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hugodrax

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Jul 15, 2007
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This is why when I got my new mac I just let it do its thing, not tempt fate. I was surprised when right away 11.01 update available. I dont get why do power users want to do this when the machine comes ready out of the factory.
 

kazmac

macrumors G4
Mar 24, 2010
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Any place but here or there....
Glad these instructions exist, sadly my M1 MBA is going back due to hardware issues. Did not restore the machine only erased the drive as per Apple Tech support instructions.

Not sure what I am going to do about a machine, but at least folks can do a restore with these instructions.
 

Darmok N Jalad

macrumors 603
Sep 26, 2017
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Tanagra (not really)
It's usually good practice to create a bootable installer and have it stowed away, especially when you start doing OS installations. I would think that the type of user that is particular about clean installs would be doing this already.
 
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PsykX

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Sep 16, 2006
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I had this bug yesterday with 11.0.1.
I made sure I was up to date, because I knew there was a bug.
Had to use Apple Configurator 2 from the Mac App Store with another Mac and a USB-A to USB-C cable, did the process twice, and it finally worked. I almost thought it was bricked!

When it finally works, it's an awesome computer though.
 
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foodandart

macrumors newbie
Jul 9, 2018
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I have owned a ton of Macs, this new air is by far the best computer that I have ever owned. I might return it though and get a 16gb model just so I can future proof it a bit now that I know how great it is. Too bad the upgrade costs so much or I would have just ordered the 16gb from the start
Don't you remember when you could just buy a few new memory sticks and future-proof your computer yourself?

And they say progress is always better.. yup
 

m2m2k

macrumors regular
Oct 7, 2020
107
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Big Sur is a whole new level of Apple delivering Crap (Crapple ?).

I spend 3 hours remote helping (lockdown, can't travel, blabla) my dad who upgraded (he didn't tell me - otherwise I would have warned him) a 2020 MBP 13" top of the line model. Appears that with USB-C devices attached, the login process is getting weired commands over USB-C interpreting this as keyboard inputs, so consequently he couldn't login (Cursor also was jumpy as hell). After resetting his password via AppleID recovery (which isn't influenced by attached devices) it still didn't work, so I finally suggested him to unplug all devices and voila it worked.

He never had these issues before so it definitly is a USB driver issue in Big Sure. Writing this to warn people and or for people to try that in case they have simlar login issues.

at Apple: WTF ?
 
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Somesayimhandsome

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Apr 2, 2017
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It's usually good practice to create a bootable installer and have it stowed away, especially when you start doing OS installations. I would think that the type of user that is particular about clean installs would be doing this already.
Did this always but apparently it didn’t matter error still existed for me on 11.01 I think it’s the way the new partitions are setup since it’s no longer traditional like intel macs. Once initiated full wipe via find my iPhone problem is cleared. We don’t have access to hard drive via terminal like traditional intel macs. It seems like it’s protected from fully wiping via terminal command
 

macbookfan

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Jun 17, 2008
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Big Sur is a whole new level of Apple delivering Crap (Crapple ?).

I spend 3 hours remote helping (lockdown, can't travel, blabla) my dad who upgraded (he didn't tell me - otherwise I would have warned him) a 2020 MBP 13" top of the line model. Appears that with USB-C devices attached, the login process is getting weired commands over USB-C interpreting this as keyboard inputs, so consequently he couldn't login (Cursor also was jumpy as hell). After resetting his password via AppleID recovery (which isn't influenced by attached devices) it still didn't work, so I finally suggested him to unplug all devices and voila it worked.

He never had these issues before so it definitly is a USB driver issue in Big Sure. Writing this to warn people and or for people to try that.

@Apple: WTF ?
Sounds like your dummy dad had a external keyboard plugged in with a book etc resting on it to me. Lol
 

kycophpd

macrumors 6502a
Jun 7, 2009
902
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Louisville, Kentucky
It takes 'courage' to make a move like this Apple! This whole Big Sur debacle is not a good look. So old machines and new machines are the ones with the problems? Thank goodness for my middle aged Mac's!!
 
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Dimwhit

macrumors 68020
Apr 10, 2007
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Well this is why I haven't been able to install Big Sur on my external drive. I get almost that exact error. Hopefully they fix it next update so I can do it, but it's not worth worrying about now.
 
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BeatCrazy

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Jul 20, 2011
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i like doing clean installs. espcially major OS versions. i never seem to have all the issues of people who "upgrade" its like rolling fresh paint over a surface with saw dust all over it :p but this is just me.

This scenario is more like:

You had a brand new house built, and a room that was professionally painted in that new house. Although the paint was perfect, you came in "just because" and decided it needed another coat, and are mad because the existing coat wasn't prepped for you slopping another coat on it and it came out looking terrible.

Definitely the builder's fault.
 

m2m2k

macrumors regular
Oct 7, 2020
107
129
Sounds like your dummy dad had a external keyboard plugged in with a book etc resting on it to me. Lol
Good guess, but no. This was my 1st suggestion. And I used Facetime to confirm.
Plus as written this strange behaviour didn't happen in the password recovery with AppleID (which would be similar in case of a book, arm, whatever resting on the keyboard).
 
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pcmike

macrumors 6502
Jun 17, 2007
491
330
Lake Worth, FL
I had this bug yesterday with 11.0.1.
I made sure I was up to date, because I knew there was a bug.
Had to use Apple Configurator 2 from the Mac App Store with another Mac and a USB-A to USB-C cable, did the process twice, and it finally worked. I almost thought it was bricked!

When it finally works, it's an awesome computer though.
Same here, this bug exists on 11.0.1. I made sure to update right after taking the computer out of the box. However, an hour later I ran into a situation where it just made more sense to wipe the thing and start fresh and I figured since I had updated I shouldn't run into this issue... wrong. Luckily I bought two M1 MBAs at the same time, so I quickly restored using Apple Configurator 2 from the second one via the included USB-C-to-USB-C charge cable in less than 15mins. Didn't have any issue getting into DFU mode, the whole restore worked perfectly on the first try.
 

HiRez

macrumors 603
Jan 6, 2004
6,250
2,576
Western US
Everyone always says avoid first version Apple hardware, but I've had great luck with that, it's the software that really bites you. They have a terrible track record with the first major version of new software, especially the OS. And I've been bitten by it in the past, these days I always wait until at least the point-two update of a new OS, usually they have most of the major bugs fixed by then. Unfortunately, I just ordered a new MacBook Air which will have 11.0 installed on it, hopefully at least 11.1 will be available by the time I get it in early December.
 

PickUrPoison

macrumors G3
Sep 12, 2017
8,131
10,720
Sunnyvale, CA
Don't you remember when you could just buy a few new memory sticks and future-proof your computer yourself?

And they say progress is always better.. yup
LP memory can’t be socketed, it must be soldered. No matter who uses it—Apple, Samsung, whoever. LPDDR4/4X/5 simply aren’t socketable.

In any case, I suppose it all depends on how you define progress. Or better.
 

chabig

macrumors G4
Sep 6, 2002
11,252
8,938
Since the terminal instructions actually rely on downloading an updated package from Apple, they could have simplified the procedure and just direct users to download and execute a script, which could also handle the volume name identification more graciously.
You could probably download something using Safari while booted to Recovery. But you'd still have to launch it using Terminal, since the Finder isn't running in Recovery. If it worked, it might be slightly easier than what Apple has posted. Then again, copying and pasting to Terminal isn't that hard either.
 

PickUrPoison

macrumors G3
Sep 12, 2017
8,131
10,720
Sunnyvale, CA
i like doing clean installs. espcially major OS versions. i never seem to have all the issues of people who "upgrade" its like rolling fresh paint over a surface with saw dust all over it :p but this is just me.
I agree in general, but I wouldn’t do it on a .0 release of an OS when you’re talking about a brand new machine that can run no other version.

What’s on that shipped disk is what’s been tested; I personally wouldn’t start clean installs until maybe the .2 OS release. I’d upgrade through the 11.0.x updates as well as all the 11.1 updates. When 11.2.1 comes around, that’s seems about right for a clean install.

(All of that would apply even if there were no architecture switch involved.)
 
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