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Apple Publicly Responds to Complaints of Purple Lens Flare on iPhone 5 Photos
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ONE of my shots. Out of about a hundred. The three shots in my post were taken without moving the phone, in close succession, after tapping different areas on the screen to change the exposure.
Don't really need to justify to you what I know is true. I've taken about 1200 pictures in the last month. About half of them have been with my iPhone(s). I know of what I speak.
Digital sensors can exacerbate purple haze from internal camera (not lens) reflections. That is a different issue, slightly, and people get confused by such similarity. Much of this has been fixed by altering the sensors, so you don't here about it, anymore.
Well, we'd have to have more than 15 seconds of fame for some other product before we can find out, wouldn't we?And I'm sure you'll be just as much of an apologist when it concerns a non Apple product, right?
The building on the right is also leaning towards too much purple. And the artifact in the middle top is just strange. Was there some reflection from the left that could have upped the light input on these 2 areas of the buildings? Or maybe a finger too close to the lens, reflecting?
Overall, that just looks like a tiny sensor. Like a phone might have. Oh, NO!!
I pulled out my i4, turned on the flash LED to constant, and moved my finger all around to reflect the light back into the camera, at that range a very high contrast, probably the closest you can get to the sun sitting watching football and surfing the web. I managed to get white, purple, orange, green, and probably several million other colors fringing onscreen. Maybe I should demand a replacement from Apple.
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Seems to happen with only some 4S's - when did you get yours?
I was at the Apple Store to try it out with their ceiling lights. My 3GS and their 4S the pic was fine. I was able to get a purple haze with the iPhone 5.
WORK AROUND:
If you want that effect, the fix with the 5 is to make sure the light source is in the frame (gets rid of the haze) then crop the photo so that the source is at the edge.
It most certainly *did* happen on the previous generation iPhone. Take a look at the image included at the top of the article which started this thread!
(Of course, if you can't read *that*, how are we to expect you'll understand what's *actually* going on here?)
The white flair on two of the photos in this post from page 13 of *this* thread is minor but present. (Just like the purple flair on one of them.)
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You're grasping at straws because you're completely ignoring photographic *proof* posted in this very thread that disproves each of the claims you've made. (Including one that you should have known was wrong before you made it, because the photos that disproved it were at the top of the freaking article.)
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Look at the pictures in *this thread's* starting article. The iPhone 4s, like any camera (especially tiny cell-phone cameras) has this exact same issue. It is *highly* dependent upon the angle of incidence of the light source, and where the light source is in frame (or just outside of frame). A change of angle of just a few degrees will completely clear up the purple flair issue, leaving you with 'normal' white flair.
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THE LENS FLARE IS TERRIBLE!!
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Oh wait this from a video source, I guess the FIA needs to invest in much, much better equipment.
Yep. Look everyone! Purple lens flair from *yet another* non-iPhone source!
The building on the right is definitely too purple. Funny thing is, this pic was taken on the way home from the Apple store after getting a replacement for my previous 5 which had dirt on the inside of the lens. I actually wasn't even aware of the widespread purple issue until I took this pic and some others and went home and googled for "iphone 5 purple". (boy was I in for a surprise)
My finger was definitely clear of the lens. I rotated the phone 180 degrees to see if I could reproduce the effect both ways, and sure enough, it was still there. The odd thing is that if I did tilt the camera up enough to get some of the bright sky, the purple intensity diminished slightly. Counterintuitive but I think it may give more credence to the theory that this is similar to but something slightly different than classic purple fringing.
Aside from this little annoyance, I still think it's a great camera for a phone. And fortunately for the Apple community, you rarely see these criticisms get brushed aside by Apple. I'm quite confident they're taking this issue seriously and that many more R&D dollars will be spent.
Wow, I can't imagine the facepalming in Cupertino when this "problem" arose and people complained.
Anyhow, I think Apple should consider dropping physics entirely from their designs, it's a real biggie of legacy that's keeping Jonny Ive so limited and the products so leashed.
They must understand that in order to be competitive, they must remove physics from their devices, before their competitors do.
flare-free f/0.4 lens with crisp 36MP chip? Hell yeah!
Also, RED quality 8K video capture @ 120fps bundled with 6TB RAIDed internal storage.
iPhone 6 will be just 2.4mm thin and have a 10" screen whilst maintaining a sleek profile to still fit your pocket. How? They dropped physics, their designs don't have to make sense anymore!
Glassed Silver:mac
Anyhow, I think Apple should consider dropping physics entirely from their designs, it's a real biggie of legacy that's keeping Jonny Ive so limited and the products so leashed.
They must understand that in order to be competitive, they must remove physics from their devices, before their competitors do.
flare-free f/0.4 lens with crisp 36MP chip? Hell yeah!
Also, RED quality 8K video capture @ 120fps bundled with 6TB RAIDed internal storage.
iPhone 6 will be just 2.4mm thin and have a 10" screen whilst maintaining a sleek profile to still fit your pocket. How? They dropped physics, their designs don't have to make sense anymore!
Glassed Silver:mac
The 'haze' is caused by a bright light source just *outside* the frame. It's the same issue, but with the camera angled at the opposite end of the narrow 'wedge' where this effect happens.
The saphire 'glass' is artificially created. As a result, it doesn't have the impurities which give naturally occurring sapphire it's color. Therefore it is clear. There are *many* lenses which have a sapphire outer element to reduce scratching. It's nothing new in camera optics. (It may be relatively new, or at least unusual, for cameras this size, though.)
Some have been asking for SLR pics that have annoying purple flare, because SLRs couldn't possibly exhibit this. So...DSLR, with a lens known to have slightly more purple flare than others. I won't bore you with the cost, as if that matters.
For the tree, I managed to get rid of most of it in post. The reddish/purplish area used to be much worse. I didn't bother looking for the original RAW, I'm sure I have it.
Note: I am not a professional. The tree shot really annoyed me, I didn't know how to take that shot and avoid the flare. Maybe if I was a pro I would...
For the tree, I managed to get rid of most of it in post. The reddish/purplish area used to be much worse. I didn't bother looking for the original RAW, I'm sure I have it.
Note: I am not a professional. The tree shot really annoyed me, I didn't know how to take that shot and avoid the flare. Maybe if I was a pro I would...
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Reminds me of this from Back to the Future:
Hello, McFly, Anyone home?
Biff: I can't believe you'd loan me your car without telling me it had a blind spot. I could've been killed!
George McFly: Blind spot? Now, now, Biff, now I never noticed that the car had any blind spot before when I would drive it.
Hello, McFly, Anyone home?
Biff: I can't believe you'd loan me your car without telling me it had a blind spot. I could've been killed!
George McFly: Blind spot? Now, now, Biff, now I never noticed that the car had any blind spot before when I would drive it.
I can't remember the fringing issues, I think that was related to coatings or the sensor interaction I mentioned above. This is straight up flare from off-frame reflections, so that does actually make perfect sense. I think.
Here we go:
http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/Glossary/Optical/chromatic_aberration_01.htm
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And I'm sure you'll be just as much of an apologist when it concerns a non Apple product, right?
When the people complaining about a product are complaining because it *obeys the laws of physics*? Yes.
Heck, people didn't get *this* worked up about the initial batches of XBox 360s, with their RRoD issue, and it *that* case, better than 1 in 3 systems had to be replaced under warranty because they DIED.
This is a situation where the device in question is behaving *exactly* as anyone with even basic knowledge of photography and/or optics would expect.
Don't blame us because you don't fit into either of those categories.
When the people complaining about a product are complaining because it *obeys the laws of physics*? Yes.
Heck, people didn't get *this* worked up about the initial batches of XBox 360s, with their RRoD issue, and it *that* case, better than 1 in 3 systems had to be replaced under warranty because they DIED.
This is a situation where the device in question is behaving *exactly* as anyone with even basic knowledge of photography and/or optics would expect.
Don't blame us because you don't fit into either of those categories.
I'd bet dollars to donuts that I have far more knowledge of photography than you.
In other related news: iPhone users baffled at shattered glass screen when dropped on concrete.
In other news: iPhone 5 user smashes phone with a hammer to prove to a buddy that it's indestructible. He is now preparing to sue Apple for not telling him not to hit it with a hammer before he bought the phone.
You should also check that hammer for scratches from hitting the phone. Go after that manufacturer, too.In other news: iPhone 5 user smashes phone with a hammer to prove to a buddy that it's indestructible. He is now preparing to sue Apple for not telling him not to hit it with a hammer before he bought the phone.
ROFLMAO! So it's Sony's fault that Apple uses their camera? Apple doesn't make anything. It's all contracted out. So Apple is faultless no matter what!
I think what you've done here is create a similar situation as having the sun/light source slightly out of frame. The bright blue sky you speak of is the light source and is likely brighter than anywhere else in your scene because it looks like you are somewhat shaded where you are standing. I've created similar artifacts in a "darkened" room (just lit by indirect sunlight coming in two windows) and positioning a window just out of frame. If you tap different areas of the screen to focus elsewhere you can definitely minimize or even eliminate the effect like another poster noted.
EDIT: You can do it using a TV as the light source as well in a fairly dark room.
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iPhone may be one of the most expensive smart phones. Compared to the top of the line DSLRs with thousands of dollar lens with so many coatings that weigh a ton, it doesn't hold a candle. Have a reasonable expectation out of the puny little lens and sensor. Why would photographers carry those huge cameras, if iPhone takes the same quality pictures?