Apple Pro Machines -- Still Coming?

[cmoney]

You want dark times? Try having your high-end pro model PowerMac, complete with a pro model price tag, stuck at a max 500Mhz for 16 months (September 1999 to January 2001).

Yeah that sucked, but it doesn't mean it's okay to go this long without an update to the G5s.

 

[AppleJustWorks]

This SUX

Now that I see no updates....I'm.......BORED


Great a whole aout 5 mos. of using this Stupid Dell with Winblows Xtra Problems....

Now I've got to think of something to do to pass time.....

 

[Bendit]

Apple Promised the PowerMacs would reach 3ghz by Summer. Who's to say they won't release it before summer? I wouldn't be surprised if Apple pulled this move. It sure would surprise everyone. Maybe that's why the update is taking longer, because they expect to surprise everyone with a 3.0 ghz update in a month or two.

The G5 was the big news last summer, it won't be a second year in a row. I am guessing they'll get the G5 update to 3ghz before WWDC and then start the keynote with "We're all very happy with the 3ghz G5 but now I have something even better to show you... the brand new iMac".

 

[ssamani]

Then you get used to it. You become accustomed to its performance. And then you get irritated with it. I currently have a G4/400 w/640 megs of RAM running OS 9. Were I to buy a dual 2.0 Ghz PowerMac, it would be wonderful (and admittedly, with a G4/400 right now, I imagine it'd be wonderful for a looong time) - but slowly, ever so slowly, it would start to seem slower. It's completely illogical - stupid, even. But that's what happens. It happens with everything computer-related - displays, game performance, CPU, and high-speed internet. Increased performance leads to increased expectations.

I knew what you meant, until I thought there is something really wrong with my TiBook. Each OS upgrade 10.1, 10.2, 10.3 is supposed to be faster and my machine doesn't feel as slow as 10.1 but it's slower than it was. So I decided to download some shareware / demo software, Panther Cache Cleaner, which is completely inappropriate name for what it does. Carefully ran a bunch of the suggested utils, e.g., running OS X standard housekeeping, e.g., repair permissions, pre-binding, cleaup in /etc/daily, weekly and monthly and boom, my boot up times which used to take ages now is basically a pause for the disk check, the start up panel comes up with "Waiting for network" (my Airport network) and a half full (half empty) progress bar for a few seconds. Next thing I know the login panel pops up. Login itself seems a little slow still, but I think I am going to be a bit better with general housekeeping. Oh and I'm going to stop downloading so much open source and shareware junk I don't need. And leave enough space for the automatic defragmentation to work well.

Basically I'm going to remember I have a complex machine that needs taking care of like a car.

Sanj

 

[zot72]

Porting

I know this sub-thread died out pages ago, but I'm going to respond to it anyway.

The Aqua UI depends on everything provided by the CoreGraphics framework (marketed under a series of names beginning with "Quartz"). The effort to replace X11 in the Unix/Linux world with something comparable feature-wise began before Apple entered its final 18 months of corporate history (which is to say, ten times as many months ago).

This isn't a dig on that world, or bragging about this one, just pointing out there isn't some magical way for Apple to build a KDE/Gnome theme that turns anything with an X server into a Mac.

 

[Gymnut]

Well I'm sure Apple has its reasons to not introducing faster G5's. I for one would rather have them do things right and deliver a machine that will blow the brains out of the personal computer world. Certainly it's a disappointment and the rumors have been far and few between but I'd rather have a pro machine free of problems and defects than one that is rushed to the market.

 

[iAtom]

Now that I see no updates....I'm.......BORED


Great a whole aout 5 mos. of using this Stupid Dell with Winblows Xtra Problems....

Now I've got to think of something to do to pass time.....

I am in the exact same position as you. I too am on a Dell with Winblows. I am dieing to make the switch.

I am hoping that they will announce them tommorrow at the IBM thing. But I will most likely come home from school and be dissapointed again.

 

[djbahdow01]

I am in the exact same position as you. I too am on a Dell with Winblows. I am dieing to make the switch.

I am hoping that they will announce them tommorrow at the IBM thing. But I will most likely come home from school and be dissapointed again.

Im with you guys, working on a Dell and trying to wait patiently for a new G5. The patient part isn't working to well but i am waiting. Although i know its not end of the world, they will eventually come out.

 

[wdlove]

The last I heard (a rumor on the internet) was that the Best Buy and Apple Computer "experiment" was over and that Macs would be disappearing from the few Best Buy locations that were actually carrying them. So, I think the answer is: 1. Best Buy won't be selling Apple Computers anymore.

I was at my local Best Buy on Sunday. The only thing that they were selling was the iPod and software.

 

[mojowantshappy]

The easier way to deal with a "lack of updates" is to really just stop caring until it comes. No amount of whining will make them release anything faster, and pining for it is just going to get one irritated.

 

[freddiecable]

agree on that one

don't worry be happy

The easier way to deal with a "lack of updates" is to really just stop caring until it comes. No amount of whining will make them release anything faster, and pining for it is just going to get one irritated.

 

[JoeG4]

fes up. only ~90 days to go until WWDC!

 

[form]

How often does apple Pleasantly surprise us, when it comes to power mac releases? Never! Never Ever. Even the G5 was quite overdue, and not very surprising.

 

[JamesDPS]

The easier way to deal with a "lack of updates" is to really just stop caring until it comes. No amount of whining will make them release anything faster, and pining for it is just going to get one irritated.

But the line will move faster if we all push as hard as we can!

 

[~Shard~]

Patience is a virtue.

 

[AppleJustWorks]

G5 iMac

Do you think that around WWDC they will introduce the G5 iMac? I'm dieing for a Mac, I want the most for my money...($2600-$2800).....If they make the iMac a G5 and they do not lower the prices on the displays(20" to be about 700?) I'm going to get an iMac.....

So my question is......
1. Will they come out with a G5 iMac and when?
2. What will its specs be?
3. Will they lower Prices on Displays....(I need the 20" to be about $700)

 

[Mac-Xpert]

How often does apple Pleasantly surprise us, when it comes to power mac releases? Never! Never Ever. Even the G5 was quite overdue, and not very surprising.

Actually there was a little surprise. Every rumor site only mentioned dual 1.8 as to be the top speed. With the announcement of a dual 2.0 Ghz right away Apple did surprise most people.

Of course the only bad part was that they didn't ship till after September

 

[neonart]

Do you think that around WWDC they will introduce the G5 iMac? I'm dieing for a Mac, I want the most for my money...($2600-$2800).....If they make the iMac a G5 and they do not lower the prices on the displays(20" to be about 700?) I'm going to get an iMac.....

So my question is......
1. Will they come out with a G5 iMac and when?
2. What will its specs be?
3. Will they lower Prices on Displays....(I need the 20" to be about $700)

1. After the towers and maybe the Powerbooks.
2. Less than the towers and Powerbooks.
3. Probably, but not quite that much I don't think. Maybe $999.

Why get an iMac if you have a $2800 budget? (besides the all in one setup) You can get an entry level G5 and a nice display for about that much. Right now a 1.6 G5 and the Apple 20" are $3098. And you get a MUCH more upgradeable machine.
You can also do a Formac 20" (not widescreen, but higher resolution, and better specs) for the same price.
Or get another, smaller display if nessesary. But the machine itself will be more useful -Just a though- Usually towers go alot longer than iMacs do. There are still many people on these forums with G4 400-500 (upgraded or not) towers from around 1999. But the iMacs of that era are becoming unusable and are much harder and expensive to upgrade.

But I will tell you the iMacs "floating screen" is very cool!

 

[visor]

Exactly. Someone said in the previous Brilliant thread: why pay day 1 prices for 6 month old technology? No thanks, I'll wait. And that's Apple's problem. Didn't Steve Jobs say he wanted to get away from a few big releases a year to more often, smaller releases?

Would make a lot of sense, too.
When I remember my Student days with little income, waited a long time, bought second hand PC hardware cheap and in pieces to get a maschine that actually works, over the years, when good bargains where available.

with the ibook - well, it's upgraded all the way - nothing to be enhanced there anymore. It's usable, so there is no need to go for a large expesive update...
If I was still using the pc primarely, i'd have bought one or two new processors, a new graphics card, an new HD, bags of memory within the last 1.5 years...

hm.

 

[Mr Maui]

Who believes MacOSRumors anymore? Their track record is horrible. That upcoming IBM event does sound interesting, however. I'd like to see if any news comes out of it.

Does the track record mean something? Maybe the moderator had a vision last night.

 

[Mr Maui]

I think if nothing else, we can all agree that if Apple truly isn't going to release anything new till WWDC two important things will occur:

1) The next three months are going to have record low sales of these horrifically outdated models. (Yea they work, but c'mon)

2) We are all going to be increasingly pissed off.

3) When the new Macs ARE released, we'll all forget our unhappiness and go out and spend, Spend, SPEND!!!! Like Always.

 

[Mr Maui]

look at this link
http://www.mdronline.com/watch/watc...6&SID=1019&on=T&SourceID=00000377000000000000

this is a link from ibm website and this means that powermacs should arrive soon and powerbooks will also come out this year.

And some people are complaining about the availabitlity of apple products after an announcement... this is apple's strategy to prevent photos of new products before the announcement, I think Apple starts production not until the product is announced. ok, it's a different thing for just update of an existing product

um ... the article you linked to is 10 weeks old (1-20-04)

 

[Mr Maui]

LOL! ...but that actually might have some truth to it - you never know what Apple really thinks about rumor sites anyway.

Apple LOVES rumor sites!! It keep people wondering, pondering, talking, etc. about their company, their products, their NAME!! Rumor sites are Apple's BIGGEST advertiser ... and ... it this form of marketing doesn't cost them a dime!!

 

[Borg3of5]

1.6 GHz G5

About once a week for the last 5-6 months, I have visited my local Apple store and spent about 5-10 minutes on each current G5 model. The Dual 2.0 GHz G5 ROCKS, and so does the Dual 1.8 GHz, albeit infintessimally slower. The single 1.6 GHz though, this time, seemed slow as molassas, compared to the dual processor models.

I keep on thinking to wait to get my G5. My 800 MHz G3 iBook I'm on right now, is TWICE as fast as my 1.0 GHz Gateway laptop, which I only use occasionally; it's been delegated to the small peanut-desk by the kitchen to look up recipes, and access my iTunes library while cooking, or web-access while waiting for some kitchen process to finish.

The "Brilliant Savings" program is great. No need to get a 20", just shell out the extra $400 for a 23" HD Cinema; it's simply beautiful! I can just imagine watching a DVD on that puppy!

 

[jsw]

About once a week for the last 5-6 months, I have visited my local Apple store and spent about 5-10 minutes on each current G5 model. The Dual 2.0 GHz G5 ROCKS, and so does the Dual 1.8 GHz, albeit infintessimally slower. The single 1.6 GHz though, this time, seemed slow as molassas, compared to the dual processor models.

There is a noticeable difference when comparing the three models side-by-side (the 1.8 and the 2.0 are practically identical,making the dual-1.8 - which wasn't available when I got my dual-2 - the best buy IMHO). However, in day-to-day tasks, the 1.6 isn't so bad at all. Sort of like when you go to buy a TV and they all look tiny compared to the 80" model in the center of the store. But, at home, the one you bought looks just fine.

However, I think the dual-1.8 is well worth the price increase over the single 1.6.