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I wouldn't jump all over the Z just yet.

13.1" screen (Kind of explains the large drop from the MBP's weight, although I agree it's got the clear weight advantage on the MB)
You cannot get the HDD "in addition" to a SSD (I think you meant either/or but I'm just clarifying.)
"Hight performance discrete GPU" as you put it is a total joke of a 9300M GS, featuring a laughable 64-bit memory interface along with a poor 1500 point score in 3Dmark 06 (The current 8600M GT posts double that; see http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-9300M-GS.9452.0.html and http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-8600M-GT.3986.0.html for comparison)

Sony has clearly aimed at a market of professionals who do light lifting on the road (browsing, writing, email checking) and then hook their laptops to a projector for presentations. It's not meant for rendering or photo work while traveling or on site, like the MBP is.

I still don't get why you want a Blu-ray drive in a MBP, let alone a MB. It consumes battery power like no tomorrow (Don't listen to Sony's 6 hour claim, that's only due to the weak 9300M GS they put in it), you won't have the ability to take advantage of the increased resolution unless you go to the 17" MBP (at which point is ceases to be a notebook and turns into a desktop replacement, trust me I tried lugging one of those around and I've come to the conclusion that 15" is enough for me at least), further totaling your battery life, and if your response is I"ll hook it up to an external at home" then you have the option of just buying a stand alone or one to stick into your desktop.

In a world where Apple is REMOVING optical drives I would be suprised if they made such a design change. I'm not trying to say you can't or shouldn't have the option, but I fail to see the need.

Actually I don't really compare this to a MBP but I think it destroys the MBA. The MBA is 3 lbs. The Sony is 3.4 lbs. Yet the Sony has Montevina chipset with penryn cpu, 128 GB SSD, or 2.5" HDD instead of the slow 1.8" HDD, and discrete graphics vs. integrated graphics of the MBA, HDMI, 2 USB, FW, output compared to the MBA 1 USB port, also WiMAX card slot.

The only reason I mention Sony and compared it to the MBP, is that other posters were saying that BD was too expensive and wouldn't fit in MBP. Yet the Sony is lighter, cheaper, and smaller and it has a BD.

Personally, I don't need BD in a portable either, however I could see where video professionals might want BD burning capabilities in a MBP for portable HD content authoring. That is why I don't see the problem with a BTO in the new MBP for BD.
 
A. if things are more common or standardized it doesn't necessarily mean they are better. The wedge shape design is there just to fool people in to thinking they have a thin computer. And it also doesn't mean you get better cooling. What's a true professional laptop anyway. You have to be a Windows user to be a true professional now don't make me laugh.

The wedge shape is to fool people into thinking they're getting a thin computer? HAH. Thats the silliest thing I've heard all day.

First of all, it allows for better cooling. PCs have proper intakes and outputs for airflow and for the fan to circulate air throughout the system.

Second, its more ergonomic. How many keyboards out there, including Apples own, tilt up as it goes back? Same with notebook PCs.

A "true professional" laptop is actually built to take abuse. Won't scratch, dent, bend, or warp from heat like the MacBook Pro. They have multitudes of ports, USB ports, eSATA, memory card readers, HDMI outputs, workstation quality GPUs (not mid-low range GPUs like in the MacBook Pro). They're basically built to last, not built to last the length of the warranty like the MacBook Pro. Those from HP and Dell generally come with 3 years of on-site service standard as well.

The MacBook Pro is just a glorified and horribly overpriced consumer notebook with a "Pro" moniker thrown on to get people to think they're buying something thats better than it really is.

B. A tray loading optical drive isn't necessarily better. I've seen my share of busted tray's. And why would you want it to be user replaceable.

Hah, why would I want it to be user replaceable? Because its just that! If the unit is out of warranty, I can spend $50 and loosen a screw and swap it out myself. I don't have to pay anywhere from $150 up to $200 just for the DRIVE new and then either rip the ENTIRE SYSTEM apart or pay someone another $50-$100 in labor to put it in for me. With a use replaceable tray loader it can be replaced for $50 and less than 2 minutes of your time with no major surgery required for the computer itself.

Plus it means upgradeability as well. Look at my HP for instance. It shipped with a DVD writer. There are now standard height blu-ray readers and writers on the market. For less than the cost of a replacement SuperDrive for my MacBook I can upgrade my HP's drive to blu-ray! And keep that old one and throw it in an external case.

C. Finger print readers can be very easily fooled. So trust me on this one, if the mythbusters can do it you can too. So that means they aren't secure at all.

Fingerprint readers aren't for security, they're for convenience. When I'm on my HP, every site I go to that requires me to log-in.. well, I just swipe my index finger and its done for me. But on my Mac I have to type in my username and password every time.

Also, lets say you have multiple users on your computer. Let's say you have 4. On a Windows system with a fingerprint reader, when you're brought to the log-in screen after a fresh boot (or just waking it up), you have a little logo that says "swap finger to login" or you can click and enter your password like normal. So instead of each person having to login with their password each and every time, they swipe their finger and they're in faster. Then their passwords for every website and all of that they go to is stored and they just swipe their finger.

As I said, convenience.

D. What is up with memory card readers. Use the cable that came with your camera. If it wasn't supplied with your camera, return it and buy a proper camera. Oh and don't be fooled by usb 2.0 on camera's. It comes in two versions hi-speed and full-speed. http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm
I use my cable on my nikon D40 and it is just as fast as if I were to use a card reader.

Card readers are for convenience. I can pop out the card and have it in the reader in less than 1/4 the time it takes to plug the USB cable into the computer, plug it into the camera, turn the camera on, wait for it to connect to the computer, etc. Plus I don't have to worry about any messy wires getting all of the place.

Don't even get me started on how slow iPhoto is to import pictures.

E. The thing with dedicated graphics is that a very large percentage of standard consumers doesn't need dedicated graphics. Besides there aren't that many applications that truly use a graphics card anyway, games being the only acception and some stuff like FCP and Aperture.

On OS X there are not that many applications that use dedicated graphics. On Windows, however, there is one VERY important feature that many Apple fans either choose to ignore or are completely ignorant to.

That would be system wide hardware acceleration for video playback. In Windows, any software that plays video can have full access to the GPU. With dedicated GPUs from the last several generations, and with the current ATI and nVidia GPUs (only partially with the joke that is the X4500), you get FULL bitstream decoding for nearly every video format out there. You get decoding, deblocking, hardware deinterlacing, hardware upscaling, hardware color correction. Basically, EVERYTHING is done via the GPU. As a result, those new $600 HP dv5z notebooks can play blu-ray video at full bitrate and resolution. The difference in video quality between my Mac and HP with a GeForce is stunning. The difference in DVD playback between the two is as staggering as the difference between fuzzy analog TV and crystal clear broadcast HD sports.

It also takes load off of the CPU. My HP plays DVDs and the CPU use hovers around 2% of 1 core. On my Mac? Around 25% of 1 core. GPUs can do all of that work on DVDs in reduced power states. This consumes less power than Apple's approach, produces less heat, and produces much better video quality.

OS X does not have any kind of hardware acceleration for video playback.

F. And yes the MBP needs to be that thin. I carry my MBP with me on a daily basis. Fat PC laptops just are to damn big. And yes they get hot so what.

So what? Are you Steve Jobs in disguise? Its completely unacceptable when almost the entire notebook case is well over 40c because of improper cooling.

Its unacceptable that CPUs in the MacBook are running only a few degrees below their breaking point because Apple wants to be "cool and thin".

I carry my HP around on a daily basis too. It weighs a whole half pound more than a MacBook Pro. Big deal.

This point continues on after your next comment:

At least they don't start to huff and puff like PC laptops do. My nephew has a 17" toshiba laptop a Satellite Pro. Not a bad computer at all. And it has this giant ventilation grill at the back and on the sides. But when he does ordinary things the thing takes off. Now he doesn't mind the noise it makes. But I would have thrown the thing out of the window a longtime ago. My MBP is on all the time. When I'm at home I run apps like visualhub to convert video's to Apple Tv format. I sleep roughly 2 meters away from the damn thing and it is quiet no huffing and puffing. The only time when the fans start turning is when I play games. And that's because those fools at NVIDIA and ATI don't get that GPU's should be more power efficient and shouldn't produce so much damn heat.

Hey, I'll take that little bit of extra fan noise. Heres a real world example:

My Mac gets around 3.5 hours of real world battery life with the screen set to 50% brightness, wifi on, browsing. Anything below 50% is essentially unusable.

My HP also gets around 3.5 hours of real world battery life with the screen set to the lowest (though equal in terms of brightness to the Mac), wifi on, browsing, etc.

Even though the MacBook runs "quiet" (and I will admit, its dead quiet), it gets HOT. After half an hour of browsing sites with Flash or even watching a DVD, it gets too uncomfortable to use. My HP? I can sit through an entire movie and it won't feel warm at all and all you hear is the soft hum of a fan.

When I'm encoding video, the CPU on the MacBook peaks at 85c and hovers around 83c. On the HP? Around 62c and the case isn't even warm to the touch.

On the topic of ATI and nVidia, the GeForce in my HP peaks at 64c while gaming for hours on end on a warm night.

I'll take that extra little bit of thickness, or the soft hum of a fan, or even an extra half pound, if it means I can actually USE the system as portable without having to worry about my own fertility, my own comfort, or worrying about the overall lifespan of the system being affected by the high temperatures the poor case designs force the components to endure.

Right now my MacBook is idling at 60c. All I have open is Firefox (no flash) and Yahoo Messenger.

G. If you like PC laptops so much stick with those, nobody is forcing you t use a Mac.

I do. I have essentially switched back to Windows. The funny thing is, I had a friend who was an avid Mac user and switched to Windows a few years ago. When I got my Mac she told me I'd switch back to Windows. I didn't believe her. Yet it happened.

I have a Mac because I bought into the Apple lies/hype. Now I regret but I'm stuck with it. I haven't sold it yet because it would be hard to swallow the $500-$600 loss I would have to suffer by selling it.

OSX (Macs), iTunes (iPod, iPhones), iLife is all to support the sales of their hardware. Steve hooks us on the software so he can sell us the combo drive loaded macbooks while we bitch about the BD loaded, SSD totting, carbon fiber covered Sony Vaio Z's kicking Johnny Ive's white plastic macbooks a$$.

I broke out of the eco-system ;) All I need from Apple is my iPod and my iPhone. I certainly don't need OS X because it doesn't do all of what I need it to do.

And I'm certainly (no longer, already fooled me once! can't fool me again) not going to spend $1299, $1400+ after taxes, on a 13.3" system with integrated graphics.

I would be a happy Mac owner, however, if the MacBook had at least a GeForce 8400M GS in it. Then the Mac COULD do everything I need it to do and I would just have to skip the extra features. But Intel graphics that NEVER live up to performance promises and specs? No more. I made the mistake once, never again.

I wouldn't jump all over the Z just yet.

13.1" screen (Kind of explains the large drop from the MBP's weight, although I agree it's got the clear weight advantage on the MB)
You cannot get the HDD "in addition" to a SSD (I think you meant either/or but I'm just clarifying.)
"Hight performance discrete GPU" as you put it is a total joke of a 9300M GS, featuring a laughable 64-bit memory interface along with a poor 1500 point score in 3Dmark 06 (The current 8600M GT posts double that; see http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-...GS.9452.0.html and http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-...GT.3986.0.html for comparison)

Still leaps and bounds better than anything in the MacBook.

Any dedicated GPU from the 8400M GS and up is going to walk all over Intel's offerings no matter what Intel says.

Plus dedicated GPUs do wonders for video playback.

In Windows at least, no affect in OS X since its all software based.

I still don't get why you want a Blu-ray drive in a MBP, let alone a MB. It consumes battery power like no tomorrow (Don't listen to Sony's 6 hour claim, that's only due to the weak 9300M GS they put in it), you won't have the ability to take advantage of the increased resolution unless you go to the 17" MBP (at which point is ceases to be a notebook and turns into a desktop replacement, trust me I tried lugging one of those around and I've come to the conclusion that 15" is enough for me at least), further totaling your battery life, and if your response is I"ll hook it up to an external at home" then you have the option of just buying a stand alone or one to stick into your desktop.

Having blu-ray in your laptop gives you the capability of just having that ONE machine do everything. It can be your high definition entertainment system at home, it can give you HD movies in a hotel room on the road (yes you'll see the benefit over DVD even when blu-ray is downsampled). It gives you everything you need in one place.

In a world where Apple is REMOVING optical drives I would be suprised if they made such a design change. I'm not trying to say you can't or shouldn't have the option, but I fail to see the need.

Thanks to Apple removing the optical drive, everyone else is making smaller and smaller optical drives fit in smaller and smaller computers. Pretty soon the MacBook Air will essentially have to ship with one if Apple doesn't want it to be seen as a very expensive accessory and more of a computer you actually want to use.
 
Just to clarify, that is not my opinion. Steve has made it very clear that the company is driven by software. Look at the iPhone. Sure, they make money by selling the hardware, but the device is 99% software. That's where the technology development is.

If Apple just wanted to sell hardware, why would they choose to spend an incredible amount of money developing an OS that has just taken 8% of the market? Better yet, how can just another hardware company grow at nearly 10 times the industry average, especially when everyone is complaining how far behind they are?


Because the software creates the user experience which sells the hardware. It's why Apple has such passionate customers. I'm passionate about the experience I get when I use a mac, it's why there are sites such as MR. The experience is only available on OSX, hence I will buy a mac computer. They spend all that money developing an OS because it sells on a mac computer which they produce and have 30% margins on. It's why i will still buy a mac even though I have had to send my PB in to apple care 6 times in the 3 years i have owned it, whereas I have never had a problem with my Thinkpad T40 in the same amount of time I have owned that. Why do we acccept yellow screens, cracked hinges, warped casings ad nauseam when any other PC manufacturer wouild have lost a customer for life? Because of the OS. If OSX was available on the new Sony Z, I, personally would be there in a heartbeat and judging by the amount of people talking about it on this thread, so would alot of others.

SJ can say all he wants (G5 will hit 3.0 Mhz by the end of the year!), but 20 billion in cash comes from hardware sales, not software and that is exactly the point.
 
Having blu-ray in your laptop gives you the capability of just having that ONE machine do everything. It can be your high definition entertainment system at home, it can give you HD movies in a hotel room on the road (yes you'll see the benefit over DVD even when blu-ray is downsampled). It gives you everything you need in one place.

Amen to this

I would use it often to play Blu-Ray movies that I own especially if I am bored at work, on an airplane, etc....

I would LOVE to have it
 
If Apple is to update their laptop line I hope they can get it released before mid-August. I'll be leaving the USA and it will be my last opportunity to get a VAT-free laptop for a long itme. :(
 
Actually I don't really compare this to a MBP but I think it destroys the MBA. The MBA is 3 lbs. The Sony is 3.4 lbs. Yet the Sony has Montevina chipset with penryn cpu, 128 GB SSD, or 2.5" HDD instead of the slow 1.8" HDD, and discrete graphics vs. integrated graphics of the MBA, HDMI, 2 USB, FW, output compared to the MBA 1 USB port, also WiMAX card slot.

The only reason I mention Sony and compared it to the MBP, is that other posters were saying that BD was too expensive and wouldn't fit in MBP. Yet the Sony is lighter, cheaper, and smaller and it has a BD.
Still leaps and bounds better than anything in the MacBook.

Any dedicated GPU from the 8400M GS and up is going to walk all over Intel's offerings no matter what Intel says.

Plus dedicated GPUs do wonders for video playback.

In Windows at least, no affect in OS X since its all software based.

Ah you see I thought you were comparing it to the MBP more then the MB or Air, my mistake.
 
I Think Its Gonna Be Released Around September 15th With The New Lineup Of iPods, After The Macbook + iPod Promotion.
:D

The ipod + mac promotion has happened now for several years. Each time it seemed to have very little impact on updates to macs.

Generally it seems that it is more of a promotion to clear out excessive ipod stock and at the same time help convince students to buy new macs for school.

ipods will almost certainly be updated in the fall. Macs on the other hand will most likely be updated when intel can deliver sufficient quantities of Montevina. Hopefully that will mean late July / early August time frame.
 
Aiden Shaw also "forgot" to include the obvious "advantage" of viruses, malware and bloatware in Windows...as well as the "disadvantages" of OS X and iLife in Macs...:rolleyes:

1. Adobe runs amazing on Windows machines. I use After Effects, Premiere Pro, Illustrator, and Photoshop regularly on my windows machine.

2. In my entire life, I have never had a virus on my Windows machine. =\ All I have set up to protect me is Avast! and the standard Windows firewall. All you have to do is not pirate things or download strange things that come off of popups, not open email from people you don't know, and not surf porn sites. Easy as that.

3. Bloatware is simple to remove, and many companies are excluding it completely nowadays such as Dell and Sony.

=D I like OS X and Apple computers, but I'm still a Windows person, and 99% of the problems proclaimed about Windows are from people who are ignorant. Not bad with computers per se, my mother who just knows the basics of computers does just fine.
 
I just can't get over all this talk about blue ray. I understand that some people want it, but I didn't buy my macbook pro to watch movies on. I bought it for work. Yes, you can get a laptop from Sony or some other company with blue ray. If you want a laptop with blue ray built in then buy something with blue ray built in and quit bitching about macbooks or macbook pros not having them. I don't see why it is so important. If I want to watch blue ray movies I will get a proper blue ray player and watch them on a proper television.


But it's not all about you. :rolleyes: You get the model with the superdrive. Everybody else that wants blu-ray gets that model. How difficult is that for a freaking $50 B company. Jeebus. Stop telling people what they can and can't have because of what you want. :mad:
 
But it's not all about you. :rolleyes: You get the model with the superdrive. Everybody else that wants blu-ray gets that model. How difficult is that for a freaking $50 B company. Jeebus. Stop telling people what they can and can't have because of what you want. :mad:
Agreed. I don't really care for Blu-Ray either, but only because I'd rather have something at a lower cost. However, the choice would be nice, especially since it's the intended successor to DVD.
 
its about time for apple to have BLU-RAY on it's laptops.

stock drive should be a blu-ray reading superdrive. high end should be a blu-ray burning drive/superdrive

anyway, if apple keeps on ignoring blu-ray i think Steve Jobs needs electroshock!!!
 
2. In my entire life, I have never had a virus on my Windows machine. =\ All I have set up to protect me is Avast! and the standard Windows firewall. All you have to do is not pirate things or download strange things that come off of popups, not open email from people you don't know, and not surf porn sites. Easy as that.

Oh so true. It's all about the user. Haha I guess most users here can't resist their urge and thus resort to OSX...

3. Bloatware is simple to remove, and many companies are excluding it completely nowadays such as Dell and Sony.

Well I dunno if they completely excluded since I haven't bought a Dell or a Sony in a long time, but yes I agree, it's simple as hell to remove. These things shouldn't be an argument in favor of OSX anymore. From the security issues that popped up a while ago, isn't it already obvious that OSX is not immune to viruses or hackers etc, people just don't care about you guys enough. And bloatware, removing software is easier than dealing with yellow tints, warped cases, dying logic boards, kernel panics (never had that on my Asus btw), stripe screens, malfunctioning sleep operation etc etc. I don't hate OSX, as a matter of fact I'm waiting to buy the next MBP, but I just wanna knock some sense into you lot that's all.
 
a new distribution strategy

I think that apple is learning a new distribution strategy, actually working with shops and other sellers.

They have probably picked this up from the iPhone selling, where they stopped supply here in england at least a month or so before the iPhone 3g arrived.
 
Didnt read though all the other pages but here are my thoughts.

Early September we will see a revision of macs.

  • The iMac will get a performance boast
  • We will see a new revamp of the mac pro
  • Mac Mini will get a revamp. Will look like the apple TV. Will come with a stand type of thing so you can place the mini standing up.
  • New LCD displays will feature isight and will resemble the imac but in a smaller form factor
Now on to the laptops

  • Macbook will get a revamp. Will closely resemble the macbook air and the imac. Will be anywhere from 5 - 10% thinner then the current design. Will have a decataed graphics card
  • "macnote" or Macpad - a NEW mac tablet using multi touch. this may or may not be anouced in september. may be at mac world 2009
  • Macbook air will get a performance boast. Steve will only spend a min or two on this
  • Macbook Pro will get a major revamp. Making it thinner. Glossy displsy will be defalut but matte displays would be offered at the apple website for those who pefer them (who would, just dont use the notebook in the light!) 16 and 18" models will replace current 15 and 17". multi touch
  • Blu-Ray may or may not be shoved in this round. It may at Mac World 2009
 

Wow, what a post. You make me want to buy a PC.

My MB gets SO hot. It's 60 degrees Celsius, and I'm right now just using Safari (no Flash), Yahoo Messenger, and iTunes. You're so right about the shape of the computer. I don't really need a super-thin or a super-light computer. My MB heats up to almost 100 degrees Celsius during games, and the fans are still running top notch an hour after.

The MB's lack of a dedicated graphics card (even just an average one), not even having a superdrive as standard, and having such a high price, is just unacceptable. I'm currently very dissatisfied with my MB for its performance in games. I was looking at a MBP, and then realized I could get a HP that was equal in specs to a MBP for half the price.

Apple so under-delivers and overcharges, I never thought I'd say it, but I am seriously considering a PC. I'm willing to live with Vista, in exchange for twice the features for the price of a MBP.
 
But it's not all about you. :rolleyes: You get the model with the superdrive. Everybody else that wants blu-ray gets that model. How difficult is that for a freaking $50 B company. Jeebus. Stop telling people what they can and can't have because of what you want. :mad:

I know, people have different tastes.
 
I just can't get over all this talk about blue ray. I understand that some people want it, but I didn't buy my macbook pro to watch movies on. I bought it for work. Yes, you can get a laptop from Sony or some other company with blue ray. If you want a laptop with blue ray built in then buy something with blue ray built in and quit bitching about macbooks or macbook pros not having them. I don't see why it is so important. If I want to watch blue ray movies I will get a proper blue ray player and watch them on a proper television.

well thats you. most people use a computer for more then just one thing. I've been holding out on getting a mac, not for the blu- ray. but for the revision. No ons is "bitching" that blu-ray isnt on the mac yet. We are just wondering when it will and want steve to open his mind a little.

FYI. we have some good stuff my parents bought the sony blu-ray player top of the line model. the one that costs 1399. We watch it on our 65" DLP TV. So eyah we can watch it on what you call " a proper television" but what if you were on a trip? Watch movies on the go. You say you do the computer for work, well, you mean to tell me when you are on that 10 hour flight you wont watch a moive, instead sit in the chair board to tears since the airlines removed in flight movies and the snacks...

movies on laptops are a great thing. when you are on the go it beats doing other things
 
Heh, how about those of us still rollin on a Tibook with electrical tape holding the left hinge together...

You´re still at the tape level? My panel is fully exposed, hinges both broken, having to lean against a wall or similar to be useful.

I held off the last revision of 17", finding the current shape horribly out-dated and G4-like. Here´s to another ingenious design from Ive.
 
well thats you. most people use a computer for more then just one thing. I've been holding out on getting a mac, not for the blu- ray. but for the revision. No ons is "bitching" that blu-ray isnt on the mac yet. We are just wondering when it will and want steve to open his mind a little.

FYI. we have some good stuff my parents bought the sony blu-ray player top of the line model. the one that costs 1399. We watch it on our 65" DLP TV. So eyah we can watch it on what you call " a proper television" but what if you were on a trip? Watch movies on the go. You say you do the computer for work, well, you mean to tell me when you are on that 10 hour flight you wont watch a moive, instead sit in the chair board to tears since the airlines removed in flight movies and the snacks...

movies on laptops are a great thing. when you are on the go it beats doing other things

I would say it is quite the opposite. I see tons of people freaking out that blue ray is not standard on the macbook or macbook pro. I just can't see what the big deal is. Yes, I have watched movies on my laptop. Yes, watching them in a higher resolution would also be better. I do agree that it should be a built to order option. I don't agree that blue ray is something Apple needs to put into their standard configurations, and even if it isn't a built to order option I don't really care. I realize that blue ray is something that people want badly, but if it is something you feel you need there are plenty of options available to you and many are cheaper than a macbook pro anyway. So what is the big deal?
 
hey everyone, im new to mac but have some information.

i was talking with a guy from intel (portland) and i was asking him about switching to a mac and he said to wait because in about a month they will be rolling out a new quad core chip for apple. but he wouldnt say what machine it was for. do any use quad yet?

thoughts?

im looking foward to getting a mb, and would have ordered one tonight if i hadn't talked with him:(
 
hey everyone, im new to mac but have some information.

i was talking with a guy from intel (portland) and i was asking him about switching to a mac and he said to wait because in about a month they will be rolling out a new quad core chip for apple. but he wouldnt say what machine it was for. do any use quad yet?

thoughts?

im looking foward to getting a mb, and would have ordered one tonight if i hadn't talked with him:(

Only the Mac Pro uses quad cores right now.

Can you provide evidence of this statement (emails, audio-recordings, pictures, ect.?) :p
 
Only the Mac Pro uses quad cores right now.

Can you provide evidence of this statement (emails, audio-recordings, pictures, ect.?) :p

nope. wish i did but wasnt expecting him to tell me anything like that.

im sure since i dont have evidence that no one will believe me. although to be honest i probably wouldnt either.
 
I HATE black keyboards. I want a large Apple illuminated logo, rather than a small dotted design seen in the supposed leaked-designs. Therefore, I am really glad that I recently bought the top-of-the-line 15" MBP.

Some of Apple's recent "improvements" have been just for the sake of change, and have not been good. e.g. the removal of matte screens from the iMac. Apple sometimes is more conscious of style, rather than caring about the practical needs of some users.

I'm camping with the current MBP design because I love it.

The thought of black keyboards makes me puke.
 
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