Apple Promotes Face ID as Even Easier and More Secure Than Touch ID in Humorous New iPhone Ad

[Juiceboy]

So glad touch ID is never coming. Face ID works effortlessly.
Lying down in bed with a pillow on my side, Check
Wet hands from swimming Check
Sweat from the Gym, Check
Riding my Bike and i can look down at my phone without taking my hands off Check
Mounted on the car hands free, Check
Not having to take additional action to log into my bank or work emails Check!

 

[knirirr]

How is your phone storing a 3D mapping of your face more 'creepy' than your phone storing your fingerprints? For the record, I don't think either of these things are 'creepy' as long as the biometrics are encrypted and never leave the device -- which, according to Apple, is the case.

A fingerprint doesn’t provide any information about my age, gender or emotional state. The image may not leave the phone but information gained by apps via API calls to the FaceID system could well do so.

Even if Apple could convince me that advertising SDKs would never be able to access any face sensors I still dislike the technology and do not wish to look at such a sensor on a daily basis.

 

[smirking]

I'd argue that it doesn't work as advertised. I usually have to intentionally force it to open. About 15% of the time is with a PIN.

It doesn't bother me too much that it doesn't work as well for me as Touch ID did. What bothers me more is that associated unlocking functionality also changed to suit Face ID. I don't want my phone to instantly lock every time the screen turns off. I hate that and I'm actually touching my phone more than ever because Face ID only unlocks the lock screen. I still need to swipe it to get to the home screen.

 

[Marcode]

Do people still think Touch ID is coming back to phones?

I would like to have the choice
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Great, thanks Apple. Like we really need more fuel to the “TouchID vs FaceID” fire.

Incoming people complaining about how TouchID is superior to FaceID and how they’ll never buy a new iPhone until TouchID is back, and others claiming that FaceID is 1000x easier/safer and they can use it with gloves on etc. etc.

Not be everyone has an electric lounger and keeps their phone propped up just so. I have Face ID on my iPad but still prefer Touch ID on my phone

 

[giebe]

I always thought that Touch ID is the best solution. Then I switched to the XR with faceID and even though i had to get used to it, faceID is way faster and easier to use. Don’t have to do anything and just use the phone.

 

[DinkThifferent]

With Apple Pay, Touch ID is faster than FaceID i noticed.

 

[MacBH928]

This is what happens when a company becomes too dominant or competition-less,
they start forcing their methods on you, instead of trying to attract you with their features that you want.

Remember when IE was made default for OS9, and Jobs said, "Since we believe in freedom of choice..." you can change it to Netscape. No Choices here.

 

[smirking]

Remember when IE was made default for OS9, and Jobs said, "Since we believe in freedom of choice..." you can change it to Netscape. No Choices here.

I prefer Touch ID too, but you seriously think Jobs thought people should be allowed to mix and match things to their hearts content? Jobs said a lot of things. He also said whatever best suited his agenda at the moment.
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With Apple Pay, Touch ID is faster than FaceID i noticed.

I'm not sure if it's faster, but it's more intuitive. Put phone by pay terminal, put finger on home button until the success chime sounds.

With Face ID you put the phone near the terminal, look toward your phone, then double press the cancel button to confirm that you want to pay. I really can't get over this. You never want a cancel/abort/back button to sometimes take you forward and sometimes take you back. Anything would be better than this. Why not a swipe to confirm?

 

[Mactendo]

I had so many problems with Face ID, more than I did with Touch ID. For unlocking your phone, it makes no sense.

It makes sense at least in one case. When a new message arrives, by default it reads something like “new message” on the locked screen. But when you pick up and/or look at your phone then the generic text is immediately replaced with the actual content of the message. So no one except you can read it when you’re in public places.
Very nifty feature.

 

[dk001]

It makes sense at least in one case. When a new message arrives, by default it reads something like “new message” on the locked screen. But when you pick up and/or look at your phone then the generic text is immediately replaced with the actual content of the message. So no one except you can read it when you’re in public places.
Very nifty feature.

If you have messages on your lockscreen ...

 

[truthertech]

have you used both phones before? Because the way you talk it doesn't seem like you have.
ok ok this is going to be hard to grasp but a phone FLAT on a table surface while you're eating yes you do not need to PICK up the phone with Touch ID. You put your finger on the flat phone and magically unlocks you don't have to pick it up and angle it towards your face like you do with faceid. Its just flawed by design. If you can't see this then I can't help you.

Actually, you're distorting this. Unless you put your phone far out, which people don't do, if your phone is anywhere near you, which is where most people lay it, all you need to do is glance at it. I am sitting at a coffee shop now with my phone at my table, and as usual, it works wonderfully easy to glance over at it when a notification or message comes in.

 

[x-evil-x]

Actually, you're distorting this. Unless you put your phone far out, which people don't do, if your phone is anywhere near you, which is where most people lay it, all you need to do is glance at it. I am sitting at a coffee shop now with my phone at my table, and as usual, it works wonderfully easy to glance over at it when a notification or message comes in.

you must be tall because mine doesn't read my face at any places I've ate at flat on the table. Even if its close to the edge it usually never works.

 

[dk001]

you must be tall because mine doesn't read my face at any places I've ate at flat on the table. Even if its close to the edge it usually never works.

Tall: The ability to execute significant leanover to unlock your table top iDevice.

 

[x-evil-x]

Tall: The ability to execute significant leanover to unlock your table top iDevice.

my barely works on my countertops when im making food. The angle is too much I guess.

 

[dk001]

my barely works on my countertops when im making food. The angle is too much I guess.

Same here.
XS Max.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

I have to pull them off my face every time

Try NOT taking your glasses off. Seriously, I did the same thing with training TouchID... the more info they have, the better it does at unlocking. AND if you show it your face with glasses, it fails, then use the passcode, it assumes that face captured right before you entered the passcode is a valid one and will add it to the options for “this is a correct read”.
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This is what happens when a company becomes too dominant or competition-less,
they start forcing their methods on you, instead of trying to attract you with their features that you want.

Remember when IE was made default for OS9, and Jobs said, "Since we believe in freedom of choice..." you can change it to Netscape. No Choices here.

Apple’s only a small section of the smartphone market, so they are neither dominant nor competition-less. What IS true is that they don’t need a massive share of the smartphone market to be profitable. So, they choose the features they want to support, and, if a few tens of millions buy them, then it doesn’t matter if millions didn’t buy because “no headphone jack” or “no fingerprint authentication”. It’s more about what happens when a company can make a nice sized profit using only a small sector of the market.

 

[ScreenSavers]

I dont like Face ID that much. I have an iPhone 5S laying around andf the first generation of Touch ID is faster than Face ID on my XS Max. Never mind how terrible the Face ID integration in third party apps is... the little checkmark that stays around for way too long after it verifies...

 

[cube]

Now that it does not have TouchID, is FaceID disabled by default?

 

[mi7chy]

This ad is in response to experiences like this.

Plus, if Face ID is as great as Apple claims then why do the new Macbook Air and Macbook Pro have Touch ID instead? Such fragmentation.

 

[44267547]

then why do the new Macbook Air and Macbook Pro have Touch ID instead? Such fragmentation.

That’s not actually what ‘fragmentation’ means at all, anyways, that’s not to say either that face ID won’t be included in the future for those products. But either way, does that the detract away from sales because Apple is not using Face ID in the latest MacBook? I doubt it. Apple sells the entry-level iPad that uses touch ID, does that stop that specific iPad from selling because it doesn’t include Face ID like the Pro line does? See how your argument doesn’t fit.

 

[MacBH928]

Try NOT taking your glasses off. Seriously, I did the same thing with training TouchID... the more info they have, the better it does at unlocking. AND if you show it your face with glasses, it fails, then use the passcode, it assumes that face captured right before you entered the passcode is a valid one and will add it to the options for “this is a correct read”.
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Apple’s only a small section of the smartphone market, so they are neither dominant nor competition-less. What IS true is that they don’t need a massive share of the smartphone market to be profitable. So, they choose the features they want to support, and, if a few tens of millions buy them, then it doesn’t matter if millions didn’t buy because “no headphone jack” or “no fingerprint authentication”. It’s more about what happens when a company can make a nice sized profit using only a small sector of the market.

actually they are competition less, there is only 1 other competitor which is Android and Windows on desktop. Compare to something with real competition like automobile market, airline carriers, fast food...etc

 

[The Game 161]

Wonder if Face ID gets a quicker upgrade with new phones

 

[I7guy]

Wonder if Face ID gets a quicker upgrade with new phones

I’m thinking Apple seems like every iteration they are trying to make it faster and less error prone.

 

[imola.zhp]

I have some horrible advice. Break their screens.

I had an SE and said that I would never part with it. I never wanted to lose the home button. Hated the notch. Then my screen broke...

Apple wanted I think $150-$180 to fix the screen. I did not have the cash to fix it. So instead a went with a brand new XR (even though I wanted another SE) for only $18 a month.

I love the lack of home button and I don’t even notice the notch at all. The battery life on the XR is INSANE and it comes in colors.

So tempting...

I think an XR would be too big, but a lightly used X might work...

 

[avanpelt]

A fingerprint doesn’t provide any information about my age, gender or emotional state. The image may not leave the phone but information gained by apps via API calls to the FaceID system could well do so.

Even if Apple could convince me that advertising SDKs would never be able to access any face sensors I still dislike the technology and do not wish to look at such a sensor on a daily basis.

If information gained by apps via API calls to the Face ID system is able to be transmitted to third parties, that's a problem. You don't know that that's happening, I don't think. You're simply conjecturing that, in your estimation, it could happen.

Now, as for things that privacy proponents should worry about today -- unless you're a true hermit or you wear a ski mask everywhere you go, by virtue of the fact that you go out in public at all, your face is almost certainly captured on anywhere from five to five hundred cameras on any given day. We don't know what happens with -- nor do we have any control over what happens with -- images of us that are captured on cameras that are owned by private citizens, private businesses, and governments.