FaceID doesn't work in the car. My employer will not purchase FaceID phones because of the security risk. Nuff said.
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Apple Promotes Face ID as Even Easier and More Secure Than Touch ID in Humorous New iPhone Ad
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We interpreted OP’s post exactly the same: they want to buy iPhone, but won’t unless it has TouchID. Otherwise, it’ll be Samsung.
But you missed _my_ point: Buy an iPhone if it best fits your needs, otherwise, of course—buy something else. I would expect anyone to do the same. But don’t tell me it’s Apple who makes that decision. It’s the customer’s who decides which features are dealbreakers, and they’re different for different people. Some won’t buy an iPhone unless it has FaceID.
If I had a nickel for every time I heard, “I’m not buying another iPhone until ______ ” I’d be rich. Until what? Until: it has a bigger battery; it has at least 256GB base storage; it gets USB-C; they get rid of the camera bump; they knock $200-300 off the price; they bring back the headphone jack—ad nauseum.
Apple makes two or three models. If none of them satisfy your needs, don’t buy an iPhone. Buy what works for you. But that’s 100% your decision. Feel free to say “make me the iPhone I want or I’m buying Samsung” but don’t be surprised when Apple doesn’t actually make you the iPhone you want. Because it’s a different iPhone from what person A and B and C and D want.
Many employers do not allow cell phone use in cars while the vehicle is moving. Safety risk. It makes sense... fewer accidents (and lawsuits) that way.
Do you have the same fingerprint with your twin? Can your twin unlock your phone with TouchID?
No, twins do not share fingerprints. Hence Touch ID far more secure. I don’t know Apple justifies otherwise. Oh wait, because they don’t sell it anymore. Nuf said. “The latest is ALWAYS better”. :rollseyes:
I am one of those. Did a 30 comparison courtesy of work (iPhones). Bought a Razer (personal phone). My Max is my work device.
Then how is it in the ad it says the probability is 1 in 50000 for Touch ID? Is it not 1 in a billion since fingerprint is unique? Or does it mean that Apple Touch ID sensor or software is unreliable at best because the probability is 1 out of 50000? Or perhaps they mislead us with this ad regarding with the security of the two services they provide so that people will upgrade.
I have some horrible advice. Break their screens.
I had an SE and said that I would never part with it. I never wanted to lose the home button. Hated the notch. Then my screen broke...
Apple wanted I think $150-$180 to fix the screen. I did not have the cash to fix it. So instead a went with a brand new XR (even though I wanted another SE) for only $18 a month.
I love the lack of home button and I don’t even notice the notch at all. The battery life on the XR is INSANE and it comes in colors.
So true. Pure Apple FUD to sell upgrades. You know they’re not going to admit touch is more secure/unique.
FaceID came out nearly 2 years ago. The fact that Apple still needs an ad campaign to convince people to use FaceID is a strong indication something is wrong.
I would love to know just how bad X/Xs sales have been.
I would love to know just how bad X/Xs sales have been.
I read an article here that said that Apple was looking to kill FaceID. A swing and a miss on whoever wrote the artice that was quoted? Hmm...
Of course, probably a more accurate interpretation is that Apple, facing competition, is pointing out current distinguishing features of its products. “iPhone: it’s a smartphone with a camera” wouldn’t really work.
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If you’re thinking of the article I quoted above from last week, that was referring specifically to the Chinese market to bring costs down.
So... Apple is deriding TouchID AND marketing a version of iPhone with an in-display TouchID to China. Makes sense/s
Is Apple showing this commercial to all of its markets, eg India, where iPhone 6(S)+ is so popular?
This is the only ‘logical’ explanation for this ad; otherwise what is Apple saying about its previous iterations of iPhone?
Is Apple showing this commercial to all of its markets, eg India, where iPhone 6(S)+ is so popular?
This is the only ‘logical’ explanation for this ad; otherwise what is Apple saying about its previous iterations of iPhone?
It does not compare every detail of the fingerprint. It compares a mathematic representations of the texture map of your fingerprint, not unlike a checksum. The "1 in 50000" is the probability that another fingerprint would result in a texture map close enough to yours that it would trigger a false positive.
It would not suprise me at all to see a version of underglass TouchID surface. I think in the near future we will be seeing a number of “Under Glass” functions.
I absolutely HATE face ID. It was way easier to put my finger on the pad than fiddle with the phone during the night or when laying down to get it to unlock. More than half the time I have to enter my pin anyway due to the poor functionality of the face ID. Please bring back the fingerprint sensor.
Apple's latest iPhone ad humorously demonstrates how Face ID is more convenient and secure than Touch ID for user authentication.
Timed with midsummer, the 30-second spot depicts a man napping on a reclining lounger in a backyard. After receiving a trio of iMessage notifications on his iPhone XR, he slowly raises the lounger to line up his face with the iPhone and unlocks the device with Face ID, all while continuing to lay down.
The messages come from a friend named Craig, who asks the man if he still plans to come around, suggesting that the two had made plans together. Instead, the man promptly returns to his nap alongside his dog. The ad is aptly titled "Nap" and features the song "Nice" by Grammy Award-winning DJ Latroit.
Face ID debuted on the iPhone X in 2017. At the time, Apple said the probability that a random person could unlock someone else's iPhone X was approximately one in 1,000,000, versus one in 50,000 for Touch ID.
The ad is part of Apple's ongoing "That's iPhone" marketing campaign promoting both hardware and software features of the device, such as iMessage encryption, App Store privacy, iPhone material recycling, and water resistance. "Face ID is even easier and more secure than Touch ID. That's iPhone."
Update 1:40 pm: Apple has also released a new short feature-focused ad with a similar tagline emphasizing that Face ID is more secure than Touch ID.
Article Link: Apple Promotes Face ID as Even Easier and More Secure Than Touch ID in Humorous New iPhone Ad
Thanks to Face ID, I get to use passcode a lot.
Face ID is ok. I'm not a fan, but I'm not waiting for Touch ID to come back either. It is what it is.
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I have the same complaints, but I mostly dislike FaceID because it makes using the phone more confusing. I hate accidentally going back to the home screen because I swiped too close to the bottom of the screen and It's not real good use case logic to make the cancel button on the right, the same button that you tap twice if you want to confirm Apple Pay with Face ID... with that same button also being the one you press five times if you want to activate SOS mode.
Cancel buttons should always cancel.
If you check my post history exactly a year ago, you’ll see nobody was Team Touch ID more than me. Keep in mind, this was before I upgraded to iPhone Xs, and eventually Xs Max. I had iPhone 7.
I realized I had bought into others perceptions of Face ID, and was speaking only from a user perspective accustomed to Touch ID.
Fast forward to my iPhone Xs upgrade and all the Touch ID rhetoric went flying right out the window. Face ID unlock on my desk... NO PROBLEM!!! Face ID while driving... NO PROBLEM Face ID while lying down... NO PROBLEM
Once those myths were dispelled, it was and continues to be off to the races. I literally hated the home button from the first iPhone; thus by proxy, I realize now that I hate Touch ID.
Face ID, as has been said many times “just gets out of the way”. It is superior in every way. All I can say is if you’ve never “actively” tried a device with Face ID... YOU SHOULD!!!
I realized I had bought into others perceptions of Face ID, and was speaking only from a user perspective accustomed to Touch ID.
Fast forward to my iPhone Xs upgrade and all the Touch ID rhetoric went flying right out the window. Face ID unlock on my desk... NO PROBLEM!!! Face ID while driving... NO PROBLEM Face ID while lying down... NO PROBLEM
Once those myths were dispelled, it was and continues to be off to the races. I literally hated the home button from the first iPhone; thus by proxy, I realize now that I hate Touch ID.
Face ID, as has been said many times “just gets out of the way”. It is superior in every way. All I can say is if you’ve never “actively” tried a device with Face ID... YOU SHOULD!!!
I see.
The question is how is Face ID more secure compared to Touch ID when fingerprint is unique? We have to take into account that our relatives will have more or less the same feature of our face. One good example is your twin, you have exact face profile but not fingerprint. I've seen a Youtube video that shows her son was able to unlock her phone using Face ID because her son's face looks like a younger male version of her face. With the number the ad provided, 1 in 1 million in Face ID and 1 in 50k in Touch ID, does this mean that Apple provided a better texture mapping in Face ID than in Touch ID even though fingerprint is much more reliable in real world application when it comes to security? I'm curious how did they come up with that number anyway.
My concern here is that the ad is somewhat misleading when it comes to security between the two features.
My subjective view on this is, Apple needs to entice consumer to upgrade to their Face ID phones to the extent that they are willing to advertise their product with misleading information just to hit their quota or their expected income specially that I see reports now and then that they are not selling iPhones as they expected.
I don't have a Face ID phone, does it really work the way it was advertised? I mean that distance is at least 3 feet if I'm not wrong and he was able to unlock it. Sounds cool to me.
According to people on here you’re too lazy because you’re using your phone lying down.
I love faceid most the time it’s just annoying when you’re lounging around and try to unlock your phone. You have to have the phone perfectly straight. After two years of this with the x and xsmax I do miss Touch ID. Especially using your phone on a table. You never had to pick up the phone before and angle it to unlock it. I have to put in my passcode numerous times a day because of those reasons. With Touch ID before it was much more consistent. Rarely had to put in my passcode.
Hopefully Apples patent comes to light in the next few years and under screen cameras turn out to be a thing. Having both would be great. I’m not sure how lcd technology would work with under screen cameras id imagine it’s easier with OLED as each pixel could be individually controlled(each pixel is own backlight basically).
Right, but people have different use cases. With my use cases, it doesn't just get out of the way. It's more in the way than Touch ID ever was.
I kinda went the opposite direction you went. I didn't expect to miss Touch ID and I thought Face ID would be really cool, but it hasn't lived up to my expectations and introduced some awkward usability concessions that were needed to restore functionality lost in the home button.
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I don't know how much more secure FaceID is, but I feel this is nothing short of a rhetorical selling point for Apple. Just like the Watch and its EKG, I feel FaceID is on that same level. Some people will say EKG is life saving, but it's pretty useless for most of its population. Thanks to Apple's marketing team, people believe otherwise though.
The answer is it depends.
For me, it works decent when I look perpendicularly at it. If I am laying sideways, looking at an angle, or laying it flat on the table, forget about it.
For those people that have small use cases as the former where for some reason they are always looking at it perpendicular, they probably flourish the most. For those of us where we want it to be part of our everyday life (and not because we're using it wrong), I'd argue that it doesn't work as advertised. I usually have to intentionally force it to open. About 15% of the time is with a PIN.