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Like I have said in many other posts, Apple does not care to prioritize bugs unless there is a media out lash.

That is why we all need to complain about the poor quality of Apple's software. If we don't we'll never get the bus fixes we need.
 
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I personally submitted bug reports to Apple for bugs in Mail.app in Mac OS X Tiger, and those bugs are still there. So how do I contact this Joanna Stern lady? Sounds like she can actually get things done.
Read this and had a laugh wondering if your bugs in Mac OS were finally addressed.

 
My point is, the product the initial bug report is associated with is a discontinued product (apple mail in Mac OS X tiger)

Your point makes no sense. There’s no reason to ignore a report of a bug that wasn’t fixed when they moved from Tiger to Leopard. The bug didn’t just magically go away

That would be a really bad policy
 
Your point makes no sense. There’s no reason to ignore a report of a bug that wasn’t fixed when they moved from Tiger to Leopard. The bug didn’t just magically go away

That would be a really bad policy
But again, Apple ignored parental control bug for 3 years until media picks it up, and that bug was reported well back in 2021. My point makes no sense only when Apple actually cares about fixing bugs as much as developing new features, but as of today, new feature gets far more attention over fixing bugs.
Yes the bug won’t just magically go away but then what? That bug has been ignored for 18 years now. Do you guys really think apple care about it still?
 
My 5 yr old daughter was able to work around screen time for youtube by going to messages, clicking the messages app for youtube and sending herself the youtube videos she's watched in her history and just watch them again. I was able to submit a feedback of this workaround and they repaired it relatively quickly in the next version. But its' absurd how Apple has billions and cant work smarter than a 5 yr old.
There is a lot of weird creepy and semi-sexual content in YouTube kids. I remember doing a trial of it with my kids a couple years ago and shut that crap down. Turns out a lot of pedos lurk on there making content marked as for children with very little oversight. NOPE.
 
It would be good if they'd also start implementing the 20-20-20* rule.

Every 20 minutes, focus the eyes on an object 20 feet (6 meters) away for 20 second. No way this is possible in the parental control / screentime currently. Currently there is only a way to block access to an iOS device (or it's app) after x minutes (for the rest of the day), but no way add a obligated pause after 20 minutes but allow resume after 20 seconds.

*) see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_vision_syndrome for more information
 
Read this and had a laugh wondering if your bugs in Mac OS were finally addressed.


Why fix memory leaks when you can just bolt AI onto it? ROFL
 
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It would be good if they'd also start implementing the 20-20-20* rule.

Every 20 minutes, focus the eyes on an object 20 feet (6 meters) away for 20 second. No way this is possible in the parental control / screentime currently. Currently there is only a way to block access to an iOS device (or it's app) after x minutes (for the rest of the day), but no way add a obligated pause after 20 minutes but allow resume after 20 seconds.

*) see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_vision_syndrome for more information

Every 20 days, give Apple 20% of your paycheck in the form of 20 new subscription services.
 
Again, the subscriptions don't depend on you using the device more.

Yes they do. I mean, do you subscribe to Disney+ and then not watch any of the content? Then sure.

Once you see the value in Apple Music, and are paying £9.99 per month, it's in Apple's interest for you to stream as little as possible(!)
Zero logic there. Of course Apple wants you to use it.
 
But again, Apple ignored parental control bug for 3 years until media picks it up, and that bug was reported well back in 2021. My point makes no sense only when Apple actually cares about fixing bugs as much as developing new features, but as of today, new feature gets far more attention over fixing bugs.
Yes the bug won’t just magically go away but then what? That bug has been ignored for 18 years now. Do you guys really think apple care about it still?
OK yeah, you're right. But the way you were saying it made it seem like you were defending it because he did something wrong by reporting a feature for an old operating system and then made it seem like you were defending it because the report was too old

I agree that it's bad that Apple doesn't care about fixing bugs and that's what we're complaining about
 
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tbh my kids found it much quicker to work arround android screen limits than iPhone ones,

Interesting, I haven't researched the Android bypasses. My kids seem really efficient at getting past Apple but haven't had any luck with Android or Windows. I would assume all 3 have vulnerabilities, it's just that Screentime seems so awful with syncing and always ends up deleting my restrictions that my kids don't even need a bypass, they just have to wait for the inevitable bugs.
 
There’s a crazy simple way for kids to get around web browser restrictions.

All they have to do is type in any of many well known proxy IP addresses and surf away. I can’t seem to find a way to block IPs. I have my kids’ screen time setting on “Allowed Websites Only” super frustrating 😞

Either disable Safari and replace it with another browser or do not have any browser, and of course prevent them from installing any new apps without permission.
 
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my kids just gets around Screen Time by changing the timezone. To get around that, I schedule screen time from 12:45am - 12:43am. But they still find ways unfortunately. It's a broken product.
Then lock them out of changing their settings. Done!
 
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Yes they do. I mean, do you subscribe to Disney+ and then not watch any of the content? Then sure.


Zero logic there. Of course Apple wants you to use it.
Use it yes, but if you're happy with streaming songs 3 hours per day, they don't want to push you to 6. Either way they still get £9.99.

This is unlike Meta which literally makes more money for every ad you see. If you are on their platforms for 3 hours not 6, they will make less money.
 
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tThose with kids who use this, do these restrictions on porn and violent sites actually work in practice? I have Safari turned off for my kids except for a small subset of child friendly sites, but my daughter is getting older and I’ve considered giving her more access since she seems to take after me being a jack of all trades and wanting to learn how to do almost everything.

But I also grew up on the unrestricted web and know how dangerous it is and that I’m lucky I was smart enough to regulate myself surprisingly well. I also grew up bypassing a lot of the overly restrictive content filters in my school. So I’m curious if this actually works?

I bit on that $200 off iPad Air 5th gen deal from earlier today and got both my kids new iPads to setup coming soon, and I’d like to review a lot of the parental control settings. I might also setup some parental controls on my router, or perhaps see if I can route traffic from their MAC addresses through my Raspberry Pi 4 and filter it there as a backstop. But I worry about when they’re connected to WiFi at friends and family’s houses. I really need to look into profiles and what can be done with regard to restrictions based on WiFi connection. Idk much about it or what is possible.
I don’t know if you've explored profiles in the meantime, but id really recommend it as a solution.

I don't know if I'm allowed to self-promote here, hopefully it's ok, because I'm trying to offer help on this issue. I have a book on the Apple Books store called 'A dumb iPhone?' which explores profiles and the rigidity of a solution that can come with these.

I gave up with screen time some while ago and I agree with the prevailing sentiment here, but I do have to say that potentially I had my feedback answered. The solution in my book became even more rigid when Apple introduced a change to VPN/DNS behaviour in iOS 18 which aligned with my feedback. I didnt see any other reports of this issue anywhere and I did have to submit quite a few feedback reports over many months, but a positive change was implemented in the end.

EDIT: I thought I’d updated my book for iOS 18 changes, but doesn’t seem to have saved or something. Anyway, iOS 18 now makes one device restriction work better. The restriction (configured from Apple Configurator) is ‘preventVPNcreation’. Enabling this used to prevent the user from bypassing the enforced DNS by inputting their own VPN credentials, but it didn’t stop third party VPN apps from bypassing the DNS. Users could simply install one of the thousands of VPN apps and get round the restrictions imposed by their company, parents, better selves etc. Now this restriction prevents third party VPN apps from establishing VPN connections as well, so if you, like I describe in the book, enforce a DNS with content blocking and in effect throw away the key (in reality hide in a time-locked safe), there’s no way around the restrictions.

Want to remove DNS from device? You can’t without the password.

Want to temporarily use a different DNS which allows all content? You can’t.

Want to try wiping the device to remove the enforced DNS? You’ll need a different password.

Want these passwords?
You’ll need to wait weeks for your safe to unlock, which will relock automatically in a matter of minutes.

Hope this clarifies things and helps.
 
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I disable Safari on the iPhone my children share at home. It reappears a day later or so. I guess this has been a known issue for years. Such a little company with no resources to fix software bugs.
 
Either disable Safari and replace it with another browser or do not have any browser, and of course prevent them from installing any new apps without permission.

See my post above. You cant remove Safari. It will come back. LOL

Apple is a joke.
 
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