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Discussion in 'MacRumors.com News Discussion' started by MacRumors, Dec 12, 2011.
yup seen a few of the $100's
gets their name in the papers...
Hurry, better get ready to pull all image editing/illustration apps like Photoshop, Pixelmator, Illustrator, GraphicConverter, OmniGraffle, Gimp, even programs like Pages, MS Word, & MS Publisher, because anyone with a computer and a reasonable amount of artistic ability can create a fake license.
And this way, we can have the "same apps quality as android users" and have our iPhones start behaving strangely due to no software quality checks. And while we are at it, we also want to have CarrierIQ on our iPhones with no possibilities to disable it
The question is not that it was pulled. The real question here is why did this app actually get put on the App Store in the first place. It should have not passed the entry inspection.
In the olden days we just scratched off our birthdate with a razor blade and typed in a different one. It actually worked in liquor stores in chancier parts of town.
There was an Army post here and the soldiers were always hitch-hiking. We would give them some money for booze and they would buy it and the reward was a ride right to their barracks door, which was way the heck out there.
You could just drive right through the gates in those days, no guards.
or just go here: ...they should be worried about this
That's not the app's fault.
Everyone can create a fake ID in Photoshop. What's next, ban computers and photo editing apps?
Unless that age is 5, I fail to see the difference between countries. Only kids think the ages are horrible. After your age is double all of those age limits, you realize how little the precise timing really mattered at all.
Ok, now that was a pretty good conspiracy theory.
Surprised this was even in the app store in the first place!
the best part is: "[...] and national security."
The senator must feel like he really accomplished something...Must feel good.
i guess you think your the lawyer here or what lol
Sure u can use it for fun.... u can make a james bond badge for instance (you can also buy it in a shop if u don't know)...And let me tell you that the app it self is not illegal until you make a usable id that could be misleading, sold to some one, or used. By your logic no one should sell guns... but they do (yea real ones in real shops if u don't know)... until you load it up and carry it around or use it... theres no law broken
Pick something with a universally negative connotation check....brand that term to whatever you dislike to give the appearance that you're doing your job Oh that's a big CHECK (bonus points if you get the reference)
It's usually socialist or communist first.
It's not even difficult to do so in one of those programs if you know what to do. You can emulate the bad color typical of license photos. A mugshot is as easy as taking one with your camera phone. It's just matching colors and graphics. You might be slightly better off with illustrator for generating vector based graphics.
You should mail him a cookie and a juice box for his accomplishments.
My opinion, exactly. But perhaps, we should be looking into ways to allow this kind of application generally to combat the current successful attempts by Republicans to deny voting rights.
It's because you're dealing with a cult-minded group of people. They are spoon-fed what to think, and think that's the way it should be. Apple is king, if they say no then it must be for your own good.
It's because people aren't responsible for their own actions anymore, and because no one wants to work for what they have.
turrists! NASHNUL SCURITY!
What's with the comparison to guns?
I can load mine up, carry it, and use it, completely legally. I even have a CCW permit that allows me to do all three at any time, and use it when I am threatened with great bodily harm.
Find a different analogy, like, say, downloading software keys. Okay to download, okay to store on your machine, but not okay to use, sell, or distribute.
Same thing with a stolen credit card. Okay to have the numbers (all merchants do when you scan), okay to have everything on the card - not okay to use for a purchase if it's not YOUR information.
Here in my state, their are holograms, clear plastic, barcodes, Secondary photos, fingerprints and watermarks. There is absolutely NO WAY an average person could print this at home.
No, I'm not a lawyer, but if you knew where I worked you would know that I know what I'm talking about.
You should be utterly ashamed at these idiotic hypotheticals and defending the creation of false identification cards, which is in fact a crime in most areas. On second thought, I'm sure you're young enough to not know any difference, but I bet your parents would be ashamed.
The James Bond badge comparison *facepalm* How about you go grow some marijuana "for fun" and see what happens. I swear officer, I was just growing it as decoration in my yard.
The last thing someone would do is print a fake ID from the state they are living in. It's too easy to spot a fake as a bouncer, bartender, or convenience store clerk when you not only inspect the very same licenses every day as a part of your job, but you own one too. What people are doing is printing licenses from another state in a different part of the country where it won't be familiar to the person checking it. A bartender in Maine probably has no idea what security measures (holograms, watermarks, and such) a North Dakota license is supposed to have.
As for the James Bond analogy, it is most certainly a valid one and not a *facepalm*. Perhaps you are unaware of the cosplay community. San Diego Comic Con, New York Comic Con, Dragon*Con, etc... There are very large numbers of people who go to these conventions and dress up as sci-fi, comic, pop culture characters. Many of them put a lot of time, money, and effort into creating screen accurate costumes. If that means creating an accurate James Bond ID, or Clark Kent, or John McClane drivers license to go with their costume, they'll do it. It's not like they're flashing their James Bond license to police in any official way. It is for fun. If I had an iPhone and the app, I most certainly would want to make myself a Clark Kent license. And no, I wouldn't flash it if I got pulled over by police.
1. the guns were probably a bad example but ok... it rhymes with james bond
2. yes there is nothing wrong with a james bond badge... coz its actually NOT usable and you could use it for kinds to play around with or what ever
3. and yea you can grow marijuana if you use it only for your own needs and not sell it or give it away (at least in my country )
You can google and grab better quality templates in two seconds than what this app offered.
All 50 states (unless I missed on) have water marks and other authentication tools on the final ID that would require a pro counterfeiter to copy. Add to that, they all have magnetic strips on the back that can be swiped to electronically verify all the info on the ID's.
I'm sure someone could find a means to make a fake with this app, or any image downloaded off the internet... but the most they can hope for it the guy at the 7-11 doesn't look close and sells them beer. Bars are usually a bit more scrutinizing or have readers. Even chain stores mostly swipe an ID because the register forces them to.
Don't get me wrong... I see all the logic in removing the app, but it's more paranoia that saw this happen... not because it poses any threat as you stated.
Yet Congress and the States do nothing to stop the real forgers who supply licenses and social security cards to illegal aliens. Just go to MacArthur park in LA and for $50 you're set!
Anyone can make a fake ID like this without need of a special app. Simply scan a real driver's license then drop a new photo on it and change some words.