Apple Pulls App for Creating Fake Driver's Licenses Following U.S. Senator's Complaint

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  1. heisenberg123 macrumors 603


    Oct 31, 2010
    Hamilton, Ontario
    yup seen a few of the $100's
  2. mytdave macrumors 6502a

    Oct 29, 2002
    gets their name in the papers...

    Hurry, better get ready to pull all image editing/illustration apps like Photoshop, Pixelmator, Illustrator, GraphicConverter, OmniGraffle, Gimp, even programs like Pages, MS Word, & MS Publisher, because anyone with a computer and a reasonable amount of artistic ability can create a fake license.
  3. Akarin macrumors 6502


    Oct 16, 2011
    Nyon, Switzerland

    And this way, we can have the "same apps quality as android users" and have our iPhones start behaving strangely due to no software quality checks. And while we are at it, we also want to have CarrierIQ on our iPhones with no possibilities to disable it :p
  4. the8thark macrumors 68040


    Apr 18, 2011
    The question is not that it was pulled. The real question here is why did this app actually get put on the App Store in the first place. It should have not passed the entry inspection.
  5. carlgo macrumors 68000

    Dec 29, 2006
    Monterey CA
    In the olden days we just scratched off our birthdate with a razor blade and typed in a different one. It actually worked in liquor stores in chancier parts of town.

    There was an Army post here and the soldiers were always hitch-hiking. We would give them some money for booze and they would buy it and the reward was a ride right to their barracks door, which was way the heck out there.

    You could just drive right through the gates in those days, no guards.
  6. KdParker macrumors 601


    Oct 1, 2010
    or just go here: ...they should be worried about this
  7. hackum macrumors regular

    Dec 1, 2009
    That's not the app's fault.

    Everyone can create a fake ID in Photoshop. What's next, ban computers and photo editing apps?
  8. JAT macrumors 603

    Dec 31, 2001
    Mpls, MN
    Unless that age is 5, I fail to see the difference between countries. Only kids think the ages are horrible. After your age is double all of those age limits, you realize how little the precise timing really mattered at all.
    Ok, now that was a pretty good conspiracy theory.
  9. Sackvillenb macrumors 6502a


    Mar 1, 2011
    Canada! \m/
    Surprised this was even in the app store in the first place!
  10. 2992 macrumors 6502


    Jul 20, 2009
    I'm here. Here! Can't you SEE MEE?!
    the best part is: "[...] and national security." :confused:
  11. Jaasen Jones macrumors member

    Oct 6, 2009
    The senator must feel like he really accomplished something...Must feel good.
  12. newrocket macrumors newbie

    Dec 12, 2011
    i guess you think your the lawyer here or what lol
    Sure u can use it for fun.... u can make a james bond badge for instance (you can also buy it in a shop if u don't know)...And let me tell you that the app it self is not illegal until you make a usable id that could be misleading, sold to some one, or used. By your logic no one should sell guns... but they do (yea real ones in real shops if u don't know)... until you load it up and carry it around or use it... theres no law broken :)
  13. thekev macrumors 604


    Aug 5, 2010
    Pick something with a universally negative connotation check....brand that term to whatever you dislike to give the appearance that you're doing your job Oh that's a big CHECK (bonus points if you get the reference)

    It's usually socialist or communist first.

    It's not even difficult to do so in one of those programs if you know what to do. You can emulate the bad color typical of license photos. A mugshot is as easy as taking one with your camera phone. It's just matching colors and graphics. You might be slightly better off with illustrator for generating vector based graphics.

    You should mail him a cookie and a juice box for his accomplishments.
  14. waldobushman macrumors regular

    Mar 3, 2011

    My opinion, exactly. But perhaps, we should be looking into ways to allow this kind of application generally to combat the current successful attempts by Republicans to deny voting rights.
  15. thetoad30 macrumors regular

    Jun 24, 2010
    It's because you're dealing with a cult-minded group of people. They are spoon-fed what to think, and think that's the way it should be. Apple is king, if they say no then it must be for your own good. :rolleyes:

    It's because people aren't responsible for their own actions anymore, and because no one wants to work for what they have.
  16. omgwut macrumors 6502

    Jul 28, 2006
  17. thetoad30 macrumors regular

    Jun 24, 2010
    What's with the comparison to guns?

    I can load mine up, carry it, and use it, completely legally. I even have a CCW permit that allows me to do all three at any time, and use it when I am threatened with great bodily harm.

    Find a different analogy, like, say, downloading software keys. Okay to download, okay to store on your machine, but not okay to use, sell, or distribute.

    Same thing with a stolen credit card. Okay to have the numbers (all merchants do when you scan), okay to have everything on the card - not okay to use for a purchase if it's not YOUR information.

  18. jordanjclay macrumors newbie

    Jan 7, 2011
    Here in my state, their are holograms, clear plastic, barcodes, Secondary photos, fingerprints and watermarks. There is absolutely NO WAY an average person could print this at home.
  19. ShiftyPig macrumors 6502a

    Aug 24, 2008
    No, I'm not a lawyer, but if you knew where I worked you would know that I know what I'm talking about.

    You should be utterly ashamed at these idiotic hypotheticals and defending the creation of false identification cards, which is in fact a crime in most areas. On second thought, I'm sure you're young enough to not know any difference, but I bet your parents would be ashamed.

    The James Bond badge comparison *facepalm* How about you go grow some marijuana "for fun" and see what happens. I swear officer, I was just growing it as decoration in my yard. :rolleyes:
  20. Kal-EL macrumors member

    Aug 8, 2002
    Upstate NY
    The last thing someone would do is print a fake ID from the state they are living in. It's too easy to spot a fake as a bouncer, bartender, or convenience store clerk when you not only inspect the very same licenses every day as a part of your job, but you own one too. What people are doing is printing licenses from another state in a different part of the country where it won't be familiar to the person checking it. A bartender in Maine probably has no idea what security measures (holograms, watermarks, and such) a North Dakota license is supposed to have.
  21. Kal-EL macrumors member

    Aug 8, 2002
    Upstate NY
    As for the James Bond analogy, it is most certainly a valid one and not a *facepalm*. Perhaps you are unaware of the cosplay community. San Diego Comic Con, New York Comic Con, Dragon*Con, etc... There are very large numbers of people who go to these conventions and dress up as sci-fi, comic, pop culture characters. Many of them put a lot of time, money, and effort into creating screen accurate costumes. If that means creating an accurate James Bond ID, or Clark Kent, or John McClane drivers license to go with their costume, they'll do it. It's not like they're flashing their James Bond license to police in any official way. It is for fun. If I had an iPhone and the app, I most certainly would want to make myself a Clark Kent license. And no, I wouldn't flash it if I got pulled over by police.
  22. newrocket macrumors newbie

    Dec 12, 2011
    1. the guns were probably a bad example but ok... it rhymes with james bond :)
    2. yes there is nothing wrong with a james bond badge... coz its actually NOT usable and you could use it for kinds to play around with or what ever
    3. and yea you can grow marijuana if you use it only for your own needs and not sell it or give it away (at least in my country :) )
  23. MacAddict1978 macrumors 65816

    Jun 21, 2006
    It can't.

    You can google and grab better quality templates in two seconds than what this app offered.

    All 50 states (unless I missed on) have water marks and other authentication tools on the final ID that would require a pro counterfeiter to copy. Add to that, they all have magnetic strips on the back that can be swiped to electronically verify all the info on the ID's.

    I'm sure someone could find a means to make a fake with this app, or any image downloaded off the internet... but the most they can hope for it the guy at the 7-11 doesn't look close and sells them beer. Bars are usually a bit more scrutinizing or have readers. Even chain stores mostly swipe an ID because the register forces them to.

    Don't get me wrong... I see all the logic in removing the app, but it's more paranoia that saw this happen... not because it poses any threat as you stated.
  24. Black Belt macrumors 6502a

    Black Belt

    Jun 15, 2007
    Yet Congress and the States do nothing to stop the real forgers who supply licenses and social security cards to illegal aliens. Just go to MacArthur park in LA and for $50 you're set!
  25. ChrisA macrumors G4

    Jan 5, 2006
    Redondo Beach, California
    Anyone can make a fake ID like this without need of a special app. Simply scan a real driver's license then drop a new photo on it and change some words.

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