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glorfindel said:
If you click the link it specifically states G4s on Cincinnati's site... sad...
:(

" ...individual PowerBook G4 computers that enable the students to take their education with them on the road."

Oh well that was short-lived...

Doh
 
I'll throw my G4 into the water outside my office if they come out with G5 Powerbooks on Monday.

It ain't happening.

G4 1.5's at the top end - Motorola's been making them for at least two months.

*Hopes he doesn't have to throw his computer in the water* :eek:
 
What I'm hoping for:

12" 1GHz ibook, built in bluetooth, 40GB, up to 1Ghz RAM. My dream machine for my budget of $999. :cool:
 
iBook s may see a new form factor.

Apple changes the design of every line more or less every 3 years.

iBook 'iceBook' was introduced on May 1st, 2001. So, its been 3 years.

They are likely to indroduce a new form factor for the iBook.
 
Should this rumor be true, I only wish Apple would allow previous owners to pay to upgrade certain components (e.g., if the SuperDrive is 4x, we should be able to pay Apple to swap our 2x one). It is the same form factor, etc, and I would think the SuperDrive is not impacted by a different CPU.
 
NicoMan said:
Oh well that was short-lived...

Doh

Oh well, but at least updates are coming in the iminent future. My dad's an exec w/ CompUSA and says that their stock of Apples in our region is completely out and the Apple Rep has a meeting with them first thing on Monday morning concerning hardware. He doesn't have any more info than that right now... trust me, I've tried :)

:D
 
Hattig said:
There won't be G5 powerbooks next week - not if IBM is having difficulty making the 90nm ones and hasn't ramped up production yet. Unless you want a 1.2GHz G5 Powerbook anyway!

The Powerbooks will use the new 7447A G4, the one with power management / speedstep / powernow! style stuff. At least it had better do!

What this means is that Apple could run the Powerbook at 1.6GHz from mains to provide more computing power in that situation. When on battery it can run slower (and cooler) - and hopefully the power management will be based on processor load (like AMD's CoolnQuiet and Powernow) and not on preset states (like Intel's speedstep).

Hopefully there will be Radeon 9700-M graphics as well, and a decent wodge of graphics memory. 8x superdrive.

Ah, it isn't that long to find out.
I would have to agree with the G5 statement. According to Apple they are not expecting IBM to be at full steam until at least Q4 on the 90nm. I think they'll use the new G4's simply because they are a pin for pin compatible chip... no need to redesign the board, just new firmware to take care of the powerscaling etc.

Here's a link to some more info about the new G4

http://mrwsoftware.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?showstory=8.txt
 
wdlove said:
Welcome to MacRumors Forums Mike. Its great to have you as a switcher also. Are you a native Buckeye?

This is great news finally an actual upgrade to discuss. Hopefully Apple will wow us. Does anyone know if Steve is speaking on Sunday?

I am a Falcon (school mascot) first, a Buckeye second :p

As for me I am very excited to hear about the new release, buying a powerbook (and Adobe and Macromedia products) for my Sophmore year in college is going to be the fruit of my labor at McDonald's and Steak 'n' Shake.

I am new to the Mac world, but not to the Revolution against Microsoft. I have been switching back and forth between XP and Fedora Core 1 Linux.

Mike
 
And those L Store Laptops have got nothing on Macs. To date I have seen any laptop that is:

a) more visually appealing to look at than a Mac
b) thinner than a Mac
c) as quiet as a Mac
d) as light as a Mac

Mike
 
aswitcher said:
Can't see it happening because of cost and clash with powerbook line at present which seems to be staying at G4 for a bit longer if rumors are to be believed. If Apple are willing to artifically cripple screen spanning on iBooks then I am confident it won't get an expensive superdrive for that and the cost reason.

A chip, bus, ram upgrade will probably happen. Not sure if anything else but cosmetics might change a part from that.

Yes, but everyone said the same thing prior the introduction of a G4 iBook. I still think a superdrive equipped iBook is highly probable.
 
glorfindel said:
Oh well, but at least updates are coming in the iminent future. My dad's an exec w/ CompUSA and says that their stock of Apples in our region is completely out and the Apple Rep has a meeting with them first thing on Monday morning concerning hardware. He doesn't have any more info than that right now... trust me, I've tried :)

:D

I was at CompUSA Monday night, and the guy had two iBook's in stock at the store. I don't know what CompUSA stores normally have on hand though, so I am not sure if that means anything.

WANT:
12 inch iBook 933 or 1 GHz
40/60 GB HD
512 Ram standard
BT
Airport EXT
A decent graphics card upgrade
Same great battery life/same or maybe slightly thinner size?
I don't really care about Superdrive, but, if it's cheap enough, then why not!?

All this for 1099 plus a few bucks for the Accesories! :D

The ibook was already sweet, just a little slow on the processor side - considering the rave reviews the iBook already has, if they improve, it'll only be better for us!
 
BernerdJBean said:
I finally gave up on updates and broke down and ordered a new 15" PowerBook on Monday, which should arrive here on Friday.
If this rumor is in fact true...am I going to be screwed? What's Apple's policy on this sort of thing? If updates are announced on the 19th...that would be one week from the day I purchased it (direct through Apple).

Been a lurker for a while, and I look forward to your responses!

B.J.

Just like you, but I just got my new 15" pb by the end of last month. For your case, if this rumor is true, you would definitely get the new line. Why don't u give them a call and ask about that? ;)
 
jcshas said:
Yes, but everyone said the same thing prior the introduction of a G4 iBook. I still think a superdrive equipped iBook is highly probable.

I bet we won't see a Superdrive on iBooks this time. I think iBooks will get the Superdrive when the PowerBooks get a G5. Don't forget they have to differentiate the 12" PB from the iBooks. Unless they max out the 12" completely (i.e. at least 64 MB VRAM, 80 GB HD, 512 MB RAM standard, Airport Extreme built-in and a higher clock speed than the fastest iBook, not to mention backlit keyboard and FW800) it's not highly probable but highly unlikely.

()verBored said:
I was at CompUSA Monday night, and the guy had two iBook's in stock at the store. I don't know what CompUSA stores normally have on hand though, so I am not sure if that means anything.

WANT:
12 inch iBook 933 or 1 GHz
40/60 GB HD
512 Ram standard
BT
Airport EXT
A decent graphics card upgrade
Same great battery life/same or maybe slightly thinner size?
I don't really care about Superdrive, but, if it's cheap enough, then why not!?

All this for 1099 plus a few bucks for the Accesories! :D

The ibook was already sweet, just a little slow on the processor side - considering the rave reviews the iBook already has, if they improve, it'll only be better for us!

You'll get the 1 GHz 12" iBook with a 40 GB HD and BT but it will only have 256 MB RAM, still the Radeon 9200 with 32 MB VRAM and AE will be optional. Sorry. :)
 
()verBored said:
But it's fun to read "into it"!
I would find it hard to believe that offering discounts is standard practice when a customer wants to cancel. If that's true, then I will try to cancel my next order with apple!!! :rolleyes: Everyone should do it!

I just cancelled my eMac order and they offered me a free wireless keyboard and mouse if I kept it. I declined since I prefer the wired variety anyway. I just want a cheap Mac (iBook or eMac) and if the iBook gets updated I will get that instead (come on 1280x1024!).
 
jcshas said:
Yes, but everyone said the same thing prior the introduction of a G4 iBook. I still think a superdrive equipped iBook is highly probable.


That's true, but then what would justify a powerbook 12" over an iBook? It just seems odd to me that apple would do something like this. What would be the new advantages that the powerbook would have over the iBook? There has to be advantages, right?
 
Zaty said:
You get your answer right here from MacRumors frontpage:

What is IBM going to do with all of the processors not rated for 2.0GHz. Why not just put them in a 1.2Ghz - 1.6GHz G5 PB?
 
Zaty said:
You'll get the 1 GHz 12" iBook with a 40 GB HD and BT but it will only have 256 MB RAM, still the Radeon 9200 with 32 MB VRAM and AE will be optional. Sorry. :)

Oh, and you KNOW THIS for certain huh? :p

Even with that config I would still be bustin at the seams with excitement. The Radeon 9200 ain't a bad graphics card, far better than you see in practically any other laptop at the same price point (screw intel integrated graphics!). I am almost willing to bet money they will put the GeForce FX 5200 GO in the iBooks though. And if the price point of the lowend iBook is going to be $999, then I bet it will have a 933 MHz processor (the difference between the 1 GHz and 933 MHz isn't enough to worry about it though - of course, the 1 GHz would be best!)...
 
()verBored said:
Oh, and you KNOW THIS for certain huh? :p
I am almost willing to bet money they will put the GeForce FX 5200 GO in the iBooks though.
I sure hope not considering the ATI 9200 is better than the 5200.

The crappy 5200 is the #1 reason I have not bought a 12" PB. It is arguable which is more powerful, the 12" ibook or the PB due to the horrible video card Apple gave the PB.
 
()verBored said:
Oh, and you KNOW THIS for certain huh? :p

Even with that config I would still be bustin at the seams with excitement. The Radeon 9200 ain't a bad graphics card, far better than you see in practically any other laptop at the same price point (screw intel integrated graphics!). I am almost willing to bet money they will put the GeForce FX 5200 GO in the iBooks though. And if the price point of the lowend iBook is going to be $999, then I bet it will have a 933 MHz processor (the difference between the 1 GHz and 933 MHz isn't enough to worry about it though - of course, the 1 GHz would be best!)...

Of course, I don't know the specs. As for the processor I think they will put a 1 GHz processor into the 12" iBook because 1GHz looks so much better than 933 MHz and as you said performance wise, it's not much of a difference. Furthermore, it would mean that the sub-1 GHz era is over. A 40 GB HD seems very likely as this is now the standard size for laptop HDs. I'm not sure if BT will be built in but since it's not a user upgradeable part, It would make sense to offer the iBook w/BT. Lastly, I don't think they change graphic chips. Now that the eMac also has the 9200, it's more economical to use it in the iBooks as well. Remember, before the iBook got the 9200, it had the 7500 as did the eMac until the latest update.
 
a little of the topic, but would an aluminum diamond plate PB look really cool...all crome and stuff, sure it would scratch easily and lose all appeal after about a month but damn it would be awsome untill then
 

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CombatWombat said:
I sure hope not considering the ATI 9200 is better than the 5200.

The crappy 5200 is the #1 reason I have not bought a 12" PB. It is arguable which is more powerful, the 12" ibook or the PB due to the horrible video card Apple gave the PB.

The 5200 is not any more crappy than the 9200. The 9200 scores better benchmarks in games while the 5200 scores in other tasks. All in all they are in the same league. But you are right insofar as it's a bit of joke that the PB doesn't have a better graphics chip than the iBook.
 
You have to wonder.

The 1.6 Ghz G5 970 should be the most abundant due to the lower clock speed yet Apple only offers a single 1.6 Ghz 970 G5 PowerMac while offering dual 1.8 and 2.0 Ghz 970 G5 PowerMacs.

I think it would be logical to see the the very same 1.6 Ghz 970 G5 used in the iMacs while using a 1.4 to 1.6 Ghz 970fx G5 in the PowerBooks.

I don't think it will happen though.
 
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