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Apple Provides Reason for iPhone 16e's Lack of MagSafe

darthbane2k said:
So Apple electively chose to freeze 16E users from their very lucrative accessory market? I dont buy it.

I would retort with a counter argument that the iPhone 16e's target audience wouldn't give a damn about an OLED screen or Satellite Calling.
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They wouldn't, but there's a difference.

Removing MagSafe saves space which can be used for something else.
Removing MagSafe reduces weight.
Satellite services comes free with C1 chip which is needed anyway.
Having satellite services allows Apple to broadly test these feature on their new C1 ship in the wild.
OLED screen doesn't increase space compared to older technologies.
The productions how high quality IPS screen has probably winded down considerably making it possible that it wouldn't be cheaper for Apple to use them instead of OLED.
 
Sheepish-Lord said:
Blame the customer…nice. How the hell do you know the “market” aka poor people, don’t use magsafe chargers?
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Apple collects statistics from each phone. You have probably just said yes/no to Apple asking for this when setting up a new phone without reading it carefully.
 
stev01 said:
To make you pay more for the better phones they make sure the cheap phones have undesirable features. But they should not take their customers for idiots by providing such a stupid explanation.
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It's not a stupid explanation. Will a lack of these features stop the target audience from buying? If no, these feature may be omitted unless they can benefit Apple in other ways.

Removing MagSafe saves space which can be used for a bigger battery.

I have never used wireless charging on my iPhone and MagSafe or not isn't part of the consideration at all.
 
DesertNomad said:
I agree. The deal breaker for me is no SIM slot. I have a physical SIM from Europe that I need to keep active for banking and there is no easy way to convert it to an eSIM.
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Buy your phones outside the US. They still have a SIM tray in Australia, UK and others I checked even Canada.
 
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oldmacs said:
So we’re not allowed to be annoyed generally that Apple is leaving features off what is priced as a premium phone.
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No, your only choice is to buy or not buy.

You're disrespecting the Freedom of Production, a holy right of manufacturers to create and produce the products they want.
 
CarAnalogy said:
Of course people coming from an SE didn't use MagSafe. They didn't have it. Still makes it reasonable for a $600 phone in 2025 to have it.

MagSafe is still one of the main (increasingly very few) notable advantages that Android users envy.

The new Samsung phone came out with something almost exactly like this, and even in Android-land they criticized it.
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Basically a large majority of phones in 2025 comes without MagSafe (or similar) support.
 
oldmacs said:
So we’re not allowed to be annoyed generally that Apple is leaving features off what is priced as a premium phone.

Many of us who help friends and family purchase ‘budget’ Apple devices find it ridiculous that such an expensive phone is missing a feature which has been around for 5 years and should be standard across the range by now.
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Apple is producing a product with the specs they want.

With all of the help I hear people giving, I’m amazed people can go out and buy cars, which are more expensive, have more confusing options, require negotiating skills and have a huge liability associated with them.
 
foobarbaz said:
Nobody is using MagSafe in our cheap phones, that's why we're not adding MagSafe to our cheap phones.

Reverse causality much?
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The cheap iPhones have supported wireless charging since iPhone 8. So the users of iPhone SE 2 almost exclusively used wired charging even though the phone supported wireless charging.
 
0423MAC said:
The mental gymnastics some of you on this forum perform on a regular basis is stunning to me.

MagSafe not being included is just a test by apple to see how much they can cut to give people even more reasons to want to upgrade to their most expensive offerings.
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Apple knows their customers. The iPhone SE 2 didn't support MagSafe either. And according to Apple, they used wired charing almost exclusively even though wireless charging was supported on the phone.

It's very clear evidence that these customers don't really make wireless charging, and by extension, MagSafe an important feature when deciding which phone to buy.

They will not pay $200 more to get a feature they don't need or want.
 
flogician said:
"They don't use it because it's not available, so we're not going to make it available."

Don't get me wrong, I love Apple's engineers, but I loathe their MBAs with their thinly veiled contempt for their customers.
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Wireless charing is available on the iPhone SE 2.

Apple sees that most use cases for MagSafe is wireless charging.
 
I have a 16 Pro, and I have never used MagSafe. Won't go as far as to say it's useless, because I'm sure for some people, it's great, but I don't ever plan to use it.
 
I wish all iPhones had a non-magsafe option. It's a feature I pay for and will never use because of the type of case I like on my phones.
Until they make a version that can charge from the screen side, wireless charging is a no go for me.
 
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Do a survey on who uses mag safe! I’ve never seen anyone use it in public or at the office or at friends houses
 
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If they us as the main metric for any new feature, that the target audience, ie the people who don't have that feature don't already use that feature, then we won't have any new features anymore.
 
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TVreporter said:
Apple continuously sends out surveys to existing products owners. I get them now and then and occasionally respond.

My wife and I don’t use MagSafe … I just charge my 15 with the regular USBC

Sorry 16E owners, we are to blame for your MagSafe woes!!
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I’ve purchased some semblance of an Apple product every 1-2yrs since the iPhone 5c and have never received a survey. Not saying it doesn’t happen but…
 
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tubular said:
Sometimes this place starts to sound like a Porsche forum talking about Hondas, just absolutely unable to understand why everybody doesn't buy a Porsche, and convinced that everyone who *doesn't* buy a Porsche is either an ignoramus or silently weeping bitter tears about not having done so.
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I want a Honda but not at the Porsche price!
 
emmab2006 said:
Margins ? No.. The Poorer side of our target market cant afford magsafe. so lets price them out of a key feature the iphone has had for years.
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I buy only Pro Max versions and have zero interest in MagSafe or wireless charging in general.
 
I7guy said:
Apple is producing a product with the specs they want.

With all of the help I hear people giving, I’m amazed people can go out and buy cars, which are more expensive, have more confusing options, require negotiating skills and have a huge liability associated with them.
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I didn't say otherwise, they are obviously producing a product with the specs they want.

I do however think that the price and specs they want is a rip off and again, a representation of Apple's continued push away from user experience first to their sole focus seemingly being the continual increase of their profit margins.
 
After selling more than 2.3 Billion iPhones over the years, Apple certainly knows their market far better than tech forum pundits.

Speaking only for myself, I have no use for MagSafe (even though my iPhone has it). I suspect many other iPhone owners feel the same.
 
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