e-mail message that he might be forced to form a partnership with Microsoft to pursue "very interesting opportunities" because support for Microsoft's media-playing software seems to be growing.

A pact with Microsoft would be a startling reversal for RealNetworks, whose complaints about Microsoft's business tactics form a major part of the European Commission's antitrust case against the company.

Mr. Glaser, the founder of RealNetworks, is a former executive of Microsoft who left on friendly terms but later became a bitter rival after Microsoft decided that media-playing software would be crucial to its long-term growth. The overture from Mr. Glaser to Mr. Jobs also reflects the scramble among major technology and media companies to jockey for advantage as the market for music - and eventually movies - distributed legally over the Internet is starting to take off.

Apple is clearly the early leader with its iTunes online music store, which downloads and plays songs only on Apple's popular iPod handheld devices. Besides RealNetworks, a pioneer in software for distributing and playing music and video, major companies are entering the market.

Microsoft is gaining ground and making deals. This week, it agreed to pay $440 million to settle a private suit over patent claims and to strike a licensing deal with InterTrust Technologies, an early developer of copyright protection software.

Microsoft is expected to offer its own digital music store before long. And Sony has said it will start a music store later this year. It is developing its own media-player devices, which, given Sony's reputation for stylish design and clever marketing, could prove to be strong competition for the iPod. Sony has not announced when its devices will be introduced.

It is against this backdrop that the timing and details of Mr. Glaser's offer to Mr. Jobs are particularly intriguing. In his message, which was obtained by The New York Times from a person close to Apple, Mr. Glaser asked Mr. Jobs to consider licensing Apple's Fairplay digital rights management system to RealNetworks to permit customers of the RealNetworks music service to play their digital music collections on iPod players.

In exchange, RealNetworks would make the iPod its primary device for the RealNetworks store and for the RealPlayer software.

The message notes that both RealNetworks and Apple support the same digital music technology standard, known as AAC. But because it is not possible for RealNetworks' encrypted music services, Rhapsody and the Real music store, to be played on iPod, RealNetworks is considering switching to Microsoft's competing WMA format, which would make the RealNetworks services work seamlessly with Microsoft's technology.

"We are seeing very interesting opportunities to switch to WMA," Mr. Glaser wrote. "Instinctively I don't want to do it because I think it leads to all kinds of complexities in terms of giving Microsoft too much long-term market momentum."

Apple executives would not comment on the message. But it seems likely Mr. Jobs will rebuff the offer. Mr. Glaser said he had not received a response from Mr. Jobs, and in his e-mail message Mr. Glaser said he was going to be in Silicon Valley this week and suggested that he meet with Apple executives today.

Mr. Glaser has been vocal in his condemnation of what he considers Apple's proprietary strategy and he has said he believes the strategy is a mistake. Apple is running the risk of following the same path it took in its development of its personal computer, he argued.

It is widely believed in the PC industry that Apple's refusal to license its Macintosh operating system in the late 1980's contributed to the operating system monopoly of Microsoft's Windows.

Mr. Glaser has recently tried to act as a neutral broker in the competition between different hardware standards, while Mr. Jobs has been pursuing a more proprietary approach, making digital music from Apple's iTunes store playable only on iPod.

Apple, however, notes that it is open to deals with other companies. It recently formed a partnership with Hewlett-Packard, allowing Hewlett to distribute iPod devices and load Apple's iTunes software on its consumer PC's.

Subscribers to AOL, Apple adds, can also download music from the iTunes music store. Still, these deals are mainly distribution agreements with other companies, and do not require Apple to open its technology so that other music services and devices can work with the Apple offerings.

"Apple is not into interoperability," said an industry executive with connections to both the computer and music industries. "Steve's bet is that he can beat the big guys, Sony and Microsoft - with better marketing."

A number of industry executives said, however, that Mr. Jobs was under increasing pressure from both his music industry partners and from Hewlett-Packard to open up his digital music service.

The situation in the digital music industry is complex and changing very rapidly. Events like the European ruling against Microsoft's bundling of its media player into the Windows operating system could force the company to rethink its digital media strategy.

At the same time Microsoft has clearly been moving to settle as many of its legal entanglements as quickly as possible. In recent weeks it has settled lawsuits with Sun Microsystems and with InterTrust.

By putting many legal problems behind it, Microsoft would be freer to compete aggressively with Apple in the music market, analysts said.

"Real understands how incredibly powerful the Microsoft music initiative will be," said Richard Doherty, a computer industry consultant and president of Envisioneering. "I don't think that Jobs understands this. He doesn't realize how big the juggernaut is about to get."

In his e-mail message to Mr. Jobs, Mr. Glazer said that he was reaching out to Mr. Jobs before making a move to switch camps. Mr. Glaser said he was surprised that the proposal had been leaked.

"Why is Steve afraid of opening up the iPod?" he asked in a telephone interview. "Steve is showing a high level of fear that I don't understand."
 
and now for my new model predictions...

15" PB... ah no. i haven't really been following the PB rumors that closely to be able to predict that stuff this time around. :p

i'm happy with my 15" Al PB, this next revision will be one that i'm skippinng. next stop for me, PowerBook G5! :D

but it will be interesting seeing what the new specs are... and which rumors sites had the closest guess. ;)
 
7on said:
Magnetic Data Storage (Hard drives) == Slow transfer speeds == Me not getting a computer till RAMDISKs.

yes... sounds as ridiculous.


You are kidding right? Seriously. Your kidding. The PowerBook system bus is the single biggest bottleneck in the entire freaking system right now. You have this 1.33Ghz CPU with 266MHz RAM being killed by a pathetic system bus speed. Current PC laptops are aprox three times the speed and it shows in any benchmark you run. The current situation with the PowerBooks is the predicament where the PowerMacs where at about a year ago and speedbumping the freaking CPU isn't going to solve the problem.

PS- As for your hard drive example. Why do you think HD manufacturers are putting bigger and bigger caches on the drives. :p
 
dontmatter said:
OK then-your powerbook isn't a piece of junk.

But no, really, powerbooks kick ass-I've got one, the origional 17 inch. And I know how easy it is to feel it's junk when you frequent a site like this, where people often claim they're all outdated junk, and man, I don't even have the updated version! But seriously, don't think about it, b/c what matters is how it works for what you do, and if you're impressed with it's abilities there (as I most certainly am with mine) then who cares what else there is out there? Not to mention-dude, it's a computer. It's guarenteed to be junk in no time flat. That's just the pace of things. Or, at least it will look like you paid a rediculous ammount for it.

But it's a powerbook. It's powerful. It's thin. It's light (or at least fairly light). It looks cool as F*** (will that be censored?). It's got amazing capabilities. And it's a fricking mac-you can't go wrong with that purchase.


I couldn't agree more!

Hi I am Mike, and I am new Mac convert. I am a Visual Communication Technologies Major at Bowling Green State University, and they told me Mac's were the tool of the trade. I now see why. They truly are built by designers for designers (and anyone else that wants a kick ass computer)

Mike
 
First, I do believe notebook updates are imminent.

Second, some stuff to think about. A 1.5GHz processor in a Powerbook would be rather welcome. From my point of view, the difference between a G4 and a G5 (right now) doesn't matter for a laptop. Their will still be a 2GB memory limitation. The bus speed might be the biggest factor. The 15" and 17" Powerbooks use DDR 333 (167MHz bus) curently. An updated G4 might use a slightly faster bus (I haven't seen specs on the 1.5GHz G4). So, the main difference is bus speed. But you know something, you'r still limited to harddrive speeds for a lot of things.

I will take a 1.5GHz G4 Powerbook with other incremental updates. A 2x Superdrive is fine as long as it can burn 2x on 4x media. 2x Media is going to become very hard to find real soon.

I guess we'll see what actually gets announced in a few days. And we'll see how well the updates sell.
 
My money's on new SuperDrive equipped iBooks next week - the iBook is the only remaining computer in Apple lineup that currently doesn’t have a SuperDrive. :cool:
 
Bear said:
First, I do believe notebook updates are imminent.

Second, some stuff to think about. A 1.5GHz processor in a Powerbook would be rather welcome. From my point of view, the difference between a G4 and a G5 (right now) doesn't matter for a laptop. Their will still be a 2GB memory limitation. The bus speed might be the biggest factor. The 15" and 17" Powerbooks use DDR 333 (167MHz bus) curently. An updated G4 might use a slightly faster bus (I haven't seen specs on the 1.5GHz G4). So, the main difference is bus speed. But you know something, you'r still limited to harddrive speeds for a lot of things.

Yeah, the bus is a big issue that the G5 should resolve...+faster ram +optimised software/os over the next few years. So better speed, and even faster later.

I also think a 17 and maybe the 15 could take 4 sticks of ram...but its a no technical guess on my part. If they could then that would be very welcome.

I will take a 1.5GHz G4 Powerbook with other incremental updates. A 2x Superdrive is fine as long as it can burn 2x on 4x media. 2x Media is going to become very hard to find real soon.

I guess we'll see what actually gets announced in a few days. And we'll see how well the updates sell.

I hope the Superdrive goes 4x to avoid any issues about impending redundancy. I like the idea as suggested by another poster that they squeeze a x8 in that runs at 2x when on batteries and 8x when on mainline power.
 
jcshas said:
My money's on new SuperDrive equipped iBooks next week - the iBook is the only remaining computer in Apple lineup that currently doesn’t have a SuperDrive. :cool:

Can't see it happening because of cost and clash with powerbook line at present which seems to be staying at G4 for a bit longer if rumors are to be believed. If Apple are willing to artifically cripple screen spanning on iBooks then I am confident it won't get an expensive superdrive for that and the cost reason.

A chip, bus, ram upgrade will probably happen. Not sure if anything else but cosmetics might change a part from that.
 
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