You'd think they just make it a national holiday except the pole workers would take off of work as well.
Are you referring to exotic pole dancers? Or electric utility pole linemen? I agree both should get time off to go to the polls to vote.
You'd think they just make it a national holiday except the pole workers would take off of work as well.
Is this not a law for all employers? Pretty sure it is here in Canada.
Morally speaking, I agree. Legally speaking, employers don’t have to pay employees to take time to vote. They are only obligated to allow the time off.
"For retail team members and hourly workers across the company, if you're scheduled to work this Election Day, we'll be providing up to four hours of paid time off if you need it to get to the polls,"
That's true. It's only one day every 4 years. If it helps improve voter turnout, businesses should be closed for the day.
I’m quite aware that some states have some type of early voting. So screw the citizens of the states that don’t? And even among states that do, some make you jump through certain hoops to qualify for it. Do your own research.This is a false dilemma. Voters can participate in early voting. Those early voting facilities can have sanitization and isolation measures in place.
Your fallacy is presuming that early voting implies "hav[ing] to wait several hours in line." Can you make a logical argument?
From the Ballotpedia:
The list includes California.
Did you look before asking your question?
True. That’s what makes this a particularly cool move.Morally speaking, I agree. Legally speaking, employers don’t have to pay employees to take time to vote. They are only obligated to allow the time off.
Watch retail staffing being suspiciously light on election day.
Federal elections are every other year. State and local elections are pretty much every year, and it's not unheard of to have two in a year.
I meant presidential elections specifically.
The election is always on November 4th. By law, all employees have to allow you to take time off to vote.
It is not against the Constitution.Against the Constitution. Separation of powers and equal footing.
That's true. It's only one day every 4 years. If it helps improve voter turnout, businesses should be closed for the day.
Against the Constitution. Separation of powers and equal footing.
False! National and state elections in the U.S. are EVERY TWO YEARS, an important fact that many apathetic American citizens seem to forget.
You'd think they just make it a national holiday except the pole workers would take off of work as well.
As I said, make them all holidays.
Yeah, no. Voting without a paper trail is a really really terrible idea. Vote by mail works well, has a long history of working well, and leaves a proper paper trail.
Wow in Canada it is a given, paid time off. I guess that's one of the reasons we in Canada are described as a full democracy, while the USA is a flawed democracy. This might explain where the USA is now.
No it's not. We have many options of voting, including mail-in voting, available. These must be applied for in advance. Because voting is compulsory (a fine applies if you don't vote, but it's small and in practice they usually send a sternly-worded letter and no fine), the governments are always under pressure to make it as convenient as possible.Friday-Sunday is problematic from a religion standpoint.
That would seriously have to be the dumbest reason not to have it on a Saturday. Firstly, election staff are public servants. This is probably the only time for them to make any overtime wages at all. Secondly, no-one cares about reporters or pollsters. If their bosses want them to work, they work. Simples.Also, people working on weekends have to be paid more, which doesn't affect just the election staff but people like reporters and pollsters.
Yes so true, always room for big improvement.Now I will defend Canada as an amazing country, arguably the best in the world, any day of the week, but it's not like our system doesn't have its flaws too!
If you’re that un-happy then move to Canada.
Canada Elections Act
Part 9 - Voting
Time to Employees for Voting
Consecutive hours for voting
132 (1) Every employee who is an elector is entitled, during voting hours on polling day, to have three consecutive hours for the purpose of casting his or her vote and, if his or her hours of work do not allow for those three consecutive hours, his or her employer shall allow the time for voting that is necessary to provide those three consecutive hours.
Time at convenience of employer
(2) The time that the employer shall allow for voting under subsection (1) is at the convenience of the employer.
Transportation companies
(3) This section and section 133 do not apply to an employee of a company that transports goods or passengers by land, air or water who is employed outside his or her polling division in the operation of a means of transportation, if the additional time referred to in subsection (1) cannot be allowed without interfering with the transportation service.
No penalty for absence from work to vote
133 (1) No employer may make a deduction from the pay of an employee, or impose a penalty, for the time that the employer shall allow for voting under subsection 132(1).
Hourly, piece-work or other basis of employment
(2) An employer who pays an employee less than the amount that the employee would have earned on polling day, had the employee continued to work during the time referred to in subsection 132(2) that the employer allowed for voting, is deemed to have made a deduction from the pay of the employee, regardless of the basis on which the employee is paid.
Prohibition
134 No employer shall, by intimidation, undue influence or by any other means, interfere with the granting to an elector in their employ of the three consecutive hours for voting, as provided for in section 132.
Apparently not.The election is always on November 4th. By law, all employees have to allow you to take time off to vote.
No it's not. We have many options of voting, including mail-in voting, available. These must be applied for in advance. Because voting is compulsory (a fine applies if you don't vote, but it's small and in practice they usually send a sternly-worded letter and no fine), the governments are always under pressure to make it as convenient as possible.
The proof that this works is that it has worked well and continues to work well.
Pretty cool of Apple. Just asking, so nobody freak out: wouldn’t the average work shift allow for a person to vote either before or after work?