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Re: My 10.2.8 experience

Originally posted by bmeyer
I installed the 10.2.8 update this morning (and right now, I'm connecting through dialup, so this is no small task)

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PS - on an unrelated note: if you ever want to ruin a perfectly good peanut butter and jelly sandwich, make it with low-carb bread. I have eaten sand that has better flavor and texture. Just thought you should know. :D

Good Morning;
I downloaded both: 10.2.8 Updater, and 10.2.8 Combo Updater. Both downloads are too big for dial-up. My local Apple Store allowed me to download both Updater files from Apple's websites while using the Apple Store's T-1 connection.

An Apple Store technician was curious to see if a customer could do the download and installation all by himself. While I did my thing, the technician helped a customer with a laptop that was having mechanical problems. The customer was also curious about the 10.2.8 updates.

No download problems using the local Apple Store's T-1 connection.

Neither updater is for the G5. 10.2.7 is also found in the newest laptops. Yes, 10.2.8 is for the newest laptops, too.

I used only the 10.2.8 Combo updater:
1. At the Apple Store, my QuickSilver had only the USB Apple Pro Keyboard & Mouse, a VGA monitor and the ethernet cable attached. I brought only the QS, nothing else, to the Apple Store.

I installed the 10.2.8 Combo Updater to update my primary (Master) hard drive. Then I immediately launched Cocktail ($10) and ran all of the Pilot routines: Repair Permissions is one of those routines.

2. At home, I connected everything that I use: two VGA monitors, Griffin USB iMic, VST USB floppy, USB scanner, ethernet printer (Apple IIg) via Belkin switch, Apple Pro keyboard & mouse, and an old LogiTech USB Marble Mouse.

I installed the 10.2.8 Combo Updater on my other (Slave) hard drive that I use for Virtual PC 5 and OS 9.2.2. Then I immediately launched Cocktail ($10) and ran all of the Pilot routines: Repair Permissions is one of those routines.
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Results: Everything works on the first launch, and then works better on the second launch, and then stays better after subsequent computer reboots.
I have clicked on everything to see if it works. Everything seems to have needed a second simple re-launchto make it work better in the new OS. Must have been new pref's being filed. I dunno, but everything is flying today.

I use TinkerTool and Haxies' Xounds, WindowShade X and FruitMenu.
.... darned noises from OS 9 Appearance are louder and more responsive now.

Observation: Is it me, or does 10.2.8 seem faster than 10.2.6 with graphics? An eight page Word document that is heavy with .jpgs opened way too fast. Blink and a half, it's open. WOW !!!

I'm using 1600x1200 on my Philips 17 inch flat screen CRT driven by an ATI Radeon 7000 Mac Edition PCI card that is also driving an old Sony Multiscan 17 inch CRT at 1280x1024.

Maybe something about drawing the graphics has been transferred from the processor to the graphics card? I dunno, but it sure is faster.
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I don't do games.
Safari asked for new permissions with Keychain. Okay. Seems faster too.
123456789 Keypad works.
ABCDEFG: Caps works.
MS Office X documents have the correct icons. I never had AppleWorks.
Dual monitors still in same locations, but I did move them back and forth in the Displays control Pref pane, just to be sure there wasn't a problem.
Home Ethernetwork via Belkin ethernet switch works for filesharing and printing to the ethernet Apple IIg laserwriter from either Mac. The other Mac is a 6500 G3-400.
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Summary: FAST FAST FAST !!!
... it's about time.
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JJ

... And I like my PB&J on non-diet whole grain bread. The round top loaf, not the Sandwich loaf. Store Brand is fine. :D
 
After using my eMac extensively yesterday and this morning, I can say that 10.2.8 definitely didn't cause any real problems on my system. The only issue I had at all was that it didn't detect my USB Bluetooth adapter upon restart, but after unpluging and then pluging it back in again it worked just fine. I've had no ethernet, airport or application/kernel panic errors of any kind.

As for the battery issue, I seriously doubt anyone actually lost any real battery time due to this update, it's just that the reporting by the OS is screwed up initially because of it. My friend had the same problem on her iBook yesterday when it was showing only 1:30 remaining despite being almost fully charged. However, it ran much longer than that (3+ hours before pluging it back in to charge) and the reporting now seems to be much more accurate after it ran for a few hours and calibrated itself better. Hopefully though they'll address that bug if they can as well before they re-release 10.2.8 again.
 
when i installed and restarted, all my icons were messed up, the docs with the different icons still open in the correct app, but the icons were different. i restarted and everything was fine, it was odd.

any one else have this problem?
 
Happy with update

After having horrible problems with 10.2.6. I updated as soon I could to 10.2.8 on my 900, combo iBook. Speed improved, no harddrive clicks, no sleep or power problems... Guess I'm one of the fortunate ones. I'll be curious to see what the update(patch?) looks like so resolve all these issues people seem to be having.
However, still waiting with anticipation for Panther!
 
Re: My 10.2.8 experience

Originally posted by bmeyer

For the record, the only hacks/mods I am running are LaunchBar and TransparentDock (I believe), which is only set to make hidden app icons appear semi-translucent in the Dock.

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Then, as if the Karmic wheel pulled an abrupt about-face, it happened. I clicked on System Preferences in the Dock, and it opened, but it hid Safari. I put down my peanut butter and jelly sandwich. I clicked on Safari, and it came up, but hid System Preferences. I cmd-tabbed back to System Preferences, and it came up, but hid Safari. The sandwich remained uneaten. So it goes.

At this point, I scratched my head and said, "weird," and switched Safari to see if anyone else was having my problem. I clicked the link to the next page, and a download window popped up. Safari wanted to download showthread.php. So it goes.

Having come to this particular crossroads, I quit everything and rebooted. I've been trying to break the machine for the last hour, to no avail. Everything is working great, and bloody fast too. Safari and all the iApps spring to life when opened. Office, despite its bloatiness, opens forthwith. And on and on.

So the moral of this story is: if your machine boots up in the first place, and if you are having weird problems with 10.2.8, try a reboot if you haven't already (although you really should have by now). Things will work out--they always do. Just be glad Apple cared enough to pull this update as quick as they did, and rest assured that some folks in Cupertino will be pulling all-nighters the next few days until this thing is rock-solid.

Good luck kids,

bm

PS - on an unrelated note: if you ever want to ruin a perfectly good peanut butter and jelly sandwich, make it with low-carb bread. I have eaten sand that has better flavor and texture. Just thought you should know. :D

Now, that is interesting. I can't comment on your sandwich, but the thing with automatically hiding applications is something that happened on my machine recently, too. Meaning, I had that before the upgrade to 10.2.8 (which didn't cause any troubles so far).

I also have Launchbar, but I think I saw this before I installed it. Maybe the Option key getting stuck once in a while? No idea.

edit: typo
 
I installed the 10.2.8 update on a Wallstreet (my "guinea pig" for testing things) and the only problem I can see (for now) is that hardware video acceleration is gone. VCD movies used to play smoothly, now they're choppy. Anyone else notice this?
 
Upon further review...

OK. After proudly proclaiming my 1 GHZ eMac was experienceing no problems, I now have them. Safari is regularly crashing on me. Mail and safari have forgotten passwords. Lastly, when I tried to wake the machine up his morning I got a kernal panic, which I've never previously had on this machine. With luck, there will be a fix soon, since I'm planning on selling the little thing next week to pay for a cinema display.

Maybe it's not the 2.8 upgrade, but it's pretty coincidnental.
 
Re: My iBook didn't like 10.2.8

Originally posted by Toppa G's
I had to reinstall OS X.2 on my iBook after I attempted to install the update. My 'Book froze near the end of optimization, and then when I restarted, wouldn't let me log in. :(
All back together now though, and seems to run 10.2.8 OK.

I had the freeze as well (and I didn't see where it froze all I had was a blank screen). Reboot seemed OK but now I have no idea whats in there as my Transparent DocK still WORKS. SSH got updated and I think so did Safari, but I cannot prove it.

I fear a reinstall is in my future as well...
 
OS 10.2.8 Update:

iMac 17 800: No problem encountered.
PM 800 DP: No problem encountered.
PM 1.4 DP: No problem encountered.
PB 12" 867: Battery life (time shown) seemed to be shortened. Actual battery life when measured may be better than before update. I may be wrong...

Am I lucky with the update or what?

pd
 
Originally posted by GigaWire
updated 12 dual 800's and 4 dual gigs at work today, no problems with hanging/booting, or network.

12? Zowee! I thought it was cool having just one of these things!

Did you notice a faster boot up? My machine seems to take less time to detect devices (windmill) and then blasts through the OSX screen about twice as fast.

Its was faster than my WinXP box before, now even more so.
 
No noticeable probs on my DP 867 with a few unsanity haxies. Ran repair permissions before and after and used combo updater. Also ran macjanitor after. My iBook 800 seems to indicate shorter battery life after a full charge but I haven't timed it for real battery life since I rarely use it away from it's regular desk where i plug it in. Overall, no more problematic than any of the other updates.
 
I am going to test some big docs and PDFs tonight to see if the graphics engine really was sped up. Maybe some game benchies too. I have lots of previous data to compare with.

I wonder if some of the speed ups in Panther are present in 2.8...
 
Originally posted by rog
Ran repair permissions before and after and used combo updater. Also ran macjanitor after.

If you have DiskWarrior, you should run that too ;)
 
well I let my battery run down, said I had two hours on the full charge...battery lasted 4hrs. After charging back up, howeve,r it has not recalibrated. It still is off on prediction of how much time is left. I mean yeah it is totally cosmetic and at this point I could careless. I must say 10.2.8 makes my ibook 500mhz scream! I am shocked at how fast apps open.
 
It's interesting that in the text of Apple's retraction the work arounds seem to indicate that the network problem is 10BaseT only. It must be an auto-negiation problem.

I got scared and did the the kext repair on my new 15" 1.25 Powerbook, but my 1ghz iMac at home is updated and running fine.

Both systems connect to 100baseT ports only which may be why I was unaffected.
 
Seeing the same thing on my 1GHz Ti. Kind of annoying although rather pointless. It'd be another thing if it had actually dropped from 4 hours to the 1 hour thirty minutes it now shows me.

Wes

Originally posted by Tom Golden
well I let my battery run down, said I had two hours on the full charge...battery lasted 4hrs. After charging back up, howeve,r it has not recalibrated. It still is off on prediction of how much time is left. I mean yeah it is totally cosmetic and at this point I could careless. I must say 10.2.8 makes my ibook 500mhz scream! I am shocked at how fast apps open.
 
Well, after several reboots, Disk Utility, running at highest and reduced battery power...

I see a definite improvement in speed on reduced power, while on the battery. However, I'm running the run-down check in about 17 minutes, when my battery fully charges. It's funny, because with 10.2.6, my battery charging time would be really screwy, but battery remaining, while screwy itself, was much better than 10.2.3, which my PB shipped with. Now, the charging time is accurate!

No noticeable speed improvement when on highest processor power.

Still waiting for my PB to return to normal...

Still better than Windows...

Still love my PB.

As for Ethernet, I did not get a dropped connection, that was the fault of the PowerBook, but the lost connection came from the main office. :)

Fluid runs MUCH BETTER with 10.2.8. I read some mention about better video graphics drivers...could that be the reason?

Oh yeah! I haven't gotten a kernel panic either today or yesterday! That makes me really happy! I'll wait a week before I'm completely happy with 10.2.8.
 
OS 10.2.8

PB G4 667 MHz 1GB Ram - installing 10.2.8 blocks my firewire external hard drive from LaCie from being seen by my PB so I can't back up!!!
 
Re: OS 10.2.8

Originally posted by rauhda
PB G4 667 MHz 1GB Ram - installing 10.2.8 blocks my firewire external hard drive from LaCie from being seen by my PB so I can't back up!!!

So... There's more than just an ethernet problem?
 
Originally posted by Steamboatwillie
Apple posted this in regards to the problems with the update:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107669


hmmmm. This is the exact model I have and yet I have not experienced any problems.

This is a good excuse to pull the update.

PEOPLE WE ARE MISSING SOMETHING HERE!

I bet there is some sneaky secret stuff in the update that we are not supposed to find out about.
 
My harddrive won't shut up as a result of the update, constantly clicking and such. Are there any repairs I can run? I'm new to OS X.
 
My first problem!

I never had a problem with my Mac until updating to 2.8.
I hope it does not become a problem, but yesterday I went to wake my MDD 867 from sleep and the hard drive started spinning as normal, but I did not get anything on the screen.
And it does not respond to key strokes or the force shutdown by pressing the power button for a few seconds.
I have noticed a speed increase in most things but this worries me, I don't want it to become annoying.
It has happened twice already, anybody have any suggestions?

Thank you
 
Originally posted by beefcake
My harddrive won't shut up as a result of the update, constantly clicking and such. Are there any repairs I can run? I'm new to OS X.

Restart with cmd-s held down, until you're looking at a black screen with white text (looks like DOS, but it's called single user mode). When the screen stops scrolling, you'll see a prompt. At the promt, type:

fsck -y (the space before the -y is essential)

A disk check will begin. Run it as many times as required, until it doesn't report that any repairs have occurred (usually once is enough, but not always). When that's done, type:

reboot

If the problem is directory-related, this should fix it.
 
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