Or Apple will just cancel selling those products in Germany instead of paying Motorola. iPad 3 will be released in couple months and iPhone 4S isn't effected, so it might be cheaper than paying Motorola to cancel sales of those old products.
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Apple Pulls All 3G Devices Except iPhone 4S from German Online Store Following Motorola Patent Win [Updated]
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Or Apple will just cancel selling those products in Germany instead of paying Motorola. iPad 3 will be released in couple months and iPhone 4S isn't effected, so it might be cheaper than paying Motorola to cancel sales of those old products.
...and there's the response by our resident fanboy.
Are you simply unable to comprehend negative facts related to Apple?
How much are Apple paying you? The level of 'pro-Apple' crap you push is astonishing. Have you by any chance read the stuff your fingers are typing?
So you trust the Verge when it agrees with you, and don't when it doesn't?
Ok.
No, I trust facts and the fact is that the case was filled on April 2.011.
And is not my problem if The Verge cites a Mueller's opinion without any thing to back it
Given the ridiculous amount of demand for Apple gear, those that want any of these devices can, and will get them. It's an issue of convenience in this case.
Oh I forgot, Mueller is the horrible anti-everything but Apple-patent lawyer. LOL. Silliness.
Interesting. Might be damned if you do, damned if you don't. With Apple look stronger for paying and selling whatever they want and putting it behind them. Or will they look stronger for saying "F U" and just not sell those products. Either way could be "good/bad" for them.
I think it will also come down to whether or not these violations can come back to kick them in the butt on future products. If they think it can, they will settle to get the licenses. If they think they are free and clear, they might not.
If memory serves me correctly there currently are no US lawsuits from Apple against Samsung.
I expect that Motorola would apply for a pre-emptive injunction against the iPad 3, and is probably already applying for the iPhone 4S to be banned under the same ruling - qualcomm/infineon arguments aside.
Trying to downplay convenience now? Interesting...
I would say that convenience is very important.
I'm able to comprehend the *actual* level of impact. Which is next to nothing.
I'm sorry if the Facts have a pro-Apple bias. Not much I can do about that.
Oh so now convenience isn't important?
I thought the easy purchasing process was one of the reasons why Apple is the number one company in the entire world. Now consumers have to drive to the few Apple stores to buy one. Wouldn't you say there's a level of impact there? Consumers being unable to make impulse one-click purchases?
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Well, if iPhone 4S isn't really effected, that means they may have got around it.
What I don't understand is why they didn't cancel all sales but only online sales so far. Amazon.de sells all Apple products in Germany and is usually couple bucks cheaper than Apple's online store to begin with and the products are still available there.
Oh I forgot, Mueller is the horrible anti-everything but Apple-patent lawyer. LOL. Silliness.
Well, is not my fault that Mueller forgives that Motorola has filled a case in Florida against the iPhone 4S about the same patent (the US equivalent) that has granted the injunction in Germany.
And also is not my fault that Mueller has been proved wrong in a lot of his opinions
Seriously, who are you trying to convince here? I've said it before and I'm sure I'll say it a thousand more times. You've got zero credibility and are seen by most members here as a complete troll.
Face the facts. Having to pull 2/3 iPhone models from your primary retail outlet is not good news.
Since most people dont live anywhere near an Apple store, they rely on the online site, or 3rd party retailers. Loosing one of those two primary locations is a massive issue, not some sort of mild inconvenience.
Motorola seems to be playing its 'sore looser' card. They haven't brought anything useful in the mobile phone arena, and just keep loosing ground.
Their last attempt at a smartphone was a failure.
Now, all they have left to make money is to sue other companies. They could have done that for several years, but waiting until the last minute shows that this is obviously a desperate act.
I just hope Apple buys Motorola and gets over with this.
Their last attempt at a smartphone was a failure.
Now, all they have left to make money is to sue other companies. They could have done that for several years, but waiting until the last minute shows that this is obviously a desperate act.
I just hope Apple buys Motorola and gets over with this.
http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/
And then check reality, I'm tired of posting the same thing time after time. If you want, search it.
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Well, Motorola thinks that is also affected, at least in USA. I can't remember if they filled another case in Germany just for the 4S
Because this case is against on Apple subsidiary, the one that controls the online store.
There is an ongoing case to the other Apple subsidiary
LOL! I don't think you've said anything more ironic then the above. You're constantly asking people to search things for you.
So in closing, you have no proof that Mueller has been "proved wrong many times", right?
Also, can you show me the Miami patent that is the US equivalent of this one? I'm curious.
Moto can't press to get the 4S off the site. The iPhone 4S uses a different baseband-chip than the 3GS, 4 and iPad3G, that is why it is not covered with the injunction. The 4S uses a Qualcomm chip and Qualcomm has cross.licensing agreements with Moto and Apple is covered under those.
The answer is: legal entities. The injunction is not those products can't be sold in Germany, it is Apple Germany can't sell them in Germany. That means products already in the channel can still be sold, but then that's it. Deutsche Telekom already informed their stores, they can only sell 3gs and 4 and iPad3g what is left and no more, but no restrictions for the 4s.
Well, we'll see, but as Apple knows more than we do, I guess they are looking at the bigger picture. They may lose some 3gs an 4 sales in Germany now, but probably that is the better option, than to proceed otherwise. The iPad3 is near and I'm pretty sure they won't have that problem with 3G/LTE version of the iPad3.
100% correct. I understand tje joke you were saying here. And it is funny.
PS. Those who don't get what you say need to re-read what you say then they'll learn something.