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My wife has the iPhone 14 Pro Max and at home never asked for MagSafe. She just uses Lightning. Yes she knows what MagSafe is. I put a MagSafe charger in the car for her and while she does use it now, the phone just sits on the passenger seat or in the cup holder in the center console. The MagSafe adapter is not mounted anywhere, because she just doesn’t care. She’d be perfectly happy to plug the phone in if I had left her lightning cable there.
That is cruel and unusual punishment. Just give her the lightning cable back and enjoy the results. Hopefully on a Saturday when the kids are in bed.
 
So wait… it still supports Qi1 right? The teardown mentions there is a wireless charging coil just no MagSafe magnets.
 
it’s still a stupid decision and saved them what, a nickel per unit? Apple is in a new Spindler era and needs new leadership.
Here in Australia the 1c and 2c coins were abandoned long ago - the smallest coin now is 5c. Most small products accordingly are now priced with $x.95 at the end, rather than $x.99.

I read a while ago about a particular Australian online store that still prices products at $x.99, because based on volume of sales, that extra $0.04 adds up to a lot.

I realise when you say a nickel per unit, you are probably speaking metaphorically... But seriously - big business think about these things.

As for the actual cost difference in adding magsafe - overall it would not be a huge additional cost, but you can rest assured that Apple would not wear that cost - they would pass it on to the consumer, and if they had a price point in mind for the "e" phone, and the Magsafe as in the way of that price point - it's an easy thing to exclude.
 
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People in the target market typically plug their phones in to charge? Jee, I dunnoooo… maybe it’s because that’s the best available option on the phones they have? For the past 8 years? Maybe?

Eta: Lightning is superior to USB-C in terms of overall plug experience. Downgrading to USB-C without bumping up to magsafe is a ****slap.
 
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Here’s a hot take, but I don’t see it as a big deal that a device that’s $200 cheaper lacks a feature. Whoa, crazy, I know.

Anyway, this is nothing new across the industry. Hell, OnePlus’s budget 12R phone lacks wireless charging altogether.

The number of entitled and deeply offended responses to this phone has been off the charts. It's a device, people.
 
The obvious reason is cost. Apple will be saving money on this. But that will never be admitted.
 
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I just don’t think it’s reasonable, in principal for Apple to be charging so much for a phone that is missing something which Apple have made standard across every new phone they’ve launched since the iPhone 14.

I see what you did there. While that's true, MagSafe launched with the iPhone 12 series, not the 14. Perhaps the reason you didn't mention the 12 or 13 phones was that six months prior to the 14, Apple released the 3rd-Gen SE. Which also is a phone that has been released since MagSafe has been available, but Apple didn't add it to their least expensive phone then either.
 
So wait… it still supports Qi1 right? The teardown mentions there is a wireless charging coil just no MagSafe magnets.
Yes, it does have wireless charging so it's even more funny reading all the outrage. You can literally solve this lack of Magsafe "problem" by buying $0.50 magnetic ring sticker or buying $10 Magsafe case.

Terrible choice, HOWEVER...it should be noted that all you need to do is put it in a MagSafe case, which 99% would be doing anyway, and MagSafe is magically back.
You're speaking to much sense! 😁
 
I see what you did there. While that's true, MagSafe launched with the iPhone 12 series, not the 14. Perhaps the reason you didn't mention the 12 or 13 phones was that six months prior to the 14, Apple released the 3rd-Gen SE. Which also is a phone that has been released since MagSafe has been available, but Apple didn't add it to their least expensive phone then either.
Yes I did that on purpose because if I said “every new iPhone since the 12 in 2020” people would have come straight back with the SE 3rd gen.

Whilst the 16E is their “least expensive phone” it’s nowhere near a budget phone. I almost give the SE 3rd gen a pass since it was cheaper, based on a design that never came with MagSafe and at that stage it wasn’t standard across the range.

That being said the SE 3rd gen was definitely relatively poor value anyway.
 
We're living in the religion of tech cycle. It's insane how emotional about a product people nowadays can be.
It’s also amazing how the people will twist themselves into absolute knots to defend Apple.

I guess there are way more shareholders whose sole care is profit margins, even if it comes at the expensive of user experience.
 
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It’s also amazing how the people will twist themselves into absolute knots to defend Apple.
It's true for almost all tech companies. You'd be surprised how many people defended Samsung and their copycat Apple product designs like the AWU and AirPods.
Equal amounts of lovers and haters so deeply emotional.

Whilst the 16E is their “least expensive phone” it’s nowhere near a budget phone.
It's still a budget iPhone, no matter how you slice it. SE 3rd gen was only around $100 cheaper when you were to upgrade it to 128GB which is imo bare minimum in 2025.
 
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because "most people in the iPhone 16e's target audience exclusively charge their phones by plugging them into a charging cable."
Please stop talking BS Apple. Also the new Qi2 standard incorporates MagSafe like functionality. And it isn‘t only for charging. It is nice to attach thing to your phone or to keep your phone in place, e.g. in a car.

It is just about bean counting 🫘 But it makes the product less attractive compared to Android phones
 
MagSafe is functionally useless if you have a case because it’s such a weak magnet. Really not that big a deal that it is missing here but to “make a more affordable device”.

how much can MagSafe possibly cost $1 max surely?
 
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Maybe Apple removed the MagSafe so it’ll be the focus of discussion :)

But except for new interesting C1, the 16E is all I’ve never wanted.
And I’ve been a SE user since 2017…

I loved the small form factor, I would actually wouldn’t care if they’ve used a Mini 13/12 body instead of 14 like body.

But let’s face it, I’m not sure who Apple think or thought the target audience for the SE are but…
- They do try to be within the Apple ecosystem.
- They love small devices first.
- Some did like the TouchID (I really miss it, upgraded to 16 and hate Apple Pay with FaceID!)
- They’re budget concise.

So now we have a crippled iPhone 16 but worse, the price difference doesn’t justify it.
It feels as marketing decisions made one bad decision after another.
They decided to make a crippled iPhone 16 but then understood that too cheap price would cannibalize the 16 sales so they’ve priced it closer to it.

If they’ve made the exact same device in 13mini form factor I’m pretty sure it’ll be selling much more…
 
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It's still a budget iPhone, no matter how you slice it. SE 3rd gen was only around $100 cheaper when you were to upgrade it to 128GB which is imo bare minimum in 2025.

It's not a 'budget' phone in any shape or form. It's 300 AUD more than the SE 3rd gen was, which was already pretty expensive for a budget phone. When a Google Pixel 8a is over $300 cheaper, has a dual camera setup, higher refresh etc - that would be a 'budget' phone.
 
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