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Apple Preparing to Launch 27-Inch LED Cinema Display, Mac Pro Update by June?
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New 30" HP $1,299
Anybody see this new HP 30" monitor yet? It looks REAL interesting...
My question is would it work with my new 17" MBP given the duel link DVI issue with the HP. (Bottom of first page of review) "Just dont expect passive DisplayPort to DVI adapters or other single link DVI interfaces to drive the ZR30w; it wont work. I experimented with a single link connection just for fun, and the ZR30w refused to show an image."
I wonder if the Apple Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter will work. Hmmm
Anybody see this new HP 30" monitor yet? It looks REAL interesting...
My question is would it work with my new 17" MBP given the duel link DVI issue with the HP. (Bottom of first page of review) "Just dont expect passive DisplayPort to DVI adapters or other single link DVI interfaces to drive the ZR30w; it wont work. I experimented with a single link connection just for fun, and the ZR30w refused to show an image."
I wonder if the Apple Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter will work. Hmmm
That HP's got a Display Port input, as any 30" diplay nowadays. Just use that. No need for adapters. You just need a cheap Mini-DP to regular DP cable. (monoprice has got them).
Great... I checked it out... Thanks
Now it's decision time.... The Apple Cinema HD 30" Display or this new HP ZR30w... Hmmmm...
I'd get the HP. The Apple 30" is EOL. 6 year old technology. To me, it is a no brainer. But that's just me.
Yeah. It's a step backwards in color accuracy from the previous HP, but it's launching a much lower price and has improved response times, input lag, and an even wider gamut.
Since I don't get the impression you need color-critical performance, it's more than sufficiently accurate for you.
It will, but as someone else said, you don't need it unless you're connecting two DP Macs to the monitor simultaneously.
Definitely the HP. The Apple still has the color edge, but there's no way it's worth the $400 price difference for the given usage scenario.I'd get the HP. The Apple 30" is EOL. 6 year old technology. To me, it is a no brainer. But that's just me.
I use Photoshop and Lightroom for my photo editing. You say it's a step back from the HP LP3065 or ???
What makes you say Apple has the "color edge"... Just curious.. This is all new to me...
Yes. You can see the objective data directly in the Anandtech link.
Because the Apple Cinema Display has the slight edge on the Dell 3007, which outperforms this new HP.
The differences, however, are minor, and only of significance to certain kinds of professionals. The new HP is a better monitor than the 3065 overall, but it is weaker in color accuracy. Likewise, it is weaker in color accuracy than the Apple Cinema Display, but the Apple's improvements in that area are not $400 better for your purposes. People who do color critical work necessarily need to know enough about color theory, optics, and calibration to take advantage of it. These are people for whom the Apple and similar displays are entry-level units.
For the overwhelming majority of the population, including many professionals, either would be equally satisfactory, and thus the HP is the better buy with a faster panel, a wider gamut, and a much lower price.
Ok... Thanks for all your info... I will check out the Dell 3007. I have to admit, I haven't looked at Dell much because of the unresolved problems they have been having with some of their panels.
btw... I called HP today. They offer to extend the warranty out to 5 years for an extra $159. They also have on site service for all warranty repairs. They will pay shipping both ways for factory service as well. I know Eizo has a 5 year warranty... LaCie, 3 years...
Also, from what I read from this review, tha ACD doesn't have a very wide Adobe RGB color gamut at all. I'm a little confused as to why the ACD has the "edge" when it lacks in the Adobe RGB gamut range...
Like I said... I'm new at all this so I'm learning a lot and trying to understand it all...
Thanks for your patience...
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yes, there is more chance..
What are the chances that the 27" LED Cinema Display will have the dreaded YELLOW TINT?
yes, there is more chance..
it doesnt make any sense to me why it takes apple forever to introduce new desktops. Its just PC hardware in a nice looking case
Haven't you heard? Apple is in the iToy business these days.
After Jobs dies they're hiring Willie Wonka and going into chocolate.
Chocolate frisbees and slinkys.
Its just PC hardware in a nice looking case
That only shows how little you know.
Starting to get really annoyed. What is taking them so long? I'm so sick of getting my hopes up with these rumors. Just come out already!
I agree. I've been annoyed for quite a while. But, unfortunately, it won't happen until September or October.
I agree. I've been annoyed for quite a while. But, unfortunately, it won't happen until September or October.
Yes and isn't that really pathetic in all honesty? Imagine if PC's upgraded on that cycle. Half the computer parts companies out there would be out of business. I just don't get it. I'm trying to be patient and tell myself it's just around the corner, but this particular corner is turning out to be a long highway with no exits in sight. I need to get my mind on something else for a while.
Physician, heal thyself, first.
A Mac is more than just standard "PC" parts, otherwise I would just be able to put in an Mac OSX disc and click install... or are all these complicated software hacks just a waste of everybody's time?
Stupidity, I start with you.
No problem; you're quite welcome.
Why?
First, because the ACD isn't a wide gamut display, and second, because comparing an Apple to an Eizo is going the complete opposite direction from comparing the HP to the Apple. The Apple display, as I said, is entry-level for color professionals. The new HP doesn't even achieve that much--it's an excellent "prosumer" display that is a far better value than the Apple display, but if you set color accuracy standards at at least the ACD standard, the HP is not a competitor. The 3065 was, but this new product cuts some corners in exchange for improvements that benefit a larger audience (which is a smart move for HP).
You're not going to find better all around performance in that price class right now, and you're not in a position to care about higher price classes. Even if you've got the money to spare, you personally won't benefit from doing so at this time.
Color accuracy isn't the same as color space. Color accuracy is the ability to represent colors in a true-to-life fashion based on calibration reference points, within the color space of the display.
In other words, the ability to store more colors in a reference table in hardware has little to do with the ability to show those colors accurately. It's a classic "more is not better" situation. If I offered to show you 100 colors with perfect accuracy or 110 colors most of which weren't quite right, you would generally take the 100 perfect colors. There is sometimes benefit to a wider gamut, but it has to be weighed along with all other performance factors.
Yes, you always start AND finish with stupidity, Apple rep. Software and hardware blocks against installing Mac OS in no way refute his assertion.
The existence of hundreds of thousands of hackintoshes, on the other hand, PROVE it.
Be sure to give Steve a kiss for us.
I agree. I've been annoyed for quite a while. But, unfortunately, it won't happen until September or October.
At some point people are going to get annoyed enough where they start looking around and buy something else...
Aauuuhhhh... (a little light bulb goes on) I'm beginning to understand... Thanks so much for your information AND patience... It's much appreciated...
Apple provide no software blocks to stop Mac OSX from installing on other hardware. PCEFI literally just emulates an EFI environment, Chameleon is just a bootloader that also loads kexts, and we only need custom kexts because Apple doesn't provide drivers for every piece of hardware on the planet.
The reason why Atom and AMD CPUs don't work without modifying the kernel first is because there are no #CPUID lines of code to make them compatible.
Please, at least provide a challenge.