roadbloc
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I'ma let you finish but I don't think you have a clue what you are on about.
iWork '10. 🙄
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Apple Prepping for iWork '11 Mac App Store Launch?
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iWork '10. 🙄
I can't wait to get the new edition of pages seperate from the package. It is really all I have use for.
George Knighton
macrumors 65816
I use iWork quite a bit and find it a very viable and useful alternative to MS Office, and in some ways superior and easier to operate than Office.
I do not, so far, have much use for the applications in iLife, but I'm still learning. 🙂
George Knighton
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charlituna
macrumors G3
I agree that it is a given that iWork, and maybe eventually iLife, will be on the MacApp Store. And as individual titles.
The question seems to be if they will be retail also. And the pricing. Right now I can get all 3 for $79, or $49 if I am buying a computer. Pricing on the promo pages appears to be $19.99 each. Making all 3 cost less than the full retail but more than the in store promo.
Since new buyers are a prime time to push this store that seems a tad off. So either one or both pricing will change or they could cut in store boxes.
Or what I would do which would be to drop the box and then preload iWork on new machines. As I recall you are asked to enter or setup your AppleId when you do the whole setup thing. I'm sure Apple could code a way to set up the store knowing you have 'purchased' the apps so you get th appropriate updates. And then by dropping the box and making existing users go online they cut the potential bad will from folks that want to get the latest and greatest but there's no discount for them.
charlituna
macrumors G3
Most of these folks bad mouthing iPhoto are likely talking about the glitch in the original iPhoto 11 release. The one that deleted all their photos. Catch is that for 99.9% of the affected parties, it didn't. The photos were all still there. Just their library wad corrupted so the software couldn't find the photos and thus showed an empty collection. People were screaming about Apple rushing software, not bothering to test it etc. Basically the same thing that happens every time there is something wrong with Apple stuff. apple doesn't get the same 'it is impossible to test every single possible combination' that all other companies do, because it is Apple
The rest of the screamers just like to call things crap if it isnt exactly what they think it should be, even if the group that would want a feature is a vast minority. Again, same old same old in the Apple world
That ain't it.
iPhoto 11 has lost some functionality. For one, you can't get your keywords to show up under the pics even though it's an option in the View menu.
Somebody said this was an Aperture thing but I haven't quite figured that out yet.
I know where you are coming from. the overall thought of the mac app store gets me excited. I know I am not alone.
MacAddict1978
macrumors 68000
I'm still on iWork 08. The last upgrade was mostly new templates and light on features.
Did they happen to add an auto-save feature to Pages 09? (I might have missed it browsing the free trial.) It is not in 08, and that's an epic fail. Word autosaves every minute for me so chances are I'm not going to loose much if there's a crash or power failure. When you're writing, spamming cntrl-s isn't on your mind when you're working.
I've used Numbers to make stylish looking hand outs for sales goals and the like for my employees. For presenting printed material it really does a great job. As a stand alone spread sheet I've always found Excel a better option. I wish Numbers could bring the functionality of both.
I am curious to see if they bring improvements! In so many ways Appleworks (and was included with the OS) was more featured than iWork. The potential really is there if Apple would just develop the product more.
Did they happen to add an auto-save feature to Pages 09? (I might have missed it browsing the free trial.) It is not in 08, and that's an epic fail. Word autosaves every minute for me so chances are I'm not going to loose much if there's a crash or power failure. When you're writing, spamming cntrl-s isn't on your mind when you're working.
I've used Numbers to make stylish looking hand outs for sales goals and the like for my employees. For presenting printed material it really does a great job. As a stand alone spread sheet I've always found Excel a better option. I wish Numbers could bring the functionality of both.
I am curious to see if they bring improvements! In so many ways Appleworks (and was included with the OS) was more featured than iWork. The potential really is there if Apple would just develop the product more.
Keynote > PowerPoint
Word > Pages
Excel > Numbers
Outlook 2011 / Entourage just plain sucks
Got Office 11 for 15 SGD with Microsoft's HUP program! Totally worth it!
Don't use Outlook...but all the other apps are worth it in the interests of compatibility with everyone else...
Don't use Outlook...but all the other apps are worth it in the interests of compatibility with everyone else...
I gave it a negative rating because I would prefer it on Physical media and fear that they just might not offer that option. You know Apple, our way or the highway.
rhett7660
macrumors G5
As long as they give me the option to download it and I know where the location of the download is I don't care for the physical media. I have plenty of software that doesn't have the physical media to go with it. But I do have it backed up. As long as I know I can get to it if I need to, then I don't care if there is physical media. I actually prefer that there isn't any physical media.
But I will agree, if there is no way of me getting to the file and it is all saved on in the "cloud", that is is another story.
Excellently summed up.
Keynote is definitely superior to Powerpoint for it's templates, graphics, and well.. just being Apple.
Word and Excel are far superior than their Apple counterparts if not only for their compatibility with existing solutions and effectiveness in getting the job done.
Outlook for Mac... Just use Mail.
Probably be in your itunes folder
If they are going to make you download mac apps through itunes for the mac store, then it will probably create a separate folder under itunes. Like ipad/iphone apps appear under the "Mobile Applications" folder. Maybe called Mac Apps, which will hold all the PKG and DMG's. My hope is one day to allow ipad apps to run on the mac. Would be nice, but due to touchscreen; that may be a long way off - unless they give us a trackpad that is also a screen so we know where we are touching. Many nice apps at a good price in the app store - that I need on my mac.
And before anyone asks. I have 218 apps. My ipad can do everything (except heavy video editing - although I have a few light ones like RealDirector for when I need video editing on the go) that I do on my mac. with folders in IOS 4.2, everything is neatly organized on one screen.
My next hope for an app; would be a version of the livescribe desktop for syncing my pen. then I would truly have absolutely no need to carry my macbook on a trip; and I would get a wall charger for the pen.
I know there are many apps like livescribe for the ipad (and I have them) - but at times conventional paper is better. I tend to draw a lot of diagrams, circle things, write in the margines, etc. Paper is faster to do that when you are in a seminar and the teacher moves fast.
If they are going to make you download mac apps through itunes for the mac store, then it will probably create a separate folder under itunes. Like ipad/iphone apps appear under the "Mobile Applications" folder. Maybe called Mac Apps, which will hold all the PKG and DMG's. My hope is one day to allow ipad apps to run on the mac. Would be nice, but due to touchscreen; that may be a long way off - unless they give us a trackpad that is also a screen so we know where we are touching. Many nice apps at a good price in the app store - that I need on my mac.
And before anyone asks. I have 218 apps. My ipad can do everything (except heavy video editing - although I have a few light ones like RealDirector for when I need video editing on the go) that I do on my mac. with folders in IOS 4.2, everything is neatly organized on one screen.
My next hope for an app; would be a version of the livescribe desktop for syncing my pen. then I would truly have absolutely no need to carry my macbook on a trip; and I would get a wall charger for the pen.
I know there are many apps like livescribe for the ipad (and I have them) - but at times conventional paper is better. I tend to draw a lot of diagrams, circle things, write in the margines, etc. Paper is faster to do that when you are in a seminar and the teacher moves fast.
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Hope it's de-bugged better than iLife 11
I've learned my lesson about being an early adopter with iLife11. Different product I know. Just saying .... same company policy concerning quality control and beta testing?
I've learned my lesson about being an early adopter with iLife11. Different product I know. Just saying .... same company policy concerning quality control and beta testing?
charlituna
macrumors G3
Now that is a valid. Although you should be calling it iweb still on '09 because they didn't update it.
Sites like Blogger and Wordpress plus programs like Rapidweaver and Macflux really highlight the issues with iWeb.
Things like the inability to really customize your pages and/or make your own templates. The ugly coding with bloated CSS and multiple media folders. Poor handling of inserted HTML (particularly in that you can't place it relative to other features).
And then there's the lack of support for HTML5. Sure it is a baby in the web design world but if I want to use it, why not let me. Make it an 'advanced feature' if you must. But give me the option.
And then there's the MobileMe side of things. There's little to no tech features that make the site really useful as a server. For the money we pay they could at least give us a better commenting system or even something like the keywording/search features on Blogger and Wordpress. The customizing, comments and keywords are why I use Blogger and not iweb/mobileme. Such things have been around so long I'm really shocked Apple hasn't created their 'better' version yet
blacktape242
macrumors 68000
EdwinRojas
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iWork USED DAILY
I run a small home based company, and I use iWork daily for everything...numbers, pages, and keynote. They are wonderful and work seamlessly compared to MS Office. In fact, I have realized the last year I hardly use MS Office. There is no need for, and why would you want to spend twice the amount for MS Office as opposed to iWork when it even works better and more user friendly. I also trade files with business all over the world, and just save the files in an appropriate format that they can use (MS Office extensions).
I MISS AN UPGRADE FOR iWEB. I use it for my business' web site, and I would love refresh of this one.
I run a small home based company, and I use iWork daily for everything...numbers, pages, and keynote. They are wonderful and work seamlessly compared to MS Office. In fact, I have realized the last year I hardly use MS Office. There is no need for, and why would you want to spend twice the amount for MS Office as opposed to iWork when it even works better and more user friendly. I also trade files with business all over the world, and just save the files in an appropriate format that they can use (MS Office extensions).
I MISS AN UPGRADE FOR iWEB. I use it for my business' web site, and I would love refresh of this one.
shigzeo
macrumors 6502a
Sankersizzle
macrumors 6502a
I don't know how any person who uses a Mac in an academic setting could possibly say they prefer iWork to Office 2011.
Firstly, Pages has no citation manager. You have to buy a plugin, which pretty much boots the money you saved right in the nads. All my fellow students that I talk with agree that the lack of a built in citation manager in Pages is crippling. The last thing I want to do when I'm done my essay is add 50 automatically updating citations and create my own 2 page long bibliography. Word makes enormous works cited lists and what not as simple as a mouseclick. My friends who don't know about this feature are often on the verge of tears when they see me do it. This is an absolute deal breaker for me and many other people I know.
Keynote is far more equal to Powerpoint than Pages is to Word, but to someone who has to make serious presentations, I feel it falls quite short. I notice that Keynote takes all the things I hate about slideshow presentations (flashy transitions, moving text, other nonsensities) and shoves them right in your face.
Add on top of these issues that Excel simply cannot be beaten (as is the general consensus in this thread) and you have a winner in my eyes. I'm not a MS fanboy by any means, but come on everyone, lets give credit where credit is due.
Firstly, Pages has no citation manager. You have to buy a plugin, which pretty much boots the money you saved right in the nads. All my fellow students that I talk with agree that the lack of a built in citation manager in Pages is crippling. The last thing I want to do when I'm done my essay is add 50 automatically updating citations and create my own 2 page long bibliography. Word makes enormous works cited lists and what not as simple as a mouseclick. My friends who don't know about this feature are often on the verge of tears when they see me do it. This is an absolute deal breaker for me and many other people I know.
Keynote is far more equal to Powerpoint than Pages is to Word, but to someone who has to make serious presentations, I feel it falls quite short. I notice that Keynote takes all the things I hate about slideshow presentations (flashy transitions, moving text, other nonsensities) and shoves them right in your face.
Add on top of these issues that Excel simply cannot be beaten (as is the general consensus in this thread) and you have a winner in my eyes. I'm not a MS fanboy by any means, but come on everyone, lets give credit where credit is due.
It sounds like you have something wrong in your system. Shortcuts not working is not normal. Or conflicts, if you have set up your own shortcuts in any way.
This one confuses me. You want to save as again? When I open a Save As... dialog box, the name is already highlighted. I don't need to use Cmd-A or anything to select it again. So, I just start typing and put in the name I want. This is true in every program I use on both OSX and Windows. Are you sure you aren't doing something else first, to lose focus in the Name field?
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